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I've decided to begin a collection of covers (hint
) sent by the various branch offices of the NSDAP. It is uncommon but not impossible to find these stamps franking regular mail , a kind of collector taboo frowned upon by the authorities but apparently not outright forbidden since in the Third Reich the last thing one wanted was to run afoul of the authorities--most people knew that anyway. I do have a couple of these covers mailed by Werner Hennig, a Nazi Party and NSKK member who was and later became somewhat notorious for his Third Reich stamp dealings. The SA condemned his usage of the franchise stamps on mixed postage covers from Austria and later Czechoslovakia when that country was swallowed. Apparently nothing came of this printed chastising as he did it again in October of 1938. I may have posted one of these covers here a long time ago.
My goal such as it is will be to find covers from the various offices and branches of the NSDAP. My first real task is to find out how many different departmental offices existed during the Third Reich.
Bruce
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08:33:12pm
VERY nice!!!
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Stampme no doubt knows about the "danger" of Carl Hennig covers, but other members might be interested in the following. I recently corresponded with Richard Flemming of the Channel Islands Specialists' Society about some covers that I suspected were bogus. Here are the covers:
Richard described the covers as philatelic. They were, he said, "…produced in their hundreds by Karl Hennig and Co. whilst working for the Feldpost in Jersey.…German civilians could not use the free Feldpost service but could use it if they applied the correct German postage rate to the postcard/letter (postcards @ 15pf and letters @ 25pf) so, for example, your first item was franked with a 30pf stamp and therefore not used for genuine postal use. There was no need for them to attach Channel Islands stamps (although on occassions soldiers did attach CI stamps).
"The philatelic ones are usually adresses to the same address in Germany e.g. Karl Hennig. The first three items usually sale from £25-40 depending on stamp, etc attached. The two items with the Mit Schnellboot handstamps are philatelic with a capital P as there was never a speedboat mail service within the Islands during the Occupation. There are several of these about in circulation today.… I too have several Karl Hennig items of mail that have appeared in auction bundlesand they are a good talking point. They are still being produced today by one of his relatives from Brazil!!!!"
Bob
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Thanks for posting these. Always interesting to see Hennig covers.
I believe his aged son Werner Hennig (with help but I'm not sure if there is a grandson/daughter now or not) still operates the family business out of the Dominican Republic though, not Brazil.
Apparently Karl Hennig left Germany because of his enormous holding of covers and Nazi postcards from the Third Reich era that were after the war considered contraband that the Allies ordered destroyed. He moved to the Dominican Republic around 1948.
Karl Hennig had stated this his covers were real Third Reich covers. Werner later denied in a philatelic publication the rumors that Hennig covers were produced after the war in the Dominican Republic. I believe it was LINN's Stamp News that decreed that buyers should be aware that with rare exception, Hennig covers were strictly prepared as philatelic items intended as souvenirs of that era. I believe the article stated (but did not put to bed)Hennig had huge stocks of covers made up during the Third Reich years so the notion that covers were still be produced was itself bogus. Some believe, so do not.
Controversy continues to dog these covers. I have seen examples of the covers you posted selling in Europe for about $5 each but I have also seen the same or similar examples of the covers you posted offered at $75 each with the range of prices in between $5 and $75 also noted.
Werner Hennig continues to sell the Third Reich covers on eBay at prices around 15 each, some cheaper, some priced a little more.
Bruce
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Here is a less common express service cover from Berlin NSDAP Foreign Lands Branch Office sent to its equivalent in Munich, franked with three Nazi Party franchise stamps, mailed in 1941. There are two Munich post office receiving marks on the back.
I've decided to begin a collection of covers (hint) sent by the various branch offices of the NSDAP. It is uncommon but not impossible to find these stamps franking regular mail , a kind of collector taboo frowned upon by the authorities but apparently not outright forbidden since in the Third Reich the last thing one wanted was to run afoul of the authorities--most people knew that anyway.
I do have a couple of these covers mailed by Werner Hennig, a Nazi Party and NSKK member who was and later became somewhat notorious for his Third Reich stamp dealings. The SA condemned his usage of the franchise stamps on mixed postage covers from Austria and later Czechoslovakia when that country was swallowed. Apparently nothing came of this printed chastising as he did it again in October of 1938. I may have posted one of these covers here a long time ago.
My goal such as it is will be to find covers from the various offices and branches of the NSDAP. My first real task is to find out how many different departmental offices existed during the Third Reich.
Bruce
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10 Aug 2014
08:33:12pm
re: Nazi Party Covers
VERY nice!!!
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re: Nazi Party Covers
Stampme no doubt knows about the "danger" of Carl Hennig covers, but other members might be interested in the following. I recently corresponded with Richard Flemming of the Channel Islands Specialists' Society about some covers that I suspected were bogus. Here are the covers:
Richard described the covers as philatelic. They were, he said, "…produced in their hundreds by Karl Hennig and Co. whilst working for the Feldpost in Jersey.…German civilians could not use the free Feldpost service but could use it if they applied the correct German postage rate to the postcard/letter (postcards @ 15pf and letters @ 25pf) so, for example, your first item was franked with a 30pf stamp and therefore not used for genuine postal use. There was no need for them to attach Channel Islands stamps (although on occassions soldiers did attach CI stamps).
"The philatelic ones are usually adresses to the same address in Germany e.g. Karl Hennig. The first three items usually sale from £25-40 depending on stamp, etc attached. The two items with the Mit Schnellboot handstamps are philatelic with a capital P as there was never a speedboat mail service within the Islands during the Occupation. There are several of these about in circulation today.… I too have several Karl Hennig items of mail that have appeared in auction bundlesand they are a good talking point. They are still being produced today by one of his relatives from Brazil!!!!"
Bob
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02:58:50pm
re: Nazi Party Covers
Thanks for posting these. Always interesting to see Hennig covers.
I believe his aged son Werner Hennig (with help but I'm not sure if there is a grandson/daughter now or not) still operates the family business out of the Dominican Republic though, not Brazil.
Apparently Karl Hennig left Germany because of his enormous holding of covers and Nazi postcards from the Third Reich era that were after the war considered contraband that the Allies ordered destroyed. He moved to the Dominican Republic around 1948.
Karl Hennig had stated this his covers were real Third Reich covers. Werner later denied in a philatelic publication the rumors that Hennig covers were produced after the war in the Dominican Republic. I believe it was LINN's Stamp News that decreed that buyers should be aware that with rare exception, Hennig covers were strictly prepared as philatelic items intended as souvenirs of that era. I believe the article stated (but did not put to bed)Hennig had huge stocks of covers made up during the Third Reich years so the notion that covers were still be produced was itself bogus. Some believe, so do not.
Controversy continues to dog these covers. I have seen examples of the covers you posted selling in Europe for about $5 each but I have also seen the same or similar examples of the covers you posted offered at $75 each with the range of prices in between $5 and $75 also noted.
Werner Hennig continues to sell the Third Reich covers on eBay at prices around 15 each, some cheaper, some priced a little more.
Bruce
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