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Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Shannon
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Hi Shannon;
I just used google with this search string; "converting Stanley Gibbons numbers to Scott numbers". It looked like several places to go and do this on the first page. I didn't have time to follow this up, so I'll leave the fun for you to discover.
If you want to get full use of the internet, I recommend making Google your home page, it's free and you can also get a free e-mail address there. If you have a gmail.com e-mail address you can store thousands of e-mails for free and they won't delete. gmail and Google have every good technical support, strong firewalls, good spam protection, and good safe security.
You really should learn more about using google, as it is great for almost anything. I list and sell on Delcampe.net, but sometimes buy there too. Many listings are in French as Delcampe is in Brussels, Belgium and native language there is Flemish or French. On the google home page is a drop-down menu "More?", and in there is Google translate. You just type the text or copy-paste from listing, and select the target language and it will translate. It can even pronounce the text passage for you. I learn a lot of French that way.
So go ahead and plunge right in there, it's fun learning new stuff.
Happy exploring
Ken Tall Pines
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"I received a Stanley Gibbons catalog for a country I'm collecting but I use Scott numbers."
Does that mean that you have both Scott and Stanley Gibbons catalog for the country?
Don't think there are any tools to easily convert catalog numbers, as far as I know there are some copyright issues on making such a thing. Catalog numbers can be annoying sometimes. Why can't the big catalog publishers agree on an "universal" numbering on stamps, and if they want have their own number as an addition?
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08:02:35am
"Why can't the big catalog publishers agree on an "universal" numbering on stamps, and if they want have their own number as an addition?"
Because there is no economic benefit to them for them to do so.
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From Michael Rogers store I purchased a Scott/Gibbons conversion book for Hong Kong stamps. I believe they also have Macao and China, but I don't collect those areas so I'm not 100% positive. I have been compiling my own conversion list for all Queen Victoria stamps, but that is going to take a while.
Feel free to email me with a list of Hong Kong stamps to convert from one to the other if you wish. Sorry I can't help with other countries yet.
Peter
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"Why can't the big catalog publishers agree on an "universal" numbering on stamps, and if they want have their own number as an addition?"
"Because there is no economic benefit to them for them to do so."
Not only is there no economic incentive to do so, there is a big disincentive: these catalog numbers are proprietary, and as such can be licensed to other parties. An example of this is the use of Scott numbers in Mystic stamp albums. For years, Mystic resisted using Scott numbers because they didn't want to pay the license fees. A few years ago, Mystic finally started using Scott numbers in their albums, presumably because of customer demand.
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""Why can't the big catalog publishers agree on an "universal" numbering on stamps, and if they want have their own number as an addition?""
There is, of course, the cash value of a proprietary number system. North American collectors are pretty much obliged to use Scott's catalogues, while British collectors are "stuck" with Stanley-Gibbons. But I think there is another good reason: there is no "universal" opinion about what stamps should be included in catalogues, especially since some collectors are novices who care for little but adding countless face-different stamps to their collections, and some are specialists who pay close attention to arcane varieties, EFOs, multiples, specimens, essays, usage, etc. Here are various types of stamps that may or may not be included in various catalogues:
• Several stamps were "in the works" when South Vietnam was overrun by North Vietnamese and Viet Cong troops. Stamps issued by the Viet Cong were not, apparently, ever used as postage, and do not appear in standard catalogues. They are listed in a North Vietnam specialized catalogue that I have.
• Stamps that were issued but not recognized by the UPU (many "former Soviet Republics" have "issued" entirely bogus stamps, which people nevertheless collect)
• Semi-official stamps such as Canada's many semi-official airmail stamps
• Postal savings and war tax stamps
• Overprinted but unauthorized stamps (many "Hitler Head" stamps were overprinted to deface Hitler's face but were intended for use, and no doubt some were used)
• Local issues (German states and many short-lived political entities have issued and used stamps)
• Stamps that were or have been embargoed by various governments (the U.S. has placed or still places embargoes on stamps of Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Syria, and Burma. Those embargoes have been reflected in stamp catalogue listings.)
I recently obtained a Stanley-Gibbons catalogue of aircraft topicals that organizes stamps by country, period, type of aircraft use, aircraft type/name (including model aircraft), and airports. It's complex enough that I'm still working out how to use it. I imagine that most topical catalogues go into similar detail. Most general stamp catalogues have wild inaccuracies in them when it comes to identifying aircraft, but they probably don't have the resources to go into such detail with topical stamps of any sort.
Finally, of course, not all catalogue publishers are knowledgeable about all stamps issued by all countries/political entities/interest groups. The Unitrade specialized catalogue of Canadian stamps is exhaustive in its coverage of almost anything remotely resembling Canadian stamps. It would be unreasonable to expect a Scandinavian, Japanese, or Brazilian catalogue publisher to emulate Unitrade. Just as every stamp collection is unique, the needs of every collector are unique. We just have to spend what money we have on catalogues that best address our individual needs.
Bob
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Bob,
The Vietcong stamps are listed by Gibbons in their standard catalog under the National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam, numbers NLF1 - NLF79.
War tax stamps are generally acknowledged by standard catalogs.
Local issues are a confusing group. Some are listed, but many more are not. Not sure what the criteria are for listing some and not the others.
Scott does list embargoed stamps. It used to not do this, but changed its rule on that. Some embargoed stamps do not include a value in the listings, but most do have catalog values.
Then, while the most of what else you say is true, the catalogs do make some exceptions and list some of the types you have in your list.
And people ask for a universal catalog numbering system? Try universal color definitions as well as listing policies. Of course all this standardization would raise the prices of catalogs ten-fold...
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Is there some way or somewhere on the internet where you can convert Stanley Gibbons numbers to Scott numbers? I received a Stanley Gibbons catalog for a country I'm collecting but I use Scott numbers.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Shannon
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re: Stanley Gibbons to Scott?
Hi Shannon;
I just used google with this search string; "converting Stanley Gibbons numbers to Scott numbers". It looked like several places to go and do this on the first page. I didn't have time to follow this up, so I'll leave the fun for you to discover.
If you want to get full use of the internet, I recommend making Google your home page, it's free and you can also get a free e-mail address there. If you have a gmail.com e-mail address you can store thousands of e-mails for free and they won't delete. gmail and Google have every good technical support, strong firewalls, good spam protection, and good safe security.
You really should learn more about using google, as it is great for almost anything. I list and sell on Delcampe.net, but sometimes buy there too. Many listings are in French as Delcampe is in Brussels, Belgium and native language there is Flemish or French. On the google home page is a drop-down menu "More?", and in there is Google translate. You just type the text or copy-paste from listing, and select the target language and it will translate. It can even pronounce the text passage for you. I learn a lot of French that way.
So go ahead and plunge right in there, it's fun learning new stuff.
Happy exploring
Ken Tall Pines
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re: Stanley Gibbons to Scott?
"I received a Stanley Gibbons catalog for a country I'm collecting but I use Scott numbers."
Does that mean that you have both Scott and Stanley Gibbons catalog for the country?
Don't think there are any tools to easily convert catalog numbers, as far as I know there are some copyright issues on making such a thing. Catalog numbers can be annoying sometimes. Why can't the big catalog publishers agree on an "universal" numbering on stamps, and if they want have their own number as an addition?
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08:02:35am
re: Stanley Gibbons to Scott?
"Why can't the big catalog publishers agree on an "universal" numbering on stamps, and if they want have their own number as an addition?"
Because there is no economic benefit to them for them to do so.
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08:28:12am
re: Stanley Gibbons to Scott?
From Michael Rogers store I purchased a Scott/Gibbons conversion book for Hong Kong stamps. I believe they also have Macao and China, but I don't collect those areas so I'm not 100% positive. I have been compiling my own conversion list for all Queen Victoria stamps, but that is going to take a while.
Feel free to email me with a list of Hong Kong stamps to convert from one to the other if you wish. Sorry I can't help with other countries yet.
Peter
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re: Stanley Gibbons to Scott?
"Why can't the big catalog publishers agree on an "universal" numbering on stamps, and if they want have their own number as an addition?"
"Because there is no economic benefit to them for them to do so."
Not only is there no economic incentive to do so, there is a big disincentive: these catalog numbers are proprietary, and as such can be licensed to other parties. An example of this is the use of Scott numbers in Mystic stamp albums. For years, Mystic resisted using Scott numbers because they didn't want to pay the license fees. A few years ago, Mystic finally started using Scott numbers in their albums, presumably because of customer demand.
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re: Stanley Gibbons to Scott?
""Why can't the big catalog publishers agree on an "universal" numbering on stamps, and if they want have their own number as an addition?""
There is, of course, the cash value of a proprietary number system. North American collectors are pretty much obliged to use Scott's catalogues, while British collectors are "stuck" with Stanley-Gibbons. But I think there is another good reason: there is no "universal" opinion about what stamps should be included in catalogues, especially since some collectors are novices who care for little but adding countless face-different stamps to their collections, and some are specialists who pay close attention to arcane varieties, EFOs, multiples, specimens, essays, usage, etc. Here are various types of stamps that may or may not be included in various catalogues:
• Several stamps were "in the works" when South Vietnam was overrun by North Vietnamese and Viet Cong troops. Stamps issued by the Viet Cong were not, apparently, ever used as postage, and do not appear in standard catalogues. They are listed in a North Vietnam specialized catalogue that I have.
• Stamps that were issued but not recognized by the UPU (many "former Soviet Republics" have "issued" entirely bogus stamps, which people nevertheless collect)
• Semi-official stamps such as Canada's many semi-official airmail stamps
• Postal savings and war tax stamps
• Overprinted but unauthorized stamps (many "Hitler Head" stamps were overprinted to deface Hitler's face but were intended for use, and no doubt some were used)
• Local issues (German states and many short-lived political entities have issued and used stamps)
• Stamps that were or have been embargoed by various governments (the U.S. has placed or still places embargoes on stamps of Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Syria, and Burma. Those embargoes have been reflected in stamp catalogue listings.)
I recently obtained a Stanley-Gibbons catalogue of aircraft topicals that organizes stamps by country, period, type of aircraft use, aircraft type/name (including model aircraft), and airports. It's complex enough that I'm still working out how to use it. I imagine that most topical catalogues go into similar detail. Most general stamp catalogues have wild inaccuracies in them when it comes to identifying aircraft, but they probably don't have the resources to go into such detail with topical stamps of any sort.
Finally, of course, not all catalogue publishers are knowledgeable about all stamps issued by all countries/political entities/interest groups. The Unitrade specialized catalogue of Canadian stamps is exhaustive in its coverage of almost anything remotely resembling Canadian stamps. It would be unreasonable to expect a Scandinavian, Japanese, or Brazilian catalogue publisher to emulate Unitrade. Just as every stamp collection is unique, the needs of every collector are unique. We just have to spend what money we have on catalogues that best address our individual needs.
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re: Stanley Gibbons to Scott?
Bob,
The Vietcong stamps are listed by Gibbons in their standard catalog under the National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam, numbers NLF1 - NLF79.
War tax stamps are generally acknowledged by standard catalogs.
Local issues are a confusing group. Some are listed, but many more are not. Not sure what the criteria are for listing some and not the others.
Scott does list embargoed stamps. It used to not do this, but changed its rule on that. Some embargoed stamps do not include a value in the listings, but most do have catalog values.
Then, while the most of what else you say is true, the catalogs do make some exceptions and list some of the types you have in your list.
And people ask for a universal catalog numbering system? Try universal color definitions as well as listing policies. Of course all this standardization would raise the prices of catalogs ten-fold...
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