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vinman
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04 Jun 2014
03:24:59pm
I am working on finally organizing my cancel collection. Here is a page of paid cancels on Scott #65. I have more paids I need to mount.

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04 Jun 2014
03:34:12pm
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

I have many of those on cover, but the first one in the fourth row is unique. I don't think I have seen that before. Very nice collection. Applause

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04 Jun 2014
03:58:35pm
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

The first one on the last row is from Boston (Paid in circular grid cancel). The ones of a larger font (especially PAID ALL) are likely from New York.

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12 Jun 2014
04:03:04pm
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

Another page of paid cancels.

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vinman
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12 Jun 2014
04:03:48pm
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

And another.

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12 Jun 2014
04:04:40pm
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

Now a page of Scott 26.

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13 Jun 2014
09:17:28am
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

Luckily the screen prevents my drooling from damaging the stamps. David

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13 Jun 2014
10:22:09am
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

Impressive, vinman!Thumbs Up

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13 Jun 2014
10:32:04am
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

Dear Vinman,
Lovely indeed. Your passion comes through-wonderful. Thank you for the sharing.
Dan C.

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13 Jun 2014
12:27:11pm
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I don't know much about earlier US philately, so please excuse my question:

What was the purpose of the "paid" stamped on these stamps? What did it pay? (Not regular letter postage, right, because then wouldn't these stamps bear more customary postmarks and cancels?)

Thanks in advance!

-- Dave

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13 Jun 2014
02:26:29pm
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

Dave, "PAID" is a leftover from earlier times when stamps didn't exist and letters were mostly sent collect, with the recipient expected to foot the bill, unless the letter bore a "PAID" marking indicating prepayment had been made.

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13 Jun 2014
02:42:03pm
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

Eno and Skinner's book on fancy cancels is avalailable as a PDF at the United States Philatelic Classics electronic library page.
http://www.uspcs.org/resource-center/electronic-library/

You might find some of your Paids and numerals in there.

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13 Jun 2014
03:11:32pm
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

But this stamp was issued about 14-15 years after the introduction of stamps on US mail, right? So this practice was just a vestige of those earlier days? (And the post offices still had those "paid" cancels hanging around?) ... This doesn't precede the era of postmarks and other types of cancels, does it?

(Sorry -- I'm not trying to be argumentative. Just trying to understand.)

I'm guessing the #65 is popular because it's the earliest widely-available (i.e., inexpensive) US stamp around?

(I probably shouldn't have stepped into this thread at all.)

-- Dave

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13 Jun 2014
03:30:52pm
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

yes, 65 was issued 14 years after 1 and 2 were issued. Mandatory use wasn't instituted until 1855, so letters could still be sent collect 8 years after the first postage stamp was issued.

i probably should not have replied in such an authoritative voice, as if there were no other possibilities. and i, for one, don't take your search for full answer to be argumentative.


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13 Jun 2014
04:43:12pm
re: Paid cancel on Scott #65

Thanks, David, for the amplification. Very helpful! Thumbs Up

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