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Bobstamp
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27 Apr 2014
01:37:50pm
I have used copies of both the Russian and U.S. William Saroyan commemoratives, on one piece, cancelled with what appear to be first-day cancellations of both countries:

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My question: How is this possible? I suspect that the answer is simple: both U.S. and Russian postal outlets sold, and cancelled, the Saroyan stamps from both countries. I know that Canadian postal outlets — we mostly have privately operated postal "outlets" these days, rather than post offices — sometimes sell stamps of other countries if they are joint issues or somehow complement Canadian stamps. Is that the answer?

Bob

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27 Apr 2014
02:35:00pm
re: Query: U.S. and Russia William Saroyan stamps on one piece

I do not know the actual process, but there have been several joint issues where both stamps (or sets) are on the same envelope and have FDCs from their respective issuing countries. Even though a cancel is "May 22, 1991," it could have been applied, weeks, if not months, after that date. Plenty of time for one country to prepare thousands of envelopes, apply its stamps, cancel them, and shipped the entire batch to the other country for its official cancel. I have a souvenir booklet of the joint issue (USSR/USA) for the mammals of the sea with official FDCs from both countries.

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27 Apr 2014
11:54:32pm
re: Query: U.S. and Russia William Saroyan stamps on one piece

More likely is that the countries will agree on a number of FDC to make for the issue. Then each country would send 1/2 of the needed stamp to the other country to complete the FDC that each will sell.

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10 May 2014
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re: Query: U.S. and Russia William Saroyan stamps on one piece

It´s just some jazz they invented to drag out extra money from our pockets, it´s seen in multiple various forms Thumbs Down
Like this minisheet with stamps from 3 different countries, a collector of stamps from Falkland Islands is here forced to also buy the stamp from Ascension Island and from South Georgia Thumbs Down
At least they have different postmark dates from the different places Thumbs Up
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10 May 2014
01:54:13pm
re: Query: U.S. and Russia William Saroyan stamps on one piece

So, what is wrong with that mini-sheet, PeterG?
I like it.

Why do some stamp collectors criticize stamp-issuing
agencies for marketing? No one compels us to buy
these stamps.

There is a lot of junk on the market and most of it isn't
in the stamp world. I have my hands full worrying about
the stuff I can control.

Beauty is in the eyes of the credit-card holder.

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12 May 2014
01:19:15pm
re: Query: U.S. and Russia William Saroyan stamps on one piece

Beauty is in the eyes of the credit-card holder.

Sure it is and I think it´s a beautiful mini sheet. But still I will tear it up and put the South Georgian stamp into my collection.
My problem with lies in the fact that I had to pay for the 2 other stamps too, and I didn´t need them Big Grin

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27 Apr 2014
01:37:50pm

I have used copies of both the Russian and U.S. William Saroyan commemoratives, on one piece, cancelled with what appear to be first-day cancellations of both countries:

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My question: How is this possible? I suspect that the answer is simple: both U.S. and Russian postal outlets sold, and cancelled, the Saroyan stamps from both countries. I know that Canadian postal outlets — we mostly have privately operated postal "outlets" these days, rather than post offices — sometimes sell stamps of other countries if they are joint issues or somehow complement Canadian stamps. Is that the answer?

Bob

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re: Query: U.S. and Russia William Saroyan stamps on one piece

I do not know the actual process, but there have been several joint issues where both stamps (or sets) are on the same envelope and have FDCs from their respective issuing countries. Even though a cancel is "May 22, 1991," it could have been applied, weeks, if not months, after that date. Plenty of time for one country to prepare thousands of envelopes, apply its stamps, cancel them, and shipped the entire batch to the other country for its official cancel. I have a souvenir booklet of the joint issue (USSR/USA) for the mammals of the sea with official FDCs from both countries.

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27 Apr 2014
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re: Query: U.S. and Russia William Saroyan stamps on one piece

More likely is that the countries will agree on a number of FDC to make for the issue. Then each country would send 1/2 of the needed stamp to the other country to complete the FDC that each will sell.

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10 May 2014
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re: Query: U.S. and Russia William Saroyan stamps on one piece

It´s just some jazz they invented to drag out extra money from our pockets, it´s seen in multiple various forms Thumbs Down
Like this minisheet with stamps from 3 different countries, a collector of stamps from Falkland Islands is here forced to also buy the stamp from Ascension Island and from South Georgia Thumbs Down
At least they have different postmark dates from the different places Thumbs Up
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re: Query: U.S. and Russia William Saroyan stamps on one piece

So, what is wrong with that mini-sheet, PeterG?
I like it.

Why do some stamp collectors criticize stamp-issuing
agencies for marketing? No one compels us to buy
these stamps.

There is a lot of junk on the market and most of it isn't
in the stamp world. I have my hands full worrying about
the stuff I can control.

Beauty is in the eyes of the credit-card holder.

John Derry

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12 May 2014
01:19:15pm

re: Query: U.S. and Russia William Saroyan stamps on one piece

Beauty is in the eyes of the credit-card holder.

Sure it is and I think it´s a beautiful mini sheet. But still I will tear it up and put the South Georgian stamp into my collection.
My problem with lies in the fact that I had to pay for the 2 other stamps too, and I didn´t need them Big Grin

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