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United States/Covers & Postmarks : Unusual FDC - have you ever come across it

 

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mmissinglink

01 Mar 2014
08:24:10pm
I am a novice collector of First Day Covers. I enjoy FDC collecting for several reasons including, but certainly not limited to, the quick education one can get from many of the cachets applied to these covers/envelopes which give additional details about the person, place, or event that is depicted on the stamp.

On occasion, I have also had stamped covers First Day Of Issue serviced myself, sending them in or much less frequently going to a servicing event on that day of issue.

The first high value stamp I ever sent in to be FDOI serviced was the 1983 U.S. $9.35 Express Mail Stamp (Scott 1909). For several years following that, I purchased and had FDOI serviced on my own covers all the Express mail stamps which depicted the American bald eagle. One of the covers that I had FDOI serviced for myself through Stamp Fulfillment Services back in 1991 contains a full sheet of 20 of Scott #2541 $9.95 Eagle & Olympic Rings Express Mail stamp. This image is a single of the stamp not on cover just so you know which stamp issue I am referring to:
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So, here's my question to philatelists here; because I’m trying to learn how many of these full sheets of 20 Express Mail stamps may have been FDOI cancelled, has anyone come across a large FDC with this sheet of stamps? Ever heard of one in existence before?

I also wonder if there is anyone or any authority who may have a good idea about how many full sheets of this stamp may have been cancelled....any ideas from members here?

Any help you can offer me would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.




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michael78651

01 Mar 2014
08:44:32pm
re: Unusual FDC - have you ever come across it

I'm not an authority on this subject, but I would say that due to the high face values of those stamps there probably were not a whole lot of entire sheets canceled. That's alot of money to pay for a sheet!

The Scott US Specialized catalog states the number of stamps from each issue that were reported by the post office to have received first day cancellation service. There will be other stamps from each issue that were privately handled by collectors as well.

Take Scott #3262, the $11.75 piggyback space shuttle issue. Only 3,703 stamps were serviced for first day by the post office. Usually the post office services well over 100,000 stamps for first day covers.

For the stamp you posted, Scott #2541, the number is 65,657. Probably due to the Olympics tie-in. The $14.00 soaring eagle from the same issue, Scott #2542 had 54,727.

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mmissinglink

01 Mar 2014
11:02:56pm
re: Unusual FDC - have you ever come across it

Hi Michael,

Thank you for the informative response. I didn't realize that the Scott Specialized had figures for First Day of Issue servicing. You noted that those figures are for number of "stamps (that) were serviced"....do you know if that's actually what the figures in the book denote or if that number refers to number of covers serviced? It could be a meaningful difference depending on how many multiples on cover were serviced... especially if those multiples were blocks or maybe even sheets of stamps.

And yes, it was a lot of money I paid for a sheet of stamps back 22+ years ago. I recall back then that there was some excitement with FDCs that had the entire booklet strips of three Express Mail stamps for the previous Express Mail stamp issues and I remember thinking how exciting and unusual to have the entire sheet of the next Express Mail stamp serviced. So I did it, probably creating a very rare philatelic item (though perhaps not so sought after Surprise). I'm trying to now get some idea of how rare such a FDC might be.


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michael78651

01 Mar 2014
11:09:14pm
re: Unusual FDC - have you ever come across it

Scott merely states, "Numbers...are quantities stated to have received the first day cancel".

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02 Mar 2014
09:27:12am
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3,000 is a very small number, and, of those, almost all are likely to be singles. yours is surely extremely rare; but demand will be the key is selling is your goal.

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03 Mar 2014
04:03:30pm
re: Unusual FDC - have you ever come across it

I believe the numbers are the amount of envelopes processed and not the stamps.

I agree with Michael and David, it would be very difficult to determine a value. I was just looking at James McCusker's website and the largest multiple I saw was a block of four. That was selling for $81 but has a hand painted Ples Cachet which definitely adds to the value. Does your cover have a cachet? Most full sheet FDC's I have seen do not. You might want to contact the folks over at James McCusker.

http://www.jamesmccusker.com/


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mmissinglink

01 Mar 2014
08:24:10pm

I am a novice collector of First Day Covers. I enjoy FDC collecting for several reasons including, but certainly not limited to, the quick education one can get from many of the cachets applied to these covers/envelopes which give additional details about the person, place, or event that is depicted on the stamp.

On occasion, I have also had stamped covers First Day Of Issue serviced myself, sending them in or much less frequently going to a servicing event on that day of issue.

The first high value stamp I ever sent in to be FDOI serviced was the 1983 U.S. $9.35 Express Mail Stamp (Scott 1909). For several years following that, I purchased and had FDOI serviced on my own covers all the Express mail stamps which depicted the American bald eagle. One of the covers that I had FDOI serviced for myself through Stamp Fulfillment Services back in 1991 contains a full sheet of 20 of Scott #2541 $9.95 Eagle & Olympic Rings Express Mail stamp. This image is a single of the stamp not on cover just so you know which stamp issue I am referring to:
Image Not Found

So, here's my question to philatelists here; because I’m trying to learn how many of these full sheets of 20 Express Mail stamps may have been FDOI cancelled, has anyone come across a large FDC with this sheet of stamps? Ever heard of one in existence before?

I also wonder if there is anyone or any authority who may have a good idea about how many full sheets of this stamp may have been cancelled....any ideas from members here?

Any help you can offer me would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.




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michael78651

01 Mar 2014
08:44:32pm

re: Unusual FDC - have you ever come across it

I'm not an authority on this subject, but I would say that due to the high face values of those stamps there probably were not a whole lot of entire sheets canceled. That's alot of money to pay for a sheet!

The Scott US Specialized catalog states the number of stamps from each issue that were reported by the post office to have received first day cancellation service. There will be other stamps from each issue that were privately handled by collectors as well.

Take Scott #3262, the $11.75 piggyback space shuttle issue. Only 3,703 stamps were serviced for first day by the post office. Usually the post office services well over 100,000 stamps for first day covers.

For the stamp you posted, Scott #2541, the number is 65,657. Probably due to the Olympics tie-in. The $14.00 soaring eagle from the same issue, Scott #2542 had 54,727.

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mmissinglink

01 Mar 2014
11:02:56pm

re: Unusual FDC - have you ever come across it

Hi Michael,

Thank you for the informative response. I didn't realize that the Scott Specialized had figures for First Day of Issue servicing. You noted that those figures are for number of "stamps (that) were serviced"....do you know if that's actually what the figures in the book denote or if that number refers to number of covers serviced? It could be a meaningful difference depending on how many multiples on cover were serviced... especially if those multiples were blocks or maybe even sheets of stamps.

And yes, it was a lot of money I paid for a sheet of stamps back 22+ years ago. I recall back then that there was some excitement with FDCs that had the entire booklet strips of three Express Mail stamps for the previous Express Mail stamp issues and I remember thinking how exciting and unusual to have the entire sheet of the next Express Mail stamp serviced. So I did it, probably creating a very rare philatelic item (though perhaps not so sought after Surprise). I'm trying to now get some idea of how rare such a FDC might be.


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michael78651

01 Mar 2014
11:09:14pm

re: Unusual FDC - have you ever come across it

Scott merely states, "Numbers...are quantities stated to have received the first day cancel".

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02 Mar 2014
09:27:12am

re: Unusual FDC - have you ever come across it

3,000 is a very small number, and, of those, almost all are likely to be singles. yours is surely extremely rare; but demand will be the key is selling is your goal.

David

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03 Mar 2014
04:03:30pm

re: Unusual FDC - have you ever come across it

I believe the numbers are the amount of envelopes processed and not the stamps.

I agree with Michael and David, it would be very difficult to determine a value. I was just looking at James McCusker's website and the largest multiple I saw was a block of four. That was selling for $81 but has a hand painted Ples Cachet which definitely adds to the value. Does your cover have a cachet? Most full sheet FDC's I have seen do not. You might want to contact the folks over at James McCusker.

http://www.jamesmccusker.com/


Bob

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