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22 Jan 2014
08:16:57pm
I am creating an approval book for Maldive Islands. Which category would be appropriate for this counrty to be found. Thanks Mario
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22 Jan 2014
09:12:17pm
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I would put it under BRITISH COMMONWEALTH & COLONIES.


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22 Jan 2014
09:18:07pm
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I thought about putting the book in British commonwealth but all the items are newer and after that time period. Mario

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22 Jan 2014
09:35:13pm
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The Republic of the Maldives is officially part of Asia, so you could put it there.

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23 Jan 2014
06:19:41am
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The Maldives rejoined the British Commonwealth of Nations in 1982.
Link to official list of Commonwealth Members

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23 Jan 2014
12:17:00pm
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Looks like British Commonwealth is the right place for Maldive Islands. I may also try asia. Thanks to all for the help. Mario

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23 Jan 2014
01:13:51pm
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It also gets complicated when countries join the Commonwealth, e.g. Mozambique and Rwanda.

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23 Jan 2014
02:38:59pm
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My thinking may be off, but the way I would use only one available category for British Commonwealth items is also to consider the time period that the country was a colony or territory or protectorate. Thus Hong Kong would still be placed under British Commonwealth up through 1997, and under Asia afterwards. Similarly with the Maldives; there was a period when they declined membership in the Commonwealth, then joined in 1982.

The key, to me, is to use the category where collectors of that period would look; I'm more likely to look at British Commonwealth stamps than Asia for Hong Kong items, for example.

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25 Jan 2014
09:50:38am
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Thanks for that tidbit about the Maldives rejoining the Commonwealth, Peter. I did not know that!

Maldives was one, but I've frequently struggled with others, especially post-1960 Cyprus. "Eastern Europe" or even "Middle East". Now I see British Commonwealth could apply there still as well. Well, without consideration for disputed territories.

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25 Jan 2014
01:47:21pm
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I find that colony is the determining measure for me. A country that is no longer a colony, or territory belongs (by my definition) in its own region. Commonwealth should not apply, or you would list Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa under British Related.
Independent states of Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia etc...don't belong under French, but under Africa. I don't think it is a good idea to lump independent states with their former "masters". When a former colonial country becomes independent, it should be dropped from the affiliation with the former colonial empire. Otherwise, why would you limit it to commonwealth? Why not include free trade zone? political Blocks (think former USSR countries) or some other affiliation.
Just my view point, but as it relates to the Maldives, I would never think of looking elsewhere than under Asia.
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25 Jan 2014
03:54:13pm
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The issue of "enough" specificity in categories will plague all selling sites; there is never enough specificity, and almost impossible (at least impractical) to do so. Therefore we have to use the best available category as sellers and as buyers. Sometimes, that's easy; Macao, for example, is clearly Asia, but maybe it would be wise to search under Portugal too.

However, a challenge would be where you would look for Canada or Australia if they didn't have their own categories. Interestingly, the stamp categories used at eBay, bidStart, and here don't have an adequate "mother" category for these countries (e.g., "Americas" or "Oceania") ... other than British Commonwealth, of course.

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I am creating an approval book for Maldive Islands. Which category would be appropriate for this counrty to be found. Thanks Mario

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22 Jan 2014
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I would put it under BRITISH COMMONWEALTH & COLONIES.


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22 Jan 2014
09:18:07pm

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I thought about putting the book in British commonwealth but all the items are newer and after that time period. Mario

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22 Jan 2014
09:35:13pm

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The Republic of the Maldives is officially part of Asia, so you could put it there.

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23 Jan 2014
06:19:41am

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The Maldives rejoined the British Commonwealth of Nations in 1982.
Link to official list of Commonwealth Members

Peter

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23 Jan 2014
12:17:00pm

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Looks like British Commonwealth is the right place for Maldive Islands. I may also try asia. Thanks to all for the help. Mario

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23 Jan 2014
01:13:51pm

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It also gets complicated when countries join the Commonwealth, e.g. Mozambique and Rwanda.

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cocollectibles

23 Jan 2014
02:38:59pm

re: correct category

My thinking may be off, but the way I would use only one available category for British Commonwealth items is also to consider the time period that the country was a colony or territory or protectorate. Thus Hong Kong would still be placed under British Commonwealth up through 1997, and under Asia afterwards. Similarly with the Maldives; there was a period when they declined membership in the Commonwealth, then joined in 1982.

The key, to me, is to use the category where collectors of that period would look; I'm more likely to look at British Commonwealth stamps than Asia for Hong Kong items, for example.

Cheers,
Peter

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25 Jan 2014
09:50:38am

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Thanks for that tidbit about the Maldives rejoining the Commonwealth, Peter. I did not know that!

Maldives was one, but I've frequently struggled with others, especially post-1960 Cyprus. "Eastern Europe" or even "Middle East". Now I see British Commonwealth could apply there still as well. Well, without consideration for disputed territories.

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25 Jan 2014
01:47:21pm

re: correct category

I find that colony is the determining measure for me. A country that is no longer a colony, or territory belongs (by my definition) in its own region. Commonwealth should not apply, or you would list Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa under British Related.
Independent states of Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia etc...don't belong under French, but under Africa. I don't think it is a good idea to lump independent states with their former "masters". When a former colonial country becomes independent, it should be dropped from the affiliation with the former colonial empire. Otherwise, why would you limit it to commonwealth? Why not include free trade zone? political Blocks (think former USSR countries) or some other affiliation.
Just my view point, but as it relates to the Maldives, I would never think of looking elsewhere than under Asia.
rrr...

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cocollectibles

25 Jan 2014
03:54:13pm

re: correct category

The issue of "enough" specificity in categories will plague all selling sites; there is never enough specificity, and almost impossible (at least impractical) to do so. Therefore we have to use the best available category as sellers and as buyers. Sometimes, that's easy; Macao, for example, is clearly Asia, but maybe it would be wise to search under Portugal too.

However, a challenge would be where you would look for Canada or Australia if they didn't have their own categories. Interestingly, the stamp categories used at eBay, bidStart, and here don't have an adequate "mother" category for these countries (e.g., "Americas" or "Oceania") ... other than British Commonwealth, of course.

Peter

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