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General Philatelic/Newcomer Cnr : Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

 

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JCBatty

07 Nov 2013
11:20:43pm
I'm new to this. I'm not even sure if collecting envelopes with stamps and cancellations are even collectible items, but I have come across several letters from the 1950s the stamps are in good condition with clear and readable cancellation marks with readable address and return address what I'm looking for is to find out what these would be called, and if there is a way to collect them.

Joseph C Batty
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08 Nov 2013
08:00:39am
re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

Joseph, there are many people, myself included, who save entire envelopes with the stamps attached. The erudite term for us is postal historians; more plebian, we're called cover collectors. And, yes, what we do is well recognized in the philatellic community, even if we are a decided minority.

There are people who collect a given year, like 1953, or broader period to document either rates or stamp series.

I, for one, collect envelopes with seals on them as well as envelopes that document the various domestic and international rates, plus covers that document special services and problems in delivery. I barely collect stamps anymore, instead concentrating almost exclusively on covers.

So, welcome, Joseph. If you need to ask more questions, go right ahead. And feel free to start sharing images of those things that you find interesting.

David


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08 Nov 2013
08:45:28am
re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

Joseph,
One of the great aspects of this hobby is you can collect what you like. So if your just starting have fun and enjoy. In time you'll figure out what part of this hobby suits your fancy. Here's a simple cover from Barbados.

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08 Nov 2013
10:41:29am

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08 Nov 2013
01:22:51pm
re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

Joseph, what all the others have said is so true; something is "collectible" if you choose to collect it. How you narrow down the scope of your collecting will likely change over time. As a kid I had collected US first day covers, but later I started collecting unusual covers, like Tin Can Mail, Rattle Snake Island canceled covers, British royalty omnibus stamps on covers, etc. The permutations are almost endless! That's the fun of it. Enjoy and share some of your covers with us here.

Cheers,
Peter

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08 Nov 2013
01:38:24pm
re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

This will give you an idea of what I collect, Joseph:

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They are front and back of an post card sent from the USS Texas during the First World War. It's especially nice because it includes a Christmas seal, it has a rather rare pair of stamps, and is military in nature. I wrote this up here and in an online magazine: http://juicyheads.com/link.php?PLJOLIFG


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08 Nov 2013
11:38:57pm
re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

"They are front and back of an post card sent from the USS Texas during the First World War. It's especially nice because it includes a Christmas seal"



Not only that, it's addressed to Christ! Not to quibble, David, you're the cover expert, er postal historian, but isn't that cover FROM Detroit and TO the USS Texas?

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09 Nov 2013
12:49:05pm
re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

Lars, yes, it is addressed to Christ, nearly on his birthday. and yes, it's TO the Texas. that's what I get for writing so quickly.

and thanks for offering me the title expert; you can see just how appropriate it is based on all the corrections, and all earned


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10 Nov 2013
01:04:15am
re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

Joseph I find covers are interesting on a few levels, the stamp, the cancel, the date, the number of cancels, the address and the person receiving the letter. It is a bonus if the letter is still in the evelope. This one was added to my collection this week.Image Not FoundImage Not Found

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10 Nov 2013
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13 Nov 2013
06:36:41pm
re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

A simple cover.
But a treasure.
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It was not prepared as a souvenir.
It is franked by a stamp that only paid that particular postage rate, during a short time when that rate was in effect.
The stamp while cancelled does not have the image obscured.
My twins were born late on the night or June 20th, 1984. It could only be better had the envelope been cancelled East Meadow, Nassau, LI, NY.

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JCBatty

07 Nov 2013
11:20:43pm

I'm new to this. I'm not even sure if collecting envelopes with stamps and cancellations are even collectible items, but I have come across several letters from the 1950s the stamps are in good condition with clear and readable cancellation marks with readable address and return address what I'm looking for is to find out what these would be called, and if there is a way to collect them.

Joseph C Batty

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08 Nov 2013
08:00:39am

re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

Joseph, there are many people, myself included, who save entire envelopes with the stamps attached. The erudite term for us is postal historians; more plebian, we're called cover collectors. And, yes, what we do is well recognized in the philatellic community, even if we are a decided minority.

There are people who collect a given year, like 1953, or broader period to document either rates or stamp series.

I, for one, collect envelopes with seals on them as well as envelopes that document the various domestic and international rates, plus covers that document special services and problems in delivery. I barely collect stamps anymore, instead concentrating almost exclusively on covers.

So, welcome, Joseph. If you need to ask more questions, go right ahead. And feel free to start sharing images of those things that you find interesting.

David


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08 Nov 2013
08:45:28am

re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

Joseph,
One of the great aspects of this hobby is you can collect what you like. So if your just starting have fun and enjoy. In time you'll figure out what part of this hobby suits your fancy. Here's a simple cover from Barbados.

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08 Nov 2013
10:41:29am

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re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

Image Not FoundWhile i am really partial to the covers of 1939 Rock On

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cocollectibles

08 Nov 2013
01:22:51pm

re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

Joseph, what all the others have said is so true; something is "collectible" if you choose to collect it. How you narrow down the scope of your collecting will likely change over time. As a kid I had collected US first day covers, but later I started collecting unusual covers, like Tin Can Mail, Rattle Snake Island canceled covers, British royalty omnibus stamps on covers, etc. The permutations are almost endless! That's the fun of it. Enjoy and share some of your covers with us here.

Cheers,
Peter

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08 Nov 2013
01:38:24pm

re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

This will give you an idea of what I collect, Joseph:

Image Not Found

Image Not Found

They are front and back of an post card sent from the USS Texas during the First World War. It's especially nice because it includes a Christmas seal, it has a rather rare pair of stamps, and is military in nature. I wrote this up here and in an online magazine: http://juicyheads.com/link.php?PLJOLIFG


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08 Nov 2013
11:38:57pm

re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

"They are front and back of an post card sent from the USS Texas during the First World War. It's especially nice because it includes a Christmas seal"



Not only that, it's addressed to Christ! Not to quibble, David, you're the cover expert, er postal historian, but isn't that cover FROM Detroit and TO the USS Texas?

Lars

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09 Nov 2013
12:49:05pm

re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

Lars, yes, it is addressed to Christ, nearly on his birthday. and yes, it's TO the Texas. that's what I get for writing so quickly.

and thanks for offering me the title expert; you can see just how appropriate it is based on all the corrections, and all earned


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10 Nov 2013
01:04:15am

re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

Joseph I find covers are interesting on a few levels, the stamp, the cancel, the date, the number of cancels, the address and the person receiving the letter. It is a bonus if the letter is still in the evelope. This one was added to my collection this week.Image Not FoundImage Not Found

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10 Nov 2013
09:28:10am

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re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

i stuck in my thumb and pulled out a plum...found this one after looking 45 seconds !Image Not Found

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13 Nov 2013
06:36:41pm

re: Envelopes that have clear addresses and cancellation marks and stamps. From 1953

A simple cover.
But a treasure.
Image Not Found

It was not prepared as a souvenir.
It is franked by a stamp that only paid that particular postage rate, during a short time when that rate was in effect.
The stamp while cancelled does not have the image obscured.
My twins were born late on the night or June 20th, 1984. It could only be better had the envelope been cancelled East Meadow, Nassau, LI, NY.

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