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General Philatelic/Newcomer Cnr : Universal Postal Union Stamps

 

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popeye56

29 Oct 2013
11:08:09am
I just started collecting UPU postage. I was given a site where I could view these stamp issues pretty much by country, but don't remember where to locate it. Can some one help me?
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29 Oct 2013
04:54:19pm
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Hi

Try this one http://www.postbeeld.com/en/fsc/search&category=u1

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07 Feb 2021
06:07:20pm
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Can anyone enlighten me on why the bottom stamp is in reverse

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07 Feb 2021
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Rob: It's for the return mail I think.

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13 Sep 2023
12:16:01am
re: Universal Postal Union Stamps

It's called tete-beche from the french.

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25 Jan 2024
03:01:43pm

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I have seen that the term Teté Béche is applied to stamps found together with printing on the front, but I have not seen it on stamps with inverted printing, perhaps it could be an error or rare variant. I give examples of tete béche with normal impression of the front


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26 Jan 2024
02:30:26pm

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an interesting concept... never thought of it

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27 Jan 2024
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I don't think that the term tete-beche applies to side by side stamps since it roughly means up and down or head to tail.

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27 Jan 2024
09:32:43am

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here's Wiki's defo of tete-beche:

https://www.google.com/search?q=tete-bec ...

their images match the ones here.

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27 Jan 2024
09:54:21am
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Here are a couple from my Belgium Collection.

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Benque

27 Jan 2024
10:56:57am
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Yes, but....Rob's Paraguay stamp has a reversed, or mirror image stamp on the bottom. Who would conceivably print a backwards stamp? And why?
So, what would this error, as I would call it, be called by the "experts", like Scott or Michel, or SG, etc?

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27 Jan 2024
11:30:24am

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"rtvstamps: ...but I have not seen it on stamps with inverted printing, perhaps it could be an error or rare variant."


I keep asking, what is it? Error? It's not listed in the specialized Scott either. Thinking

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27 Jan 2024
07:17:34pm
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My first thought is that it is printer's waste, but it has been cancelled. If there is no information on it then it starts to look rare. Could it be fake? Whatever somewhere deep in a Google search of the issue there should be some information.

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30 Jan 2024
12:14:29pm
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To me, it appears the two Paraguay stamps are identical, but a normal tete-beche pair. Does not look like a reversed image.

Tad

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31 Jan 2024
11:50:30pm

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This is the oddest tete bèche I have ever seen. And 3 Garanies in blue?, (sc # 503, or 530, 3G is olive bistre, and #649 is deep blue), is it an issued color and denomination for this stamp in the UPU set. Incidentally I use a MINKUS album, and it does not have a spot for Sc#649 3G deep blue, and I don't have the stamp in my collection to compare colors, let alone this strange reversed "tete beche". Anyone has a Scott # 649 issued in 1968?
Any one has a clue?
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01 Feb 2024
10:04:35am
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The image below is of an item offered on ebay a few years ago, borrowed from another stamp forum where this pair was addressed. Apparently it was an error in position 35 made during preparation of the lithographed plate.

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01 Feb 2024
10:34:29am
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Translation of srolfsmeier’s posted image:

“I examined the fragment of an envelope bearing a Paraguayan stamp, 1968, 3 G., blue (Cat. Yvert & Tellier, No.964), canceled, which is printed in a mirror. This variety, due to an error in the course of the preparation of the lithographic strategy, constantly occupied the position n.35 of the sheet. A photographic reproduction is united here. In my opinion, the fragment is original and the stamp, with its interesting variety, it's perfect: I've signed it ‘ED’.”

Interesting indeed!

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01 Feb 2024
06:50:02pm
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"...constantly occupied the position n.35 of the sheet."



If so, if we knew how many sheets were printed we would know how many stamps have this error. Forget all the tete bèche stuff, this is more to do with the inverted jenny error although probably with a lot more examples. It is a very nice stamp to have and should be in the catalogues.

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popeye56

29 Oct 2013
11:08:09am

I just started collecting UPU postage. I was given a site where I could view these stamp issues pretty much by country, but don't remember where to locate it. Can some one help me?

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lpayette

29 Oct 2013
04:54:19pm

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Hi

Try this one http://www.postbeeld.com/en/fsc/search&category=u1

Lee

(Modified by Moderator on 2013-10-29 19:50:00)

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Rob1956

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07 Feb 2021
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re: Universal Postal Union Stamps

Can anyone enlighten me on why the bottom stamp is in reverse

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07 Feb 2021
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re: Universal Postal Union Stamps

Rob: It's for the return mail I think.

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ccndd

13 Sep 2023
12:16:01am

re: Universal Postal Union Stamps

It's called tete-beche from the french.

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rtvstamps

25 Jan 2024
03:01:43pm

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I have seen that the term Teté Béche is applied to stamps found together with printing on the front, but I have not seen it on stamps with inverted printing, perhaps it could be an error or rare variant. I give examples of tete béche with normal impression of the front


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26 Jan 2024
02:30:26pm

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an interesting concept... never thought of it

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27 Jan 2024
09:15:38am

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I don't think that the term tete-beche applies to side by side stamps since it roughly means up and down or head to tail.

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27 Jan 2024
09:32:43am

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here's Wiki's defo of tete-beche:

https://www.google.com/search?q=tete-bec ...

their images match the ones here.

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27 Jan 2024
09:54:21am

re: Universal Postal Union Stamps

Here are a couple from my Belgium Collection.

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Benque

27 Jan 2024
10:56:57am

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Yes, but....Rob's Paraguay stamp has a reversed, or mirror image stamp on the bottom. Who would conceivably print a backwards stamp? And why?
So, what would this error, as I would call it, be called by the "experts", like Scott or Michel, or SG, etc?

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rtvstamps

27 Jan 2024
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"rtvstamps: ...but I have not seen it on stamps with inverted printing, perhaps it could be an error or rare variant."


I keep asking, what is it? Error? It's not listed in the specialized Scott either. Thinking

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DannyS

27 Jan 2024
07:17:34pm

re: Universal Postal Union Stamps

My first thought is that it is printer's waste, but it has been cancelled. If there is no information on it then it starts to look rare. Could it be fake? Whatever somewhere deep in a Google search of the issue there should be some information.

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copy55555

30 Jan 2024
12:14:29pm

re: Universal Postal Union Stamps

To me, it appears the two Paraguay stamps are identical, but a normal tete-beche pair. Does not look like a reversed image.

Tad

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31 Jan 2024
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re: Universal Postal Union Stamps

This is the oddest tete bèche I have ever seen. And 3 Garanies in blue?, (sc # 503, or 530, 3G is olive bistre, and #649 is deep blue), is it an issued color and denomination for this stamp in the UPU set. Incidentally I use a MINKUS album, and it does not have a spot for Sc#649 3G deep blue, and I don't have the stamp in my collection to compare colors, let alone this strange reversed "tete beche". Anyone has a Scott # 649 issued in 1968?
Any one has a clue?
rrr...

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01 Feb 2024
10:04:35am

re: Universal Postal Union Stamps

The image below is of an item offered on ebay a few years ago, borrowed from another stamp forum where this pair was addressed. Apparently it was an error in position 35 made during preparation of the lithographed plate.

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Bobstamp

01 Feb 2024
10:34:29am

re: Universal Postal Union Stamps

Translation of srolfsmeier’s posted image:

“I examined the fragment of an envelope bearing a Paraguayan stamp, 1968, 3 G., blue (Cat. Yvert & Tellier, No.964), canceled, which is printed in a mirror. This variety, due to an error in the course of the preparation of the lithographic strategy, constantly occupied the position n.35 of the sheet. A photographic reproduction is united here. In my opinion, the fragment is original and the stamp, with its interesting variety, it's perfect: I've signed it ‘ED’.”

Interesting indeed!

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DannyS

01 Feb 2024
06:50:02pm

re: Universal Postal Union Stamps

"...constantly occupied the position n.35 of the sheet."



If so, if we knew how many sheets were printed we would know how many stamps have this error. Forget all the tete bèche stuff, this is more to do with the inverted jenny error although probably with a lot more examples. It is a very nice stamp to have and should be in the catalogues.

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