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d1stamper
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01 Oct 2013
03:43:44pm
I am needing help in finding the Scott Catalog number for this stamp. There appears to be an overprint on the stamps.

Thanks for your help.

Doug

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cocollectibles
01 Oct 2013
04:36:52pm
re: INDIA need help

Looks like the letters I S O I (from NW corner clockwise), printed at an angle; my bet would be a company cancel. I can't find anything on such cancels for India but there is an extensive study of company cancels on British Hong Kong stamps (see our Links page) so I suspect there would be one for British India too.

Peter

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02 Oct 2013
12:57:41pm
re: INDIA need help

It says 1890.

Nice squared circle postmark of Fatehgarh on an otherwise destroyed stamp.

Arno

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cocollectibles
02 Oct 2013
01:03:56pm
re: INDIA need help

Good eye Arno! I can see it now. I have a large QV India collection but have not seen a cancel such as this, with the date on the corners.

Cheers,
Peter

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02 Oct 2013
02:27:14pm
re: INDIA need help

" .... It says 1890. ...."
Which is when QV stamps were being used throughout the civilized world.

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02 Oct 2013
03:43:13pm
re: INDIA need help

Just to clarify: The 1890 is written on the stamp in ink and not part of the cancel. The writing on the stamp makes it a case for the waste basket.

The postmark year-date, which also happens to be '90' is included inside at the bottom of the postmark. The postmark-style is called "squared-circle" due to four triangular ornaments on the sides of the circle. Here, only one of the ornaments is clearly visible in the six o'clock position and another one discernible at 3 o'clock. It is a quite common cancel type. Over the years of the distribution of these cancels there have been numerous variations with respect to size, design of corner ornaments etc. You can find them from many countries of the British Empire. They are quite avidly collected.

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Sally
02 Oct 2013
05:30:03pm
re: INDIA need help

Thanks Arno for the explanation and photo illustration. Was it common to write in ink on the corners?

Sally

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02 Oct 2013
07:46:10pm
re: INDIA need help

No, Sally, this is a first for me. Doug's careful examination of the stamp should reveal if the number were drawn on the stamp before or after it was cancelled. Either way, in my opinion, writing on the stamp makes the stamp worthless. Someone was just having "fun."

Arno

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d1stamper
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02 Oct 2013
09:09:04pm
re: INDIA need help

Thank you everyone for your help. It did not occur to me that someone had written the year on the stamp.

Looking at the stamp it looks like the date was written on the stamp before it was cancelled.

Thank you for all information, always looking to learn more about these pieces of paper that we collect.

Doug

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