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You didn't give me any! How you can you not be remorseful???
Drooling over the selvedge!
Stay safe, my friend!
k
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Michael,
Great stamps. Congratulations! My Michel 2007/08 lists the 10 Sent. instead 10 Sant. overprint error on the 20 Para at EUR 60.00 catalog value MNH, vs. EUR 1.00 for the regular stamp. And you show us three of those in units. Really cool.
I only have a beginner collection of Turkey.
Arno
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Michael,
I changed the title inadvertently. If you click "respond" you will see a box Subject above the Message box. If you put something in there -- I put Hatay in it -- it apparently changes the subject for the whole discussion (?) while I meant to change it for my response only.
I personally believe that a catch all topic "Cool new acquisitions" with eventually hundreds of messages is pointless. If your desire a discussion thread for the purpose of soliciting banter, such that folks can post new stamps they got for the purpose that the usual responders reassure the poster and each other that the acquisition indeed is cool, great, and thumbs up: fine. It appears, if you respond to this message, you can rename it as you originally intended. I was not aware that changing the topic in the box would change it for the whole topic, and not just for my response.
However, if the purpose of the discussion is to add to philatelic knowledge, such as educating folks about the existence of a misprint on the Hatay 10 Sant. on 20 Para, and illustrating it for those that have never seen it, an individual topic in the appropriate sub-topic is much more desirable. In the first case, potentially interesting and useful philatelic information is buried in an endless banter thread; in the latter case useful information will be accessible and preserved for the future. Contributors will likely also receive more useful and intelligent responses in an individual topic than in a catch-all thread.
Arno
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07:50:31am
Michael
In Arno's defense, if he hadn't changed your topic title, I would have (for much the same reason). Such a topic would (necessarily) invite uploaded images for nearly every post, and as stamp collectors are always acquiring "new acquisitions," all of which we consider "cool," it would not be long until loading the thread would be cumbersome and the impatient souls among us (of which I admit to being a member) would end up skipping the thread entirely.
When I do change topic names, however, I, and the other moderators, by agreement, try to keep the new name as close to the original as possible. My choice would have been, "Cool new acquisitions - Hatay completed!" Please feel free to change the name back to something you feel more appropriate, but try to make it situationally relevant, and not so general.
-Bobby
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I've noticed sometimes moderators change a member's post, as it states this at the bottom of the post; however, it doesn't say why. I would find it helpful to know why, not only for my posts but others, so if there is a posting violation, incoherence, or some other reason (such as the wording of a title) then we can be educated as to what the issue was. Thanks.
Peter
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Coco, in most cases, it appears that the change has simply been to convert the link from the URL monstrosity into a simple descriptive word/phrase. It does look better, although you will have to pay attention to the word color to realize that it is a clickable link.
Posters can edit the links themselves. For those who did not know how to do it, when you insert a link, it is in the format:
URL,linkname
The "linkname" is what appears in your post. However, the system defaults to inserting as
URL,URL
so if you don't do anything, the URL is displayed in your post. To customize the link, change the 2nd URL to whatever descriptive word/phrase, and that word/phrase will appear in your post as a colored clickable link (instead of the URL).
Sorry to have hijacked this thread. Now back to your regularly scheduled Hatay drooling.
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11:51:11am
Peter
Anytime I edit or change a post I notify the person whose post I messed with either by email or via an SOR message, and I believe the other moderators do the same. However, there are certain things which do not affect the message in the post upon which we do not feel compelled to spend time communicating.
Kim hit the nail on the head with the response regarding activation of links. Many members just post the URL, knowing busy bodies such as myself cannot resist activating them. When we do so, the system automatically places a notation at the bottom of the post stating that the post has been modified. I do this several times a day (so often in fact that I have created macros to assist me) so I do not waste time on notifications since no harm was done to the message.
There is also another instance where I do not feel compelled to communicate, and that is when there is an ambiguous or misleading title to the post. I often modify such titles, and where the modification is only slight and does not affect the post's intended message, I just change it and go merrily down the road.
The moderators on this board are very user friendly and not at all heavy handed. Contact any one of us at any time if you have concerns. Other than myself, the other moderators are Capestampman, lisagrant87, and Jansimon.
Hope this helps
-Bobby
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Congratulations.
Now did you get Scott 2a, and Scott 3a (the small 25 and 50 o/p)?
I am still missing those two, as well as the last postage due sets, which I have resisted when offered at prices that were too high by my budget.
Nicely done anyway..not too many Hatay material around.
How about Alexandretta next for you? Same area, same period, same geographical location... More interesting than cleaning your closet.
Interesting historical area, a source of friction between Turkey and Syria since the end of the Ottoman empire...This spills into the Syria discussion we had elsewhere!
Rrr...
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Well, I guess the "Sent." overprint error is rather interesting. 
But the inverted printing on the selvedge...
Seriously, very nice acquisition, Michael! And here's a few extra smilies to annoy you...
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Congratulations Michael! 
The (multiple) 10 Sent makes me drool!
Now, just to make sure you don't put Hatay aside and focus on cleaning your closet, do you also have the FD Cancelled Page? (copy of my (less than pristine) duplicate attached... and available for the asking)
rrr....
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I understand what Arno and others postered about threads getting long and not a lot of information being shared, but I love to see what people are acquiring and what they are excited about. When I fine a new acquisition that really turns me on, I want to share it.
Regards ... Tim
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I think sharing the images, especially of hard to obtain stamps, is sharing information.
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05:27:56am
And I believe that way also Michael. However, I would rather see 500 different posts with 10 responses each, each posted under an appropriate topic and titled so that it pulled me in, rather than one general post with 5000 responses which slows down my computer and leaves me clueless about what I will find once the page finally does load.
Also. there is the aspect of future searches by new members or members who vaguely remember a post concerning something which they encounter. Searching for "Hatay" is not going to pull up anything if the topic has a general, catch-all title.
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Tim,
Please do so. A lot of times an item that someone shows "just to share" spins off interesting discussions that go much beyond the original purpose of "just showing." I was just expressing an opinion to prefer individual topics in the appropriate subject category over one endless "my new acquisitions"-topic.
Arno
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I agree with that, guys. Better to see the Hatay stamps separate and stamps from other areas on their own posts as well. Much easier to find them later as stated.
Michael, I know you've been trying to get Hatay completed for a while. Congrats! It's always a nice feeling when a country is completed. Not easy to do most of the time.
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09 Jul 2013
02:21:48pm
Congratulations! What are you going to complete next?
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re: Hatay
You didn't give me any! How you can you not be remorseful???
Drooling over the selvedge!
Stay safe, my friend!
k
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re: Hatay
Michael,
Great stamps. Congratulations! My Michel 2007/08 lists the 10 Sent. instead 10 Sant. overprint error on the 20 Para at EUR 60.00 catalog value MNH, vs. EUR 1.00 for the regular stamp. And you show us three of those in units. Really cool.
I only have a beginner collection of Turkey.
Arno
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re: Hatay
Michael,
I changed the title inadvertently. If you click "respond" you will see a box Subject above the Message box. If you put something in there -- I put Hatay in it -- it apparently changes the subject for the whole discussion (?) while I meant to change it for my response only.
I personally believe that a catch all topic "Cool new acquisitions" with eventually hundreds of messages is pointless. If your desire a discussion thread for the purpose of soliciting banter, such that folks can post new stamps they got for the purpose that the usual responders reassure the poster and each other that the acquisition indeed is cool, great, and thumbs up: fine. It appears, if you respond to this message, you can rename it as you originally intended. I was not aware that changing the topic in the box would change it for the whole topic, and not just for my response.
However, if the purpose of the discussion is to add to philatelic knowledge, such as educating folks about the existence of a misprint on the Hatay 10 Sant. on 20 Para, and illustrating it for those that have never seen it, an individual topic in the appropriate sub-topic is much more desirable. In the first case, potentially interesting and useful philatelic information is buried in an endless banter thread; in the latter case useful information will be accessible and preserved for the future. Contributors will likely also receive more useful and intelligent responses in an individual topic than in a catch-all thread.
Arno
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They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
10 Jul 2013
07:50:31am
re: Hatay
Michael
In Arno's defense, if he hadn't changed your topic title, I would have (for much the same reason). Such a topic would (necessarily) invite uploaded images for nearly every post, and as stamp collectors are always acquiring "new acquisitions," all of which we consider "cool," it would not be long until loading the thread would be cumbersome and the impatient souls among us (of which I admit to being a member) would end up skipping the thread entirely.
When I do change topic names, however, I, and the other moderators, by agreement, try to keep the new name as close to the original as possible. My choice would have been, "Cool new acquisitions - Hatay completed!" Please feel free to change the name back to something you feel more appropriate, but try to make it situationally relevant, and not so general.
-Bobby
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09:18:55am
re: Hatay
I've noticed sometimes moderators change a member's post, as it states this at the bottom of the post; however, it doesn't say why. I would find it helpful to know why, not only for my posts but others, so if there is a posting violation, incoherence, or some other reason (such as the wording of a title) then we can be educated as to what the issue was. Thanks.
Peter
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re: Hatay
Coco, in most cases, it appears that the change has simply been to convert the link from the URL monstrosity into a simple descriptive word/phrase. It does look better, although you will have to pay attention to the word color to realize that it is a clickable link.
Posters can edit the links themselves. For those who did not know how to do it, when you insert a link, it is in the format:
URL,linkname
The "linkname" is what appears in your post. However, the system defaults to inserting as
URL,URL
so if you don't do anything, the URL is displayed in your post. To customize the link, change the 2nd URL to whatever descriptive word/phrase, and that word/phrase will appear in your post as a colored clickable link (instead of the URL).
Sorry to have hijacked this thread. Now back to your regularly scheduled Hatay drooling.
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They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
10 Jul 2013
11:51:11am
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Peter
Anytime I edit or change a post I notify the person whose post I messed with either by email or via an SOR message, and I believe the other moderators do the same. However, there are certain things which do not affect the message in the post upon which we do not feel compelled to spend time communicating.
Kim hit the nail on the head with the response regarding activation of links. Many members just post the URL, knowing busy bodies such as myself cannot resist activating them. When we do so, the system automatically places a notation at the bottom of the post stating that the post has been modified. I do this several times a day (so often in fact that I have created macros to assist me) so I do not waste time on notifications since no harm was done to the message.
There is also another instance where I do not feel compelled to communicate, and that is when there is an ambiguous or misleading title to the post. I often modify such titles, and where the modification is only slight and does not affect the post's intended message, I just change it and go merrily down the road.
The moderators on this board are very user friendly and not at all heavy handed. Contact any one of us at any time if you have concerns. Other than myself, the other moderators are Capestampman, lisagrant87, and Jansimon.
Hope this helps
-Bobby
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Congratulations.
Now did you get Scott 2a, and Scott 3a (the small 25 and 50 o/p)?
I am still missing those two, as well as the last postage due sets, which I have resisted when offered at prices that were too high by my budget.
Nicely done anyway..not too many Hatay material around.
How about Alexandretta next for you? Same area, same period, same geographical location... More interesting than cleaning your closet.
Interesting historical area, a source of friction between Turkey and Syria since the end of the Ottoman empire...This spills into the Syria discussion we had elsewhere!
Rrr...
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Well, I guess the "Sent." overprint error is rather interesting.
But the inverted printing on the selvedge...
Seriously, very nice acquisition, Michael! And here's a few extra smilies to annoy you...
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re: Hatay
Congratulations Michael!
The (multiple) 10 Sent makes me drool!
Now, just to make sure you don't put Hatay aside and focus on cleaning your closet, do you also have the FD Cancelled Page? (copy of my (less than pristine) duplicate attached... and available for the asking)
rrr....
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re: Hatay
I understand what Arno and others postered about threads getting long and not a lot of information being shared, but I love to see what people are acquiring and what they are excited about. When I fine a new acquisition that really turns me on, I want to share it.
Regards ... Tim
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05:05:55am
re: Hatay
I think sharing the images, especially of hard to obtain stamps, is sharing information.
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They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
11 Jul 2013
05:27:56am
re: Hatay
And I believe that way also Michael. However, I would rather see 500 different posts with 10 responses each, each posted under an appropriate topic and titled so that it pulled me in, rather than one general post with 5000 responses which slows down my computer and leaves me clueless about what I will find once the page finally does load.
Also. there is the aspect of future searches by new members or members who vaguely remember a post concerning something which they encounter. Searching for "Hatay" is not going to pull up anything if the topic has a general, catch-all title.
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Tim,
Please do so. A lot of times an item that someone shows "just to share" spins off interesting discussions that go much beyond the original purpose of "just showing." I was just expressing an opinion to prefer individual topics in the appropriate subject category over one endless "my new acquisitions"-topic.
Arno
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12:23:53pm
re: Hatay
I agree with that, guys. Better to see the Hatay stamps separate and stamps from other areas on their own posts as well. Much easier to find them later as stated.
Michael, I know you've been trying to get Hatay completed for a while. Congrats! It's always a nice feeling when a country is completed. Not easy to do most of the time.
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