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rrraphy
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18 Jun 2013
12:40:20pm
I like using smileys when I post, and I noticed that they seem to have a mind of their own.
They don't seem to end up where I intended them to go!
Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
I find that I have to edit the text after posting it, cut At Wits Endthe smiley from its spontaneous (it is a quantum world?) location and paste it in the edit text where I always intended it to go.
If I add an additional smiley, it may or may not go where I intended, again....more often than not it behaves by the same quantum physics rules.
rrr.... (my smiley is intended here..let us see where it ends up, as an illustration: )

test illustration done.

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18 Jun 2013
12:43:15pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

I am on windows, dell desktop, system 8, using chrome.
rrr....

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18 Jun 2013
01:51:19pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Yes, that happens to me but only sometimes. I'd position the cursor where I want the smiley, such as here: Cool and this time it worked, of course! But sometimes, it doesn't.

Windows XP, Toshiba laptop, Firefox.

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18 Jun 2013
01:56:38pm
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On the other hand it forces me to re-read my post and edit my typos...so maybe that was the intent all along.
Smiley intended here: Laughing
rrr... (it worked)

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18 Jun 2013
03:01:29pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

mdroth's revenge on all those who use emoticons.

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Tim
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18 Jun 2013
05:38:05pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Hi rrraphy,
There are differences in the way that the many different browsers/operating systems work with the javascript code that works out the position within the textbox to place the smiley. We have addressed this several times so far and I have every confidence that it will be an ongoing opportunity to excel. I don't have a Windows 8 environment to try to replicate the problem in. I'll see if I can make my Chrome browser do the same thing. If I can replicate the problem, I can fix it. Happy

Regards ... Tim.

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18 Jun 2013
05:50:25pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Using Windows 7 Home Premium and Firefox 19.0.2.

I've run into this problem intermittently ever since the recent smiley additions.

rrr and I briefly posted about this problem before in another thread.

I've always assumed the incorrectly placed smilies were not randomly placed. In the future, I'll try to examine the exact location and see if it corresponds to any other previous activity (e.g., edit, click...) or letter combination.

Happy k

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19 Jun 2013
04:55:12am
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

i don't use emoticons, but do occasionally use HTML tagging (those who've seen my auction posts know the links are likely not to), and I find similar problems. Recently I discovered the source of the problem is the coding itself, which is itself a shortened acronym: Happy To Move Left, Right, Whereever.

David

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21 Jun 2013
02:51:32pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

OK, I've been trying to pay attention to when I run into this problem.

It does seem to be related to editing.

After typing part of a post, if I go back and click (or select?) to correct a typo/grammar, that seems to be the spot that the emoticon gets inserted. Somehow the software remembers that spot. Because when I click on the end to continue typing my post, the emoticon still gets inserted at that previous edit location.

I will try a few test posts to see if they are truly related...

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21 Jun 2013
02:54:51pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

This line has no errors. I will retype a second time and edit it here, then type a third time, then add emoticon at end.

This line has no errors. I will retype a second time and edit it hI Don't Want To Seeare, then type a third time, then add emoticon at end.

This line has no errors. I will retype a second time and edit it here, then type a thrid time, then add emoticon at the end.

Note that the 2nd line actually does have an intentionally introduced error, as I edited "here" to become "hare".


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21 Jun 2013
02:55:47pm
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Wouldn't you know it, I had a typo in the 3rd line -- "third", not "thrid"!

OK, you can see that the emoticon got inserted at the edit spot, even though I had clicked to the end of the 2nd line and typed a 3rd and 4th line. Somehow, the forum software is remembering the previous edit point and inserting the emoticon there!

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Tim
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21 Jun 2013
06:09:04pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Well done Kim. I can create the same problem on all browsers. I'll let you know when it is fixed (hopefully tomorrow).

Regards ... Tim

Ps. Love the new avatar.

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21 Jun 2013
10:19:38pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

I don't use smileys. They're for prepubescent girls.

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michael78651

21 Jun 2013
11:04:27pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

"I don't use smileys. They're for prepubescent girls."



Surprise

I had better get those books on Kindle soon.
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21 Jun 2013
11:10:48pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Please hurry, Tim. I'm about to hit puberty very soon. I want to use my smilies while I still can!

Big Grin k

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21 Jun 2013
11:11:29pm
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Michael, I read an excerpt of your work on Amazon, and I'm dying to read the rest. I love horror, and there are so few good authors in that genre.


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21 Jun 2013
11:26:26pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

KHJ,

Stop drinking milk and eating chicken. They're full of growth hormones which lead to early puberty.

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Tim
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22 Jun 2013
07:15:03am
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Kim, Peter, Ralph and David,
I believe I have found the problem. Please do some testing for me and see if you can find a situation where the emoticons don't go where you want them to.

Regards ... Tim.

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cocollectibles

22 Jun 2013
07:53:47am
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

it again. good. So far, so Winking

Let's try Big Hug

Okay, what I did was I typed "So far, so" and hit the emoticon. Then my cursor got reset to the beginning of the sentence where I typed "good" instead of after the emoticon.

I hit enter then I typed "Let's try" followed by an emoticon and "it again." which appeared at the beginning of the post.

Sad

and yes, after that emoticon, it went back to the beginning of the post again, not after the emoticon.

Peter

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Tim
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22 Jun 2013
08:01:56am
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

I think you have me on that one Peter. I have the emoticons coming out in the correct position, but I don't think that I have the ability to re-position the cursor as the screen is repainted after the emoticon placement.

Tim.

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rrraphy
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22 Jun 2013
03:35:51pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

I am testing with my set up (smiley)Big Grin
Now after the first one it goes in edit mode (smiley)Big Grin
Cursor always back to the top..but that is fine (2 Happysmileys)Big Grin
Ooops my mistake..I inserted a 2 and I can't remember if I went back to the end..
So retesting (2 smileys) Big Grin Big Grin

ok all is fine with my test, Tim (4 smileys) Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Wave
rrr...

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Tim
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22 Jun 2013
04:26:48pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Thanks guys, for testing it out for me. I'll tick this on off for now.

Regards ... Tim.

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22 Jun 2013
08:20:12pm
re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Thanks a lot, Tim!

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rrraphy

Retired Consultant APS#186030
18 Jun 2013
12:40:20pm

I like using smileys when I post, and I noticed that they seem to have a mind of their own.
They don't seem to end up where I intended them to go!
Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
I find that I have to edit the text after posting it, cut At Wits Endthe smiley from its spontaneous (it is a quantum world?) location and paste it in the edit text where I always intended it to go.
If I add an additional smiley, it may or may not go where I intended, again....more often than not it behaves by the same quantum physics rules.
rrr.... (my smiley is intended here..let us see where it ends up, as an illustration: )

test illustration done.

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18 Jun 2013
12:43:15pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

I am on windows, dell desktop, system 8, using chrome.
rrr....

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cocollectibles

18 Jun 2013
01:51:19pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Yes, that happens to me but only sometimes. I'd position the cursor where I want the smiley, such as here: Cool and this time it worked, of course! But sometimes, it doesn't.

Windows XP, Toshiba laptop, Firefox.

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18 Jun 2013
01:56:38pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

On the other hand it forces me to re-read my post and edit my typos...so maybe that was the intent all along.
Smiley intended here: Laughing
rrr... (it worked)

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18 Jun 2013
03:01:29pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

mdroth's revenge on all those who use emoticons.

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Tim
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18 Jun 2013
05:38:05pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Hi rrraphy,
There are differences in the way that the many different browsers/operating systems work with the javascript code that works out the position within the textbox to place the smiley. We have addressed this several times so far and I have every confidence that it will be an ongoing opportunity to excel. I don't have a Windows 8 environment to try to replicate the problem in. I'll see if I can make my Chrome browser do the same thing. If I can replicate the problem, I can fix it. Happy

Regards ... Tim.

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18 Jun 2013
05:50:25pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Using Windows 7 Home Premium and Firefox 19.0.2.

I've run into this problem intermittently ever since the recent smiley additions.

rrr and I briefly posted about this problem before in another thread.

I've always assumed the incorrectly placed smilies were not randomly placed. In the future, I'll try to examine the exact location and see if it corresponds to any other previous activity (e.g., edit, click...) or letter combination.

Happy k

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19 Jun 2013
04:55:12am

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

i don't use emoticons, but do occasionally use HTML tagging (those who've seen my auction posts know the links are likely not to), and I find similar problems. Recently I discovered the source of the problem is the coding itself, which is itself a shortened acronym: Happy To Move Left, Right, Whereever.

David

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21 Jun 2013
02:51:32pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

OK, I've been trying to pay attention to when I run into this problem.

It does seem to be related to editing.

After typing part of a post, if I go back and click (or select?) to correct a typo/grammar, that seems to be the spot that the emoticon gets inserted. Somehow the software remembers that spot. Because when I click on the end to continue typing my post, the emoticon still gets inserted at that previous edit location.

I will try a few test posts to see if they are truly related...

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21 Jun 2013
02:54:51pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

This line has no errors. I will retype a second time and edit it here, then type a third time, then add emoticon at end.

This line has no errors. I will retype a second time and edit it hI Don't Want To Seeare, then type a third time, then add emoticon at end.

This line has no errors. I will retype a second time and edit it here, then type a thrid time, then add emoticon at the end.

Note that the 2nd line actually does have an intentionally introduced error, as I edited "here" to become "hare".


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21 Jun 2013
02:55:47pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Wouldn't you know it, I had a typo in the 3rd line -- "third", not "thrid"!

OK, you can see that the emoticon got inserted at the edit spot, even though I had clicked to the end of the 2nd line and typed a 3rd and 4th line. Somehow, the forum software is remembering the previous edit point and inserting the emoticon there!

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Tim
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21 Jun 2013
06:09:04pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Well done Kim. I can create the same problem on all browsers. I'll let you know when it is fixed (hopefully tomorrow).

Regards ... Tim

Ps. Love the new avatar.

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21 Jun 2013
10:19:38pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

I don't use smileys. They're for prepubescent girls.

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michael78651

21 Jun 2013
11:04:27pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

"I don't use smileys. They're for prepubescent girls."



Surprise

I had better get those books on Kindle soon.
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21 Jun 2013
11:10:48pm

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Please hurry, Tim. I'm about to hit puberty very soon. I want to use my smilies while I still can!

Big Grin k

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re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Michael, I read an excerpt of your work on Amazon, and I'm dying to read the rest. I love horror, and there are so few good authors in that genre.


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KHJ,

Stop drinking milk and eating chicken. They're full of growth hormones which lead to early puberty.

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Tim
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22 Jun 2013
07:15:03am

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Kim, Peter, Ralph and David,
I believe I have found the problem. Please do some testing for me and see if you can find a situation where the emoticons don't go where you want them to.

Regards ... Tim.

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cocollectibles

22 Jun 2013
07:53:47am

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

it again. good. So far, so Winking

Let's try Big Hug

Okay, what I did was I typed "So far, so" and hit the emoticon. Then my cursor got reset to the beginning of the sentence where I typed "good" instead of after the emoticon.

I hit enter then I typed "Let's try" followed by an emoticon and "it again." which appeared at the beginning of the post.

Sad

and yes, after that emoticon, it went back to the beginning of the post again, not after the emoticon.

Peter

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Tim
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22 Jun 2013
08:01:56am

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

I think you have me on that one Peter. I have the emoticons coming out in the correct position, but I don't think that I have the ability to re-position the cursor as the screen is repainted after the emoticon placement.

Tim.

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Retired Consultant APS#186030
22 Jun 2013
03:35:51pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

I am testing with my set up (smiley)Big Grin
Now after the first one it goes in edit mode (smiley)Big Grin
Cursor always back to the top..but that is fine (2 Happysmileys)Big Grin
Ooops my mistake..I inserted a 2 and I can't remember if I went back to the end..
So retesting (2 smileys) Big Grin Big Grin

ok all is fine with my test, Tim (4 smileys) Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Wave
rrr...

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Tim
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22 Jun 2013
04:26:48pm

re: Inserting smileys where you want them

Thanks guys, for testing it out for me. I'll tick this on off for now.

Regards ... Tim.

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22 Jun 2013
08:20:12pm

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Thanks a lot, Tim!

Thumbs Up k

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