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Which color is a darker shade of red, deep claret or deep vermilion?
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Yes, All of the PD's were perf 12 until 1914, and Vermilion is very much more Red than is Claret.
Mike
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Thanks Mike
"Vermilion is very much more Red than is Claret"
My color expert (wife) is still scratching her head. Which red would you say is a darker shade of red? Closer to maroon?
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red is red; claret is a deep red, like a big wine or Bordeaux, from which it comes; and vermillion is almost an orange. these are non-specialized terms, but should help you distinguish among them
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To aid in identification, the image on the left is the vermillion J29 and the one on the right is the deep claret J32. Both images were taken from the Philatelic Foundation's database (Certs 499556 and 494502).
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Thanks all for the pictures and advice. At least now she has something to refer to when I ask her if the stamp is vermillion or claret. My wife tells me I am a bit color blind beyond the colors I already knew I couldn't see.
I sometimes make public fashion statements much to my wife's chagrin.
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Not to get too far off topic but I did puchase my wife a SG color chart for Christmas. She claims the stamps don't match the any of the colors on the SG color chart as indicated in Scotts. Is there a difference in color charts or is she not using it correctly?
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It could be they do not match the catalogue listings because Scott and SG use different terms for the same color. So if you use the SG colour guide, the wording on the Guide may not match the term used in a Scott Catalogue.
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Peter
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Also, do not use the colors you see on your monitor as being precise or correct. Monitors show colors in different ways.
The best way to determine correct colors is to find a stamp from the same time period that was issued only in the color you want to determine. Then do your comparison. After a little practice, you will be able to tell the difference in the shades.
For those postage dues, you have the Washington/Franklins, and Liberty series that you could use to compare.
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Thanks I guess I will have to get the Scotts color chart. I like the idea of using other stamps as color examples. I will try to put my own color chart together.
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The Scott color chart is only for a very small group of stamps and will not help you with your question.
It is much easier (and cheaper) to simply find stamps that were issued only in one color and use those as your guide.
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I had an old Sg color guage until it got BBQ'ed and found it to pretty accurate.
my wife got me a Wonder guage that is horrible.It survived but can't toss it for obvious reason. whatever, you do don't get one of those. BTW: Am told SG guage is great for
worldwide stamps but Us, not so much, however i have found it to be quite accurate for them ,too.
BTW: U.S.#138 & #178 is vermilion. much more orange red or red orange , whichever.
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Is the perferation 12 on the 1894-95 series of postage dues?
Which color is a darker shade of red, deep claret or deep vermilion?
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Yes, All of the PD's were perf 12 until 1914, and Vermilion is very much more Red than is Claret.
Mike
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re: Postage Due J29-37 Question
Thanks Mike
"Vermilion is very much more Red than is Claret"
My color expert (wife) is still scratching her head. Which red would you say is a darker shade of red? Closer to maroon?
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re: Postage Due J29-37 Question
red is red; claret is a deep red, like a big wine or Bordeaux, from which it comes; and vermillion is almost an orange. these are non-specialized terms, but should help you distinguish among them
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re: Postage Due J29-37 Question
To aid in identification, the image on the left is the vermillion J29 and the one on the right is the deep claret J32. Both images were taken from the Philatelic Foundation's database (Certs 499556 and 494502).
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re: Postage Due J29-37 Question
Thanks all for the pictures and advice. At least now she has something to refer to when I ask her if the stamp is vermillion or claret. My wife tells me I am a bit color blind beyond the colors I already knew I couldn't see.
I sometimes make public fashion statements much to my wife's chagrin.
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re: Postage Due J29-37 Question
Not to get too far off topic but I did puchase my wife a SG color chart for Christmas. She claims the stamps don't match the any of the colors on the SG color chart as indicated in Scotts. Is there a difference in color charts or is she not using it correctly?
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08:03:34am
re: Postage Due J29-37 Question
It could be they do not match the catalogue listings because Scott and SG use different terms for the same color. So if you use the SG colour guide, the wording on the Guide may not match the term used in a Scott Catalogue.
Cheers,
Peter
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01:42:28pm
re: Postage Due J29-37 Question
Also, do not use the colors you see on your monitor as being precise or correct. Monitors show colors in different ways.
The best way to determine correct colors is to find a stamp from the same time period that was issued only in the color you want to determine. Then do your comparison. After a little practice, you will be able to tell the difference in the shades.
For those postage dues, you have the Washington/Franklins, and Liberty series that you could use to compare.
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re: Postage Due J29-37 Question
Thanks I guess I will have to get the Scotts color chart. I like the idea of using other stamps as color examples. I will try to put my own color chart together.
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04:08:04pm
re: Postage Due J29-37 Question
The Scott color chart is only for a very small group of stamps and will not help you with your question.
It is much easier (and cheaper) to simply find stamps that were issued only in one color and use those as your guide.
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re: Postage Due J29-37 Question
I had an old Sg color guage until it got BBQ'ed and found it to pretty accurate.
my wife got me a Wonder guage that is horrible.It survived but can't toss it for obvious reason. whatever, you do don't get one of those. BTW: Am told SG guage is great for
worldwide stamps but Us, not so much, however i have found it to be quite accurate for them ,too.
BTW: U.S.#138 & #178 is vermilion. much more orange red or red orange , whichever.
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