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President - West Essex Philatelic Society www.wepsonline.org
19 Apr 2013
11:11:04am
I just purchased this cover on eBay.

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There are 2 reasons why this cover is important to me.

1) I was the Postal Clerk on board the USS Hoel (DDG-13) from 1984 to 1988. I have been searching for covers that I personally cancelled. This happens to be one of them.

2) It is dated 10/19/1987. That day my ship was involved in Operation Nimble Archer which was a part of Operation Earnest Will. My ship along with a few others destroyed a couple offshore Iranian Oil Rigs in response to Iran attacking a reflagged Kuwaiti Tanker. The reason we attcked the oil rigs is because that is whereIran put their missle guidance systems (on a civilian structure). We did give warning to the occupants of the rig to abandon the rigs and then it was destroyed.

You can read more about the mission here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Nimble_Archer (link activated by moderator)

I must have postmarked this cover at about 1am as we were preparing for the mission.

This is the 3rd cover I have found that I have cancelled. Unfortunately all of them are philatelic. I really want to find a "normal" everyday cover mailed from the ship. I actually have quite a few that my parents saved, but that doesn't count in my book.

Bob


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19 Apr 2013
11:41:38am

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as your post notes, it's the history behind the cover that makes it. Lovely Bob.

For myself, I count anything coming from or to my parents (but won't tell yours that they don't count).

thanks for the history refresher

David

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19 Apr 2013
12:13:04pm
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How do you get the link to work?

I first copied the link, then highlighted, then clicked on the link button. The link tags surrounded a totally different part of the message than I highlighted. I then deleted the link tags and the link.

I then put the cursor where I wanted the link tags to go, pressed the link button and again the link tags went to a totally different part of the message.

I then cut and pasted the tags where I wanted them to go, then pasted the link between the the tags. Pressed preview and got an error message.

Then I gave up.

Bob

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19 Apr 2013
01:17:10pm

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i generally go directly to "give up" on the links.

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19 Apr 2013
02:54:36pm
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Bob:

Thanks for the historical background to that cover. You're not just attached to stamp collecting,
you're involved.

John Derry

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19 Apr 2013
05:08:27pm
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Being a stamp collector, notice how nice I cancelled the stamp. Just touching it. Most Navy cover totally obliterate the stamps.

Bob

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19 Apr 2013
07:20:12pm
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I also have difficulty with the link function. I do it the hard way by entering the tags manually: (pretend "{"=the bracket sign)

{link}(FULL web address here),(here enter either name of the site or repeat the web address){/link}

separate the web address and the name of the link with a comma with no other commas or spaces (extra commas or spaces with cause the system to reject the post)


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19 Apr 2013
11:56:44pm
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The USS Hoel, USS Johnson and the USS Samuel B. Roberts came to mind when I saw the topic name. WW II history buffs recognize the names immediately.
They are the three ships (Destroyer and Destroyer Escort) that were lost during the Battle off Samar during the Leyte Gulf affair, after attacking the on coming Japanese cruisers and Battleships, including the IJN Yamato, sacrificing themselves to protect the exposed troops on the beach head.
No disrespect to the later USS Hoel, but what I'd love to find in some naval covers box is one from any sailor serving on the WW II USS HOEL, especially if it were not philatelic.

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20 Apr 2013
11:28:51am
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Charlie,

I have been searching for a USS Hoel DD-533 for some time now. Have not found one.

My ship was commissioned in 1962. In 1987 we had a 25 year celebration. We invited all known living survivors of DD-533 to attend. I believe five made it. One guy got up to talk and he had a huge chunk of metal in his hands. My first thought was how cool, he has a piece of the ship with him. Yeah, he did. it was buried in his leg as he was floating in the middle of the ocean for quite some time watching his friends being eaten by sharks. It really made me appreciate the hell and sacrifices these men went through.

My Dad who was in the Navy during WWII wrote a book called Blood on the Sea (Available on Amazon) about the loss of all 71 Destroyers lost during WWII. The Hoel and Johnson have chapters in that book.

Bob

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20 Apr 2013
02:21:21pm
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I attended High School from 1953-'57. Somewhere during those years the local library acquired "US Destroyer Operations in WW II " written by Theodore Roscoe and when I saw it I was the first to check it out. In fact, I renewed the check-out at least twice before the Librarian insisted I bring it back so someone else could have a chance reading it.
By 1955 I found a copy in a used bookstore in lower Manhattan and bought it for probably less than $10.00, which was a sizable chunk out of my budget in those days but it was worth it to me.
Thirty years later we moved to Florida and for some reason it was stuck in a cabinet on a screened patio and ruined, but I soon found a really nice copy on-line. Besides the four or five times I have read it from end to end during those 50 years, it is a good reference to be used whenever I read some other account of the War at Sea during WW-II. In the early years I re-enacted almost all the actions with a box full of 1::2400 scale lead waterline models. And even to this day, Roscoe's book sits at the corner on my desk between a seldom used dictionary and Roget's Thesaurus.I have to admit that I can now Google the answer to a query a lot faster than my fumbling around with a heavy reference book, but I did drag it to sea with me and we, Roscoe's book and I, circled the globe two or three times so every once in a while I just thumb through it and often become immersed in the stories.
During the years when I was in the Coast Guard.and later the Merchant Marine I managed to visit many of the Pacific islands and waters where the battles and invasions took lace and had the chance to visualize what it must have been like, feeling the way thrugh the blackest nights wondering at what moment a hostile vessel would appear across our bows.

The loss of the USS Reuben James;
http://stamp-collector.co.uk/MachinForum/viewtopic.php?t=444

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