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Mike
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Can't answer this request but here is what one of these stamps looks like:
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I read on another stamp forum that they are listed in SPRINGER'S HANDBOOK OF NORTH AMERICAN CINDERELLA STAMPS VOLUME 10.
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12:26:42pm
Margarine was invented during the late 1800s by a Frenchman and soon came under attack by the dairy industry since it was a less expensive substitute for butter.
In most states, laws were enacted that required it not have the traditional yellow coloring and taxes were added to it's sale. During and right after WW II my parents bought margarine in a plastic-like bag that came with a reddish capsule of coloring.
When the coloring was kneaded into the mix, just as you would knead a ball of flour for homemade bread, the coloring spread and the package took on the butter like coloring.. I remember spending many post shopping trip evenings mixing the coloring and getting the entire mixture evenly yellow.
At some time during the 1950s laws were cancelled and both the tax removed and the coloring being added at the manufacturing plant.
Charlie,
Lecanto, Florida
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Yes Charlie,
I remember mom buying those packets also. They were quite entertaining for a while, mixing the color. Aaaahhh, the good old days. LOL
Thanks Steve for that tip about the Springer. I suppose those are rarer than hen's teeth and just as expensive.
Mike
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I found several of the Springer catalog's listed, but way out of my price range, especially since I don't even collect most of those subjects listed. The whole set of 1 - 10 was listed at $350 if anyone is interested.
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Those "good old days" of colouring margarine by hand only ended last year in the Canadian province of Québec. How soon we forget.
John Derry
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Was the tax stamp for Oleomargarine also used as a honey or sugar tax stamp in Utah?
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06:08:19pm
The ikon used on the Oleo tax stamp looks a bit like an idealized Beehive, which would fit in with Utah's knickname; "The Beehive State".
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didn't Scott used to list Oleomargerine stamps? thought sure i had a Specialized that had them listed. Actually, I have one now . been trying to find the value.
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07:27:32pm
Carl, I have a miscellaneous accumulation of Scott's Specialized going back to 1937 and regular Scott's as old as 1904. There are lots of revenues listed, wines, cordials, cigarettes, perfumes, motor vehicles and so on but all these are Federal revenues.
I don't see any for Oleo or Margarine.
Perhaps the taxes we were discussing were State taxes and wouldn't be listed separately unless they were Federal.
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I know this is an old post. But I am new here. And since no one included The definetive work and catalog (at least for the US) on these, I will. It is Carter Litchfield's History of Oleomargarine Tax Stamps and Licenses in the United States This little gem will set you back around $50 US. I have a few of the Federal Gov't ones If any one has an interest in seeing them.
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I, for one, Eric, would love to see scans.
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Ok, Here you go. These are 5 of the most common encountered. The last one is not mine. But, borrowed from the "Net" (just because it is easier than digging out mine. There is also one for "Colored Oleomargerine" of the 5th type as well.
** Note - Scans are not to scale
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The Springer Catalogs are definitely the best reference catalog, although you can check the index of the last one to see which catalog(s) you need to get for your specific purpose. I think I needed 3 of them for my purposes. You may be able to check them out from APRL. What I did was buy the catalogs I needed, finish my work, and sell them for about what I paid for them.
Lars
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Revstampman & Lars,
Very nice stuff guys. I'd encourage you both to post some approval books if you have dups you don't need, and to consider putting some stuff into the regular auction as well.
Very enjoyable to see.
Best,
Dan C.
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"The Springer Catalogs are definitely the best reference catalog"
For many area's that statment is very true! But, for these the standard reference among revenue collectors is Litchfield.
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Hi Rev, and welcome! I'd be interested in your thoughts on the catalogs one must have if you specialize in US revenues. Is there a resource on the web that gives a good overview?
I have the Springer books (and Scott Specialized), but find there are many other issues not included in his work.
I know this area is specialized, but, is there a good reference for current values?
-Les
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Bluparrot,
Thank You for the welcome.
What area of Revenues are you interested in? (Post or email is fine) If you give me an idea I will email you a list. The same goes for anyone else as well.
To clarify, This is not a solicitation to Buy, Sell or Trade.
I just don't want to clutter up this thread with a literature list that may not be of interest to anyone else. If enough are interested, I will post a new thread of Specilaized Revenue related Literature. Much of which is type and subject specific.
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NOTE: Please use email or SOR messaging for trades, purchases or sales - this includes the negotiation process. Please remember that this section for the board is for discussing stamps, use the Classified section (last 3 sections in the category list) for Buy, Sale, or Trade offers or requests.
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Bobby Barnhart
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Dear Guys,
I would think that putting your thoughts,recommendations and suggestions into a brief article would be of benefit to us all. Personally the reference texts that you are mentioning, and the additional sources cited are very archive worthy I would think.
Best,
Dan C.
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Agree with Dan completely ! Please :-)
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Once again "Ask and ye shall receive" see post titled "List of US Revenue Literature" in the BOB Topic section.
{for ease of navigation, I made the title an active LINK to the thread referenced. Scroll up to the first post in the thread to access the list. Bobby, Moderator}
(Modified by Moderator on 2014-02-24 17:55:23)
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Beautifully done Bobby. Wizard magic stuff!
Dan C.
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Reading this thread brings to mind my childhood--taking a plastic bag, crushing the "button" and 'massaging' the bag of goop to make a butter-like colored gemisch that was oleomargarine. Now we know the margarine is essentially inedible, and we cook with butter. But 60+ years ago, who could afford butter?
Roger
Oh yeah. It had to be sold "white" so as not to confuse the consumer between butter and margarine.
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I know someone has to put out a catalog of these stamps, but I can't seem to find a reference about them, anywhere. Any hints would be appreciated.
Mike
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Can't answer this request but here is what one of these stamps looks like:
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I read on another stamp forum that they are listed in SPRINGER'S HANDBOOK OF NORTH AMERICAN CINDERELLA STAMPS VOLUME 10.
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
12 Apr 2013
12:26:42pm
re: Oleomargarine tax stamps
Margarine was invented during the late 1800s by a Frenchman and soon came under attack by the dairy industry since it was a less expensive substitute for butter.
In most states, laws were enacted that required it not have the traditional yellow coloring and taxes were added to it's sale. During and right after WW II my parents bought margarine in a plastic-like bag that came with a reddish capsule of coloring.
When the coloring was kneaded into the mix, just as you would knead a ball of flour for homemade bread, the coloring spread and the package took on the butter like coloring.. I remember spending many post shopping trip evenings mixing the coloring and getting the entire mixture evenly yellow.
At some time during the 1950s laws were cancelled and both the tax removed and the coloring being added at the manufacturing plant.
Charlie,
Lecanto, Florida
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re: Oleomargarine tax stamps
Yes Charlie,
I remember mom buying those packets also. They were quite entertaining for a while, mixing the color. Aaaahhh, the good old days. LOL
Thanks Steve for that tip about the Springer. I suppose those are rarer than hen's teeth and just as expensive.
Mike
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re: Oleomargarine tax stamps
I found several of the Springer catalog's listed, but way out of my price range, especially since I don't even collect most of those subjects listed. The whole set of 1 - 10 was listed at $350 if anyone is interested.
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The past is a foreign country, they do things different there.
13 Apr 2013
01:42:10pm
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Those "good old days" of colouring margarine by hand only ended last year in the Canadian province of Québec. How soon we forget.
John Derry
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Was the tax stamp for Oleomargarine also used as a honey or sugar tax stamp in Utah?
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
14 Apr 2013
06:08:19pm
re: Oleomargarine tax stamps
The ikon used on the Oleo tax stamp looks a bit like an idealized Beehive, which would fit in with Utah's knickname; "The Beehive State".
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didn't Scott used to list Oleomargerine stamps? thought sure i had a Specialized that had them listed. Actually, I have one now . been trying to find the value.
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
15 Apr 2013
07:27:32pm
re: Oleomargarine tax stamps
Carl, I have a miscellaneous accumulation of Scott's Specialized going back to 1937 and regular Scott's as old as 1904. There are lots of revenues listed, wines, cordials, cigarettes, perfumes, motor vehicles and so on but all these are Federal revenues.
I don't see any for Oleo or Margarine.
Perhaps the taxes we were discussing were State taxes and wouldn't be listed separately unless they were Federal.
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01:07:44pm
re: Oleomargarine tax stamps
I know this is an old post. But I am new here. And since no one included The definetive work and catalog (at least for the US) on these, I will. It is Carter Litchfield's History of Oleomargarine Tax Stamps and Licenses in the United States This little gem will set you back around $50 US. I have a few of the Federal Gov't ones If any one has an interest in seeing them.
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
22 Jan 2014
01:12:47pm
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I, for one, Eric, would love to see scans.
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02:42:13pm
re: Oleomargarine tax stamps
Ok, Here you go. These are 5 of the most common encountered. The last one is not mine. But, borrowed from the "Net" (just because it is easier than digging out mine. There is also one for "Colored Oleomargerine" of the 5th type as well.
** Note - Scans are not to scale
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re: Oleomargarine tax stamps
The Springer Catalogs are definitely the best reference catalog, although you can check the index of the last one to see which catalog(s) you need to get for your specific purpose. I think I needed 3 of them for my purposes. You may be able to check them out from APRL. What I did was buy the catalogs I needed, finish my work, and sell them for about what I paid for them.
Lars
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Revstampman & Lars,
Very nice stuff guys. I'd encourage you both to post some approval books if you have dups you don't need, and to consider putting some stuff into the regular auction as well.
Very enjoyable to see.
Best,
Dan C.
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10:00:51pm
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"The Springer Catalogs are definitely the best reference catalog"
For many area's that statment is very true! But, for these the standard reference among revenue collectors is Litchfield.
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11:13:30pm
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Hi Rev, and welcome! I'd be interested in your thoughts on the catalogs one must have if you specialize in US revenues. Is there a resource on the web that gives a good overview?
I have the Springer books (and Scott Specialized), but find there are many other issues not included in his work.
I know this area is specialized, but, is there a good reference for current values?
-Les
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Bluparrot,
Thank You for the welcome.
What area of Revenues are you interested in? (Post or email is fine) If you give me an idea I will email you a list. The same goes for anyone else as well.
To clarify, This is not a solicitation to Buy, Sell or Trade.
I just don't want to clutter up this thread with a literature list that may not be of interest to anyone else. If enough are interested, I will post a new thread of Specilaized Revenue related Literature. Much of which is type and subject specific.
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22 Jan 2014
11:58:44pm
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NOTE: Please use email or SOR messaging for trades, purchases or sales - this includes the negotiation process. Please remember that this section for the board is for discussing stamps, use the Classified section (last 3 sections in the category list) for Buy, Sale, or Trade offers or requests.
Thank you,
Bobby Barnhart
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re: Oleomargarine tax stamps
Dear Guys,
I would think that putting your thoughts,recommendations and suggestions into a brief article would be of benefit to us all. Personally the reference texts that you are mentioning, and the additional sources cited are very archive worthy I would think.
Best,
Dan C.
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12:00:55am
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Agree with Dan completely ! Please :-)
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03:32:22pm
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Once again "Ask and ye shall receive" see post titled "List of US Revenue Literature" in the BOB Topic section.
{for ease of navigation, I made the title an active LINK to the thread referenced. Scroll up to the first post in the thread to access the list. Bobby, Moderator}
(Modified by Moderator on 2014-02-24 17:55:23)
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Beautifully done Bobby. Wizard magic stuff!
Dan C.
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re: Oleomargarine tax stamps
Reading this thread brings to mind my childhood--taking a plastic bag, crushing the "button" and 'massaging' the bag of goop to make a butter-like colored gemisch that was oleomargarine. Now we know the margarine is essentially inedible, and we cook with butter. But 60+ years ago, who could afford butter?
Roger
Oh yeah. It had to be sold "white" so as not to confuse the consumer between butter and margarine.
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