With the help of Bobby and Terry, we're ready to share our thoughts with you and invite any/all responses.
Members Name Contact Info Catalogs/Resources Available
Dan Cohen cohendaniel64@yahoo.com United States Cancellations
1845-1869 Skinner & Eno
We see the list being filled in with whatever catalog you might have available to share with others. Bobby & Terry will keep a weather eye out to make sure we all play nicely, and their participation is most welcomed.
CDJ suggests that the list should have a note/disclaimer reminding those who use it that it is a effort to help them find something, more or less themselves and not a place to dump every question that crosses their minds.The wording would have to be smoothed out so as to not scare newbies away, but still prevent abusive behavior, especially inadvertent over use.CDJ also suggests that "The program could be started with a specific time limit at which the members involved could decide if it was worth the effort."
So guys & gals, what do you think-should we continue to try a library function or not?
Dan C.
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Hi Dan,
See my post on the previous thread - glad to help if and when I can!
Randy
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Scratch that - see below!
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How about a limit - such as a five stamp I.D. limit per contact......?
I would be willing to be the B.O.B./Revenue contact for U.S.;
I have a Scott Specialized, a Streamside catalog for fish and game stamps (by state),
a Troutman State Revenue Stamp Catalog and a few other misc. helpful books along the same vein.
B.O.B. is my passion - especially revenues!
We just need to let people know to be patient with their queries - some of us still work full-time and it might take a little while to reply.
Randy
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I think a listing of one's catalogs and the catalog years helps everyone know who has what. For example, on another site, a question was raised on the ID of a postal-fiscal stamp from Russia. The person who answered the question stated that those stamps were not listed in Scott. He had a 2007 catalog. In the 2011 catalogs, Scott did start listing Russian postal-fiscal issues. It helps everyone stay coordinated with the information being given out.
I also agree that members need to be considerate and not dump on everyone with alot of stamps needing identification, AND include a picture of the stamp. The catalogs have information to help ID stamps. I think people ought to try to ID a stamp themselves first, then ask when they can't find the answer. That also helps them learn how to use the catalogs.
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I am a member in another forum where members can list literature they own in their profile, similar to listing their collecting interests. I believe this was instituted for bragging rights as much as for enabling members to find other members who could help out with info. Generally speaking, I welcome identification questions that require more than just the Scott catalog posted openly on the discussion board. I always learn from these quesions. Emailing scans back and forth behind the scenes will not benefit other members as much. However, it is a member service and members helping other members is an important aspect of stamporama.
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Michael,
To your point-I think an article like that would be a wonderful addition to our library of articles, and if it's O.K. with Terry and Bobby, we could refer to it from our site (where ever that might be.) Just check with Ralph to be certain we aren't going over old ground.
Good man.
Dan C.
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@ michael78651
I can write this guide right here:
a) read the introduction to the catalog,
b) did you really read the introduction to the catalog?
c) OK, flip to the back of the catalog and use the alphabetical index and identifier;
d) No inscription on the stamp match what is listed? -- OK, use the illustrated identifier.
e) Still can't find it? Start over process at b. one more time -- Sorry, that's how you learn (there is no short cut to learning how to identify stamps, it just takes practice.) f) Nothing, yet? OK, post a question ...
Arno
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I love it! Shoot it over to Bobby & Terry for inclusion on the site somewhere.
Nice Arno.
Dan
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Arno,
I think you should start a new thread under 2 topics, the topic on identifying stamps and the one on catalogs. Title the threads something appropriate for the Topic such as "how to use a catalog" and "How to use catgalog to identify stamps"
Many of the recent questions I read in the past week would have been unnecessary if the collector had the basic knowledge you set out in you post. I remember when I was a beginner (oh so many years ago) and purchased my first catalog. I was a pretty bright kid, but it was still Greek to me! A basic "How to" like you set out would have been ever so helpful.
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Will this list and the article be available from the home page?
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Good one, Arno. 
I think there could be a few more tips beyond the catalog. Not everyone will have a catalog. A similar process can be done with internet search engines. There also are stamp identifier books available. I was thinking of an article that covers more than just the catalogs.
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Bobby,
My short guide was obviously (?) to be taken with a grain of salt and a meant to be funny response to Michael's prior posting. We all know that working the Scott catalog is not as easy as that and there are some helpful hints that could be given (similar looking stamps could be air mails not listed with the regular issue etc.). More power to Michael for offering to put such a guide together! However, it is also true that some problems with finding a stamp in a catalog could actually be solved by reading the catalog.
Now, from my six year experience with stamporama this little side discussion about how to use catalogs within the discussion of what catalog resources are available is likely over. So, I will not follow your suggestion of opening a new discussion for this digression. However, it is also possible that another member responds. This is what we do. We digress. If not for Dan's initial digression in the perfin thread, we would not have this discussion etc. You need to build up some tolerance for that as a freshly minted moderator. 
To get back to the original topic: For some years I have been collecting philatelic books as much as stamps. I have a full set of Scott and Michel catalogs for my country collections. I have most of the standard references for U.S. postmarks (post-1890 to present, i.e., no fancy cancels). That is about sixty volumes. I also have a good number of the standard references on U.S. WWII military mail, and U.S. and German WWI postal history (perhaps thirty books?). Knowing what I know, I can answer probably about 50% of question on U.S. postmark after 1890, about 30% of questions on US WWII, and about 40% of questions on US and German WWI. So, if you have a question in any of these areas, please ask and I may be able to help.
I have a bunch of other books, some areas that I wanted to collect, but did not get into after all (or yet), or just wanted to learn more about. So, I have a few books each in the following areas without claiming major expertise: US and WW meter mail, KuK WWI, Paquebots, German machine cancels, and foreign postal stationary.
Everything else is to random to list.
Arno
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A few years ago, in our little known FAQ section I started a FAQ on stamp identification for beginners. Stamp Identification FAQ Although everything is at a fairly basic level, it covers quite a bit of ground - catalogs, paper types, perfs, watermarks etc. As a FAQ it is intended to be a shared/collaborative effort, so any ideas to enhance or improve it would be most welcome.
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I'm thinking that a link to cogent articles.FAQ and such ought to be part of the Resourcs section. What do you all think?
Dan
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Dan-
I agree that articles should stay with articles. If people do add to the FAQ's, that would be good as well. Can there be a separate link under Resources that would bring us to the page informing people how to appropriately use the guide and then listing the members and their resources? Or is that what you are already thinking?
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That's what I had in mind-Terry-do you think we can do this? (Terry is our librarian for the Resource Board)
Dan
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Terry,
Lisa asks "Will this list and the article be available from the home page?"
What do you think?
Dan
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Terry,
Bobby suggests "I think you should start a new thread under 2 topics, the topic on identifying stamps and the one on catalogs. Title the threads something appropriate for the Topic such as "how to use a catalog" and "How to use catgalog to identify stamps"
Is this something we ought to consider as we set up the library?
Dan
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Just an observation:
My take is that the "persona" of Stamporama is meant to be a comfortable, relaxed environment where beginner, intermediate, and advanced collectors alike can ask questions and share information. This current discussion, sheparded by Dan is the perfect example of this. Regardless of what comes out of this discussion, whether it is a new FAQ, resource list, or database, I hope we leave this thread in place so future "new members" or looky-loos can see what this forum is all about.
Bobby
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Dear Bobby,
Looky-loo's- I love that!
Dan
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I, like Arno, also welcome identification questions. I always do my best to assist on those whenever possible. Our "Can You Identify This?" area is usually one of the first places I check to see if I can help out. I suppose I enjoy 'the hunt'!
Randy
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Since I already provide answers to many questions concerning Machins and the use of the Machin Maniacs bible, "The Complete Deegam Machin Handbook" for the Machin Forum site, I think that I should volunteer to do the same here.
Actually, I have been doing that anyway when such queries pop up.
So put me down as the Machin Docent.
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"Machin Docent" - LOVE IT! A philatelist is never without the correct word for the right situation (even when the word is as archaic as "Docent" LOL).
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Charlie, That's pretty Docent of you to accept that assignment. LOL (sometimes I just crack myself up)
A few years ago I had the "complete Deegam----" but after getting a hernia from using that monster I sold it. I also have many other catalog's available to share with anyone that needs assistance. There are several Michel catalog's, mostly Europe, no German specialized though, a Zumstein, Facit, Yvert & Tellier, JSDA Japanese catalog (this is a wonderful catalog for anyone that collects Japanese stamps), Australia, New Zealand , the ubiquitos Scott's 2009 edition, even a very lousy Chinese catalog (pictures are B & W and hardly of word of English in it. In fact, if there is anyone out there that wants the Chinese catalog, just send me THE word and it's yours, free of charge. Just put your name and address on a $50 bill and send it to me. LOL, seriously NO CHARGE. FCFS.
Mike
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Interesting initiative, let's see what I can contribute:
almost complete set of Michel 2009/2010
Scott 2009
NvPH Netherlands specialized catalogue
OBP Belgium catalogue
Facit (Scandinavia), Sakura (Japan), Lape (Finland), Vlastos (Greece), RHM (Brazil), Unitrade (Canada) and perhaps a few more I cannot recall right now.
Who is going to make a nice list of all the things that are now being written here?
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I have Gibbons Russian Catalog 6th edition and Zagorsky Russia catalogs up to 2010. I will be willing to field any inquiries about russian stamps.
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Hi all
Besides my Tomkins GB perfin catalogue I also have Australian Commercial Perfins,Victorian Government Punctures (perfins)The Railway Letter Stamps of Great Britain & Ireland 1891-1947.Stanley Gibbons part 19 Middle East and a great little book on the Cape of Good Hope triangles (How to tell if your's is real.A 5 minute guide.Which came with a nice selection of facsimiles
Brian
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Greetigs All
I virtually have a library which contains numerous books, clippngs andsome cataloues.
I am not trying to make it look like I am bagging here but I have well over 300 books, numerous print-outs and a collection of clippngs, last count 25,000 pages plus (which I am down-sizing and recycling the paper) that I am trying to organize alphabetically.
To date ths has been an on-going task and will be for a while .
I am willing to share whatever information I have.
Chimo
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Here's what I own:
Scott 1996 US Specialized (print)
Scott 1999 full set(print)
Scott 2009 full set on DVDs
Scott 2003 US Specialized on DVD
Postage stamps of the United States 1847-1959(USPOD print)
Unitrade 2009 Canada Specialized (print)
Darnell Canada EFO catalog (print)
Australia Brusden White 1997 all volumes in one (print)
Minkus US catalog on CD
Stanley Gibbons Stamp Catalogue Commonwealth 1840-1952 (print)
Stanley Gibbons British Commmonwealth 2007 (DVD)
Indian Postage Stamp Catalogue 1947-2011 (CD)
India Post Independence Stamps by S.P.Gupta 1947-2001 (print)
France Ceres catalog on CD
I don't need recent catalogs as most of the information is available online and except for US and Canada I'm not following new issues of other countries.
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I can help with:
1. The Maxwell Catalog for Nicaragua
2. The Bertossa Catalog for Ecuador (up to 1950)
3. Michael Catalogs for Central America and parts of South America
4. A complete set of Album Weeds
5. Several general books on forgeries and and stamp collecting including Fundamentals of Philately by Williams.
Terry
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Here is my list:
Scott Classic Specialized Catalog - 2009
Scott Standard Catalogs Volumes 1-6 - 2013
Scott US Specialized Catalog - 2013
Gibbons Stamps of the World Catalog Volumes 1-5 - 2008
Gibbons Commonwealth & Empire Stamps Catalog - 2008
Gibbons Russia Catalog
Michel Gulf States Catalog - 2006
Michel German Specialized Catalog - 1995
Michel Western Europe Catalog - 1999
Michael Eastern Europe Catalog - 1998
Precancel Stamp Society Bureau Precancel Catalog - 1979
The Serrane Guide
Focus on Forgeries - Tyler
The Stamp Collector's Encyclopedia - Sutton
Scott Specialized Color Guides For United States Stamps
Linns Stamp Identifier
Postage Stamp Design - National Postal Museum
United States Postage Stamps (several volumes from the Post office Department
The Buxton Encyclopedia of Watermarks
A few dozen Linn's Stamp News, American Philatelist and Texas Philatelist magazines
plus some other items lying around...
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Here is my list:
Canada Unitrade - - 2013
Michel Deutschland Spezial - 1999
Gibbons Concise - - 2003
Michel Northrn Europe Edition - - 2002-3
KVPH netherlands Catalog - - 2002
Yvert Tellier France Catalogue - - 1999
Machin Collectors Club Specialised Machin CatalogYear??)
Zeppelin Post Katalog - - 2001
Edifil / Spain - - 2001
Bolaffi Vol. 1 - Italy - - 2000 and Bolaffi Vol. 2 San Marino and The Vatican - 2000
Thomasetti - Ludo Catalogue / Belgian Publibel Cards - -2003
Slogan Postmarks of canada by Cecil Coutts - - 2002
Hibernian Handbook & Catalogue of Ireland - - 2002
Canadian Revenue Catalogue by E.S.J Vandam - - 2009
There are other books but the list would be too long
Chimo
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Okay, All....
I have recorded a total of 87 reference entries from a collection of 11 members. I think this is a terrific start.
I am willing to maintain the listing going forward as members want to add or delete items, and as new members want to list their libraries.
I have compiled them all in an Excel spreadsheet. My question now would be where can we put this listing to the benefit of the membership? Where do we go from here? Can someone offer a suggestion on how this can be integrated into the web site?
Member Reference
dani20 United States Cancellations 1845-1869 by Skinner & Eno
musicman Scott U.S. Specialized Catalog
musicman Streamside Catalog for Fish & Game Stamps by State
musicman Troutman State Revenue Stamp Catalog
cdj1122 The Complete Deegam Machin Handbook
Jansimon Michel Catalog 2009/2010
Jansimon Scott Catalog 2009
Jansimon NvPH Netherlands Specialized Catalog
Jansimon OBP Belgium Catalog
Jansimon Facit Scandinavia Catalog
Jansimon Sakura Japan Catalog
Jansimon Lape Finland Catalog
Jansimon Vlastos Greece Catalog
Jansimon RHM Brazil Catalog
Jansimon Unitrade Canada Catalog
John Macco Gibbons Russian Catalog 6th Edition
John Macco Zagorsky Russia Catalogs thru 2010
snowy12 Tomkins Great Britain Perfin Catalog
snowy12 Australian Commerical Perfins Catalog
snowy12 The Railway Letter Stamps of Great Britain & Ireland 1891-1947
snowy12 Victorian Government Punctures (perfins)
snowy12 Stanley Gibbons part 19 Middle East
snowy12 Cape of Good Hope triangles - How to tell if your's is real
Saleem Scott 1996 US Specialized (print)
Saleem Scott 1999 full set(print)
Saleem Scott 2009 full set on DVDs
Saleem Scott 2003 US Specialized on DVD
Saleem Postage stamps of the United States 1847-1959(USPOD print)
Saleem Unitrade 2009 Canada Specialized (print)
Saleem Darnell Canada EFO catalog (print)
Saleem Australia Brusden White 1997 all volumes in one (print)
Saleem Minkus US catalog on CD
Saleem Stanley Gibbons Stamp Catalogue Commonwealth 1840-1952 (print)
Saleem Stanley Gibbons British Commmonwealth 2007 (DVD)
Saleem Indian Postage Stamp Catalogue 1947-2011 (CD)
Saleem India Post Independence Stamps by S.P.Gupta 1947-2001 (print)
Saleem France Ceres catalog on CD
bulldog Maxwell Catalog for Nicaragua
bulldog Bertossa Catalog for Ecuador (up to 1950)
bulldog Michel Catalogs for Central America and parts of South America
bulldog Album Weeds (Complete Set)
bulldog Fundamentals of Philately by Williams.
michael78651 Scott Classic Specialized Catalog - 2009
michael78652 Scott Standard Catalogs Volumes 1-6 - 2013
michael78653 Scott US Specialized Catalog - 2013
michael78654 Gibbons Stamps of the World Catalog Volumes 1-5 - 2008
michael78655 Gibbons Commonwealth & Empire Stamps Catalog - 2008
michael78656 Gibbons Russia Catalog
michael78657 Michel Gulf States Catalog - 2006
michael78658 Michel German Specialized Catalog - 1995
michael78659 Michel Western Europe Catalog - 1999
michael78660 Michael Eastern Europe Catalog - 1998
michael78661 Precancel Stamp Society Bureau Precancel Catalog - 1979
michael78662 The Serrane Guide
michael78663 Focus on Forgeries - Tyler
michael78664 The Stamp Collector's Encyclopedia - Sutton
michael78665 Scott Specialized Color Guides For United States Stamps
michael78666 Linns Stamp Identifier
michael78667 Postage Stamp Design - National Postal Museum
michael78668 United States Postage Stamps (Post office Department)
michael78669 The Buxton Encyclopedia of Watermarks
Bujutsu Canada Unitrade - - 2013
Bujutsu Michel Deutschland Spezial - 1999
Bujutsu Gibbons Concise - - 2003
Bujutsu Michel Northrn Europe Edition - - 2002-3
Bujutsu KVPH netherlands Catalog - - 2002
Bujutsu Yvert Tellier France Catalogue - - 1999
Bujutsu Machin Collectors Club Specialised Machin Catalog
Bujutsu Zeppelin Post Katalog - - 2001
Bujutsu Edifil / Spain - - 2001
Bujutsu Bolaffi Vol. 1 - Italy - - 2000
Bujutsu Bolaffi Vol. 2 - San Marino and The Vatican - 2000
Bujutsu Thomasetti - Ludo Catalogue / Belgian Publibel Cards - -2003
Bujutsu Slogan Postmarks of canada by Cecil Coutts - - 2002
Bujutsu Hibernian Handbook & Catalogue of Ireland - - 2002
Bujutsu Canadian Revenue Catalogue by E.S.J Vandam - - 2009
terry Scott World Catalog (6-volumes) 2013
terry Scott World Catalog (6-volumes) 2009 CD
terry Sanabria World Airmail catalog 1959-1960 CD
terry Sanabria World Airmail catalog 1966 & 1972 thru 1950 CD
terry French Colonies in the Far East Revenue Catalog 1990 CD
terry Klaseboer World Catalog Vol 1 & Vol 2 (Historical & Forgeries) DVD
terry Sanabria Air Post News Magazines (1935 thru 1947) CD
terry Silombra World Airmail Catalog (French) 1954 CD
terry Stanley Gibbons British Commonwealth thru 1952 (2006) CD
terry Unitrade Canada Catalog 2003
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If you post it in a Discussion Board, it'll disappear. How about adding a link on the Main Menu right after "Contact WebMaster". It could be called "Member Resources". When someone clicks on the link, they'll go to a page that has a brief introduction, and then the list. Were you also thinking of having each member's name hot so that if someone clicked on it, they would open the messaging system and be able to send a question directly to the selected member?
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I now have "Album Weeds, How to Detect Forged Stamps, 3rd Edition" to add to my list of reference material.
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Hey, Michael....
That is a great reference item. I also just obtained the Album Weeds 3rd edition on CD. I also have obtained the following on CD as well:
1) About Abyssinia's Stamps (The Philatelic History up through about 1930)
2) Aero-Stamp Collecting by Melville 1924
3) Catalogue de Timbres-Fiscaux by Forbin 3rd edition 1915
....the quintessential world revenue reference
4) Michel Ubersee Katalog Band 7 - Australien Ozeanien 2010
5) Vade-Mecum du Specialiste-Expert en Timbres-Poste by Fernand Serrane (2-vols)
....also known as the Serrane Guide
6) The Airposts of Colombia by F.W. Kessler 1936 edition
Lots of good reads!
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Just discovered this tread and think it is a great idea. I can add the following to the list:
The Expert's Book, Washington Franklin Issues 1908-1923. Paul Schmid
The Micarelli Guide to United States Stamps. Charles Micarelli
Encyclopedia of The Colors of United States Postal Stamps. Vol I-IV. R. H. White
The United States Postage Stamps of the 19th Century, 3 Vol. Brookman
The 1847 Issue of United States Stamps. Brookman
United States Postage Stamps of the 20th Century. Johl
United States Postage Stamps 1902-1935. Johl
United States Postage Stamps of 1869. Rose
Classic United States Imperforate Stamps. Rose
Post Marks On Post Cards. Richard Helbock
Standard Flag Cancel Encyclopedia. Frederick Langford
Encyclopedia of United States Stamps and Stamp Collecting. Rodney A. Juell & Steven J. Rod Editors.
I also have a large number of various pamphlets and other assorted reference material all having to do with Unites States stamps. If I can be of assistance, please feel free to ask.
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I'm happy to look up values or information. I have several very specialized HK and British Treaty Port references on hand and the entire Scott 2012, 2009, and 2007 catalogues, but the references I'm most asked about and which I reference the most in answering ID questions are:
Webb "The Philatelic and Postal History of Hong Kong and the Treaty Ports of China and Japan"
Proud "Postal History of Hong Kong"
Barefoot "British Commonwealth Revenues (2008)"
Stoneham "Great Britain Stamp Catalogue (14th Ed.)"
Booth "Collect GB First Day Covers (29th Ed.)"
Mellone "US First Day Cover Catalogue and Checklist (2007)"
Stanley Gibbons "Commonwealth and British Empire Stamps 1840-1970 (2011)"
Cheers,
Peter
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Here is my library:
3 volume Brookman (19th Century Stamps)
Volume I of Johl (20th Century through 3rd Bureau)
Armstrong - Coil Issues 1906-1938
Armstrong - Definitives 1922-1938
Furman - 1999 Catalog of US Stamp Booklets
Youngblood - Stamps that Glow
Scott Specialized Color Guides
Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog (2005)
Hebert's Standard Plate Number Single Catalog (2000)
Pepper - Newspaper Stamps 1965-1895
Precancel Society Catalog (2005)
Beecher/Wawrukiewicz - US Domestic Postal Rates 1872-1999
Wawrukiewicz/Beecher - US International Postal Rates 1872-1996
Dietz - Confederate States Catalog (1959)
Baxter - Printing Postage Stamps by Line Engraving (1939) (VERY informative)
Luff - The Postage Stamps of the United States (1902)
Scott Catalogs:
Standard: 1905, 1928, 1945
Specialized US: 1928, 1945, 1959, 1972, 1990, 2008, 2011
Stanley Gibbons US: 2005 (part 22)
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I've been out awhile, so I missed this thread.
If Nigel posted his list, SOR might need to increase its website storage!
Is it too late to add my library? If not, do I simply post it here? I can separate it into 2 lists: catalogs, other reference works.
This is not a hard rule for me if anybody wants to ask questions from my library; but my personal preference is that any questions and answers be posted online when possible. I've learned quite a lot over the years by reading questions/answers posted by others. In addition, it gives others an opportunity to add onto or correct any replies I make. Also, posting makes it accessible to internet search engines -- drawing people to this site. Just my 1c worth.
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I have access to the Northern Philatelic Society's library. While being not comprehensive worldwide, it does have quite a bit of reference material especially in the US and Europe. Other areas of strength are Japan, Mexico and British Commonwealth.
We also have a Forbin catalog, a couple of Sanabria catalogs (1966), some Higgins and Gage catalogs, and a number of periodical collections some of which are yet to be cataloged and bound (or the other way around).
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For those revenue fans out there - I have the Springer catalogs editions 5-10.
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Arbeitsgemeinschaft Jugoslawien/Sudpost Philatelie – many but by no means all issues 1978-2003, 2009-10
Barefoot – Yugoslavia Revenues
Etzold – Yugoslav PO and Telegraph Office list 1931
Flech Handbook Yugoslavia 4 – 1921-41
Flech Handbook Yugoslavia 7 – Baranya/Banat, WW2, Postwar semipostals
Jugoposta – 2005-date
Milanovic – Semi-postals
Milenkovic 1981
Prirucnik 2 – SHS Bosnia/Croatia
Prirucnik 3 – SHS Croatia
Prirucnik 4 – SHS Slovenia
Prirucnik 7 – SHS Slovenia Postage Dues etc
Prirucnik 11 – Bosnia postmarks
SG Balkans 1998
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To add a few of my books here:
Jones Railway Parcel Post Cancellations of Belgium. 2003 ed.
The Postage Stamps of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. Nicholas Argenti, 1976.
The Nova Scotia Post: Its Offices, Masters and Marks, 1700-1867. J.J. MacDonald, 1985.
The Rare Stamp Guide Book: An Encyclopedia of the Rare Stamps of the World. 65th Ed. Vernon E. Baker, 1948.
Standard Handbook of Stamp Collecting. Richard McP. Cabeen. 1979 Revised Ed.
Stanley Gibbons British Empire Catalogue, 1952.
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I really enjoy reading through "The Rare Stamp Guide Book." Everything he has to offer is for "the small sum of $1."
Here are two advertisements amongst others in the book that will give you guys a chuckle.
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David (amsd) this one is for you
Offer Number Ten:
This is a Collection of TWENTY-THREE ALL DIFFERENT of the beautiful and popular Christmas Seals, including one from as FAR BACK AS 1909. This Collection of Seals is one of our most popular sellers, and rightly so, for it is both beautiful and educational, and makes an attractive showing when mounted. Send for this Collection today and you will have something you will be proud of to show your friends. The price is only $1 for the ENTIRE COLLECTION OF TWENTY-THREE ALL DIFFERENT. Price subject to change without notice. Please do not order C.O.D.
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Now here's Offer Number Twelve (this one's a biggie!):
This is a Large Foreign Collection consisting of OVER TWO HUNDRED DIFFERENT UNUSUAL STAMPS from all parts of the World. This Collection is full of portraits from practically every Country on the Globe, from the Far North of Siberia, to the Far South of Australia and the Indian Ocean; from the distant Holy Land, to the far-off South Seas; from the Deserts in North Africa to the diamond mines in South Africa; from War-torn China to the snake-infested jungles of India and the Malay Archipelago; from the cold Northern Wilds of Santa-Claus land to the Southern-most tip of South America; from the palm-fringed Islands in the Caribbean to the Oriental Cities and jungles in the Far East. No two stamps alike, all are different, genuine, and in fine condition. It might take You perhaps a lifetime to gather such a Fine Collection from the old correspondence of your neighbors and friends. Remember, this is a Collection of ALL DIFFERENT stamps, not just a common mixture of many duplicates. Among the famous stamps contained in this BIG Collection are:
1 - OVER A HUNDRED STAMPS from Old Countries of Europe before the war, such as Norway, Holland, Belgium, Austria, Czechoslovakia, France, Denmark, Poland, Danzig, Latvia, Lithuania, Bosnia, Serbia, Estonia, Jugoslavia, Greece, etc.
2 - Stamp issued during the very short reign of King Edward the Eighth of England, who left his throne to marry the American Mrs. Simpson. (The only portrait of this King ever put on a stamp).
3 - Large Blue Stamp 45 years old showing Columbus in sight of land.
4 - A BILLION MARK STAMP of Germany (1,000,000,000). Think of it! A THOUSAND MILLION MARKS is probably one of the largest denomination stamps ever issued.
5 - A beautiful large stamp from an Island in the Caribbean Sea.
6 - An old stamp issued in the 19th Century by the Empire of China, once a great nation.
7 - A Famous "Jubilee" Stamp of Great Britain.
8 - A stamp from Egypt, showing the Sphinx and Pyramid.
9 - An old stamp from Russia, issued before the Revolution, during the Czarist Regime.
10 - A stamp from far-off Ceylon in the Indian Ocean.
11 - A British stamp, almost 100 years old, (one of the World's Earliest Stamps).
12 - A stamp showing Adolph Hitler (it is assumed millions of these were destroyed).
13 - An odd stamp from the Interior of Africa.
14 - An early Canada stamp showing Queen Victoria when young.
15 - A seldom-seen stamp from a Native State in the interior of India.
16 - A stamp from a far-off South Sea Island.
17 - An old stamp from Spain before the Revolution.
18 - A stamp from the Far East Jungles of the Malay Archipelago, showing wild tiger ready for attack.
THINK OF IT! TWO HUNDRED ALL DIFFERENT STAMPS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD including many countries now out of existence, and the price of this Wonderful Collection is only $1. Send for this Collection today and you will have many, many evenings fun and education looking over all these stamps. We will refund if out. Please do not order C.O.D. Sent postpaid at your risk. Insurance 10c extra.
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When I read some of these advertisements, I can't help but think of my own collection. All the "specialised" items - making sure I have MNH, then there are the "perfect" cancellations. All the expenses put into mounting and creating beautiful displays for my collection. And yet, how often do I stop to just look at "simple beauty" as this advertisement suggests? "A wild tiger ready for attack," "Sphinx and Pyramid," etc. I simply put these into Approval Books and call it a day. Or I look at the Chinese stamps he so excitingly advertises and all I see is the insurmountable details listed by Scott in trying to identify one of them.
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Here's one last one for all you US Revenue collectors:
$1000.00
Here is your chance to get something which is seldom seen - a THOUSAND DOLLAR STAMP. Think of it! A Thousand Dollars is the highest priced stamp ever sold by the United States Government.
This is a large orange-colored stamp over 1 1/2 inches tall, used only from 1918 to 1934. To prevent theft of these high-value stamps the Government printed each one with a different number - no two alike - so in getting one of these you will have the only one of its kind in the world! It will be the showpiece of your collection.
We have been lucky enough to secure a small amount of these, taken from old documents, and will sell them as they come at only $1 each, while they last. If sold out your money will be promptly refunded. Sent postpaid, your risk. Insurance 10c extra.
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Granted $1 was a lot of money at the tail end of WWII, but I just find this book and its offers so fascinating. They also had a limited number of US, Foreign and Gold Coins. Apparently the person who owned this book took advantage of that offer because one of the offer coupons is ripped out at the end of the advertisement.
Hope you enjoyed this as much as I do If anyone wants to see some of the other advertisements in there, I'll post them.
Kelly
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Kelly,
i got a great chuckle. Thanks for thinking of me.
Initially, I was thinking why is Kelly offering me seals here; odd place for it. If I hadn't read all the way to the end, puzzled, re-read, you would have had a lot of explaining to do why my dollar didn't get me my promised 23 all different seals.
Early seals were offered at a penny each, so the "value" had quadrupled in the intervening forty years.
Collectors should also note how much better seals retain their value, going at 4c each while stamps were being offered at two for a penny. So, who's the likely Charles Schwabb among us, I ask you.
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LOL - Poor David. I can see you now, sitting beside your mailbox awaiting those seals that will never arrive 
Glad you enjoyed the post though. When I read that one advert, I had to post it for you.
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Kelly, so glad you did. It was enjoyable. and gives me an opportunity to practice working on responses to dashed expectations
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"Kelly, so glad you did. It was enjoyable. and gives me an opportunity to practice working on responses to dashed expectations"
I got that emotion out of my system with all the "lost" millions that Publisher's Clearinghouse never gave me!
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Slowly putting together a list of my reference works.
Here included are the following periodicals:
The Stamp Collectors Magazine - All issues covering 1865-1874.
The Philatelic Record - All issues covering 1879-1914.
American Journal of Philately - 10 issues from the 1868-1876.
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I have a lot of material, but reluctant to list as I am a little confused about why an online forum would encourage offline identification. Offline ID benefits one person, whereas online ID benefits everyone.
I'm not trying to be negative as I'm sure its a worthwhile undertaking to catalog what reference materials members have. Its just that this is the second time I've read through this thread and I'm still lost - I mean I get the offline ID bit, just wondering if there's more I'm missing.
I can think of a couple disadvantages to offline ID if anyone cares (besides the obvious already hinted at earlier in the thread):
1. It could be quite labor intensive in the long run (collectively so to speak) if different folks ask to ID the same things from different people.
2. Having answers online and available to search engines (e.g., Google) is a great way to get new members. In fact, searching for online answers to ID/forgery questions is one way I have developed the list of online links/favorites and the I currently have. Its also been an entree into other forums.
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The answer to this question is found in the recent Rambler newsletter. The goal right now is to compile the list of what members have. We are in the process of gathering this information which will eventually be placed in a very organised manner on a page of its own. Then when a member would like information that can be found in these materials, he or she may either post it on its own thread with a request to the owners of said reference to respond so that all may benefit. Or - privately message an individual but then post the correspondence on a thread so that all may benefit.
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Well, I didn't get a direct answer to my question on whether we should still post the list here, but since others have subsequently posted lists, I guess that means "yes"? I'll post catalogs and books separately.
Here are the catalogs:
ACS New Zealand Stamps (2010)
Afinsa Portugal (2009)
Aland Post (2010)
Alex Kazakhstan (2010 and 2010-2011 supplements)
Alex Uzbekistan (2007)
American Stampless Cover Catalog Vol. 1 (5th Ed)
American Stampless Cover Catalog Vol. 2 (4th Ed)
ATA Handbook #97: The Bicentennial of American Independence 1776-1976 Commemorated on Foreign Stamps
Australia Non-Denominated and Flat Rate Postal Stationery (2007)
Brookman US, UN, & Canada Stamps & Postal Collectibles (1997)
Canadian Stamps with Perforated Initials (2012)
Ceres Catalogue of Postage Stamps -- French Colonies, Vols. A-B (2001)
Chuang Catalogue of Chinese Stamps Issued in Taiwan (1996)
Datz Catalogue of Errors on U.S. Postage Stamps (2003)
Disney Stamp Catalogue (2006)
Domfil Scouting (2000)
Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog (2005)
Edifil Unified Catalog -- Stamps of Spain and Dependencies (2008)
FACIT 2002 Special {Scandinavia}
Fischer Poland Vol. 1
Furman Comprehensive Catalogue of US Stamp Booklets (1999)
Groth WWF Stamp-Catalogue (2001)
Harris Stamps of the US, UN, Canada and Provinces (1976)
KPC-Korean Postage Stamp Catalogue (2002)
Labbe Specialized Guide to Lundy Island Stamps (2008)
Lyapin Catalogue of the Postage Stamps of Russia 1856-1991 (2009)
Lyman British North America Postage Stamp Retail Catalogue (1972)
Majorov Russia Empire Stamp Catalogue (1989)
Марка Ukraine (2009)
Mellone US First Day Cover Catalogue & Checklist (2001)
Michel China (2009-2010)
Michel Egypt (2009)
Michel Europe, Vol. 1 Middle Europe (2006)
Michel Europe, Vol. 2 Southwestern Europe (2006)
Michel Europe, Vol. 3 Southern Europe (2006-2007)
Michel Europe, Vol. 4 Southeastern Europe (2006-2007)
Michel Europe, Vol. 5 Northern Europe (2006-2007)
Michel Europe, Vol. 6 Western Europe (2006-2007)
Michel Europe, Vol. 7 Eastern Europe (2006-2007)
Michel Germany (2005-2006)
Michel Germany Specialized, Vol. 1 (2013)
Michel Germany Specialized, Vol. 2 (2013)
Michel Germany Specialized in English, Part 1 (2007)
Michel Germany Specialized in English, Part 2 (2009)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 1 North & Middle America (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 2 Caribbean Islands (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 3 South America (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 4 North & East Africa (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 5 West Africa (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 6 South & Central Africa (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 7 Australia & Oceania (2006)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 8 South & Southeast Asia (2006)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 9 Middle & East Asia (2006)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 9.1 China (2010)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 10 Near East (2008)
Milanovic Jugoslavia 1933-2007 (2008)
Minkus Standard Catalog of U.S. Stamps (2001)
NVPH Specialized Catalogue of Stamps of Netherlands & Overseas Territories (2001)
Posten Norway (2011)
RHM Stamp Catalogue of Brazil (2008)
SC 1857-1960 Catalogue of Postage Stamps of Russia, RSFSR, USSR (2004)
SC 1992-2010 Catalogue of Postage Stamps of Russia (2011)
Scott Classic Specialized Catalog of Stamps & Covers (2007)
Scott Specialized Catalogue of Canadian Stamps & Covers
Scott Specialized Catalog of United States Stamps & Covers (2013)
Scott Stamp Values U.S. Specialized by Grade (2010 Spring Edition)
Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue, Vols. 1-6 (2011)
SCSS Catalog of NASA Local Post Issues 1967-1977
SCSS Supplementary Catalog 1979-1982
SCSS Souvenir Sheet Catalog (1982)
Sellinger Inverted Center Stamps of the World Catalog (1993)
Sellos Postales Argentina (1998, 1998-2000 Supplement)
SG Catalogue of Commonwealth Plate & Cylinder Varieties 1952-1980
SG Collect Channel Islands Stamps (1983)
SG Commonwealth & British Empire Stamps 1840-1952 (2007)
SG Great Britain Concise Stamp Catalogue (1999)
SG Great Britain Specialised Stamp Catalogue Vol. 1: Queen Victoria (1979)
SG Great Britain Specialised Stamp Catalogue Vol. 3: Queen Elizabeth II Pre-decimal Issues (1980)
SG Great Britain Specialised Stamp Catalogue Vol. 4: Queen Elizabeth II Decimal Issues (1981)
SG King George VI Stamp Catalog (2001)
SG Postage Stamps of the U.S. Issued during the 20th Century 1901-1918 (1918)
SG Stamp Catalogue Part 1: Commonwealth & British Empire Stamps 1840-1952 (2007)
Soloviev Postage Stamps of Russia & USSR, Vol. 2 Zemstvo (2009)
Stamp Market Quarterly (Apr-Jun 2008)
Unitrade Specialized Catalogue of Canadian Stamps (2012)
USPS Guide to U.S. Stamps (1988)
USPS United States Stamps & Stories (1978)
VST Comprehensive Colour Catalogue of Australian Stamps (1999)
Walden Catalogue of Nuclear Explosions on Stamps
Yang Postage Stamp & Postal History Catalogue of Hong Kong (2004)
Yang Postage Stamp Catalogue of the People’s Republic of China (Liberated Area) (1991)
Yang Postage Stamp Catalogue of the People’s Republic of China (Part II) (2004)
Y&T Stamp Catalogue, Vol. 1 Stamps of France, Andorra, Europa, Monaco, U.N. (1987)
Y&T Stamps of France, Vol. 1 (2010)
My library is open for your reference.
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Here are the books (journals, articles, sales catalogs… not included):
The Adhesive Postage Stamp = by Patrick Chalmers
Album Weeds = by R. E. Earée
Argentina 1935-1951 Definitives Regular Issue Review = by Antonio Rubiera
The Australian Commonwealth King George Halfpenny = by Dix and Rowntree
Black Jacks of 1863-1867 = by Maurice F. Cole
Blue Mauritius = by Helen Morgan
Billig’s Handbook on Postmars Vol. 9: British Postmarks = by F. Hugh Vallancey
Bishop Marks = by Allan Oliver
The Brunswick Star = by James Arnot
Canada: Its Postage Stamps and Postage Stationery = by Clifton Armstrong Howes
Canadian Philately -- An Outline = by Burnett, Scrimgeour, and Willson
Canal Zone Postage Stamps = publ. by Canal Zone Postal Service
Cancellations and Killers of the Banknote Era 1870-1894 = by James M. Cole
A Catalog of Non-standard US Postmarks = by Stehle and DeRoest
Checklist from Field Guide to the Cinderella Stamps of Canada (May 2012) = R. G. Lafreniere
Chinese-English Glossary of Philatelic Terms = from Story-Post
Commonwealth of Australia the Line Engraved Issues of 1914… = by Maj. H. Dormer Legge
The Congress Book 2011 = ed. by Kenneth Trettin
Dealer’s Guide to Chemical Restoration of Postage Stamps = from National Stamp Service
Errors, Freaks and Oddities on U. S. Stamps = by Dr. Stanley B. Segal
Exploring the Fascinating World of Stamps = from South African Post Office
The First Philatelist? = by K. Bileski
Focus on Forgeries = by Varro E. Tyler
Gambia = by Frederick John Melville
GPS Forgery Manual
Great Britain’s First Postage Stamp = by Ernest S. Gladstone
Guide Lines to the Penny Black = by P. C. Litchfield
A Guide to GRADING and EXPERTIZING United States Stamps (2007) = by Williams A. Litle and Michael W. Sherman
Guide to Japanese Occupation Stamps (1942-45) = publ. by Singapore Stamp Club
A Guide to U.S. Design Numbers 1847-1947 = publ. by Professional Stamp Experts
Handbook on U.S. Luminescent Stamps (1972) = by Alfred G. Boerger
Harry F. Allen Collection of Black Jacks = by Maryette B. Lane
Heligoland = by Allan Oliver
History of the Postage Stamps of the United States = by John Kerr Tiffany
How to Detect Damaged, Altered, and Repaired Stamps = by Paul W. Schmid
An Introduction to Revenue Stamps = by Bill J. Castenholz
Letters of Gold -- California Postal History through 1869 = by Jesse L. Coburn
Linn’s World Stamp Almanac, 5th Edition = publ. by Amos Press
List of Post Offices in the United States 1862 = by Theron Wierenga
London Postmarks Used on Printed Matter and Parcels from 1860 = by Kurt N. Fernau, trans. by P. E. Robinson
Michel Stamp Catalogue -- An Introduction for English-speaking Readers = publ. by Michel
The Mystery of the Shilling Green = by Fred J. Melville
Mystic’s Guide to Stamp Collecting (rev5/11) = publ. by Mystic
New York Postmaster's Provisional = by Stanley M. Pillar
The 1d King George V Australian Commonwealth Stamps = by D. M. Neil
One Penny Stamps = from Her Majesty’s Stationery Office
Peeps at Postage Stamps = by Stanley Currie Johnson
The Postage Stamp in War = by Frederick John Melville
Postage Stamps of the United States 1847-1959 = publ. by US Post Office Department
The Posted Letter in Colonial & Revolutionary America = by Alex L. ter Braake
Reorganisation of the Post Office = from Her Majesty’s Stationery Office
Repairs of the 1841 One Penny Plates 1-40, Revised = by J. W. M. Stone
Simpson’s U.S. Postal Markings 1851-61 (2nd Ed) = by Thomas J. Alexander
Stamp Collecting as a Pastime = by Edward James Nankivell
The Stamp Collector -- A Guide to the World’s Postage Stamps = by Stanley Currie Johnson
The Stamps of Canada = by Bertram William Henry Poole
Standard Handbook of Stamp Collecting, Rev. Ed. = by Richard McP. Cabeen
SG Great Britain Numbers Issued 1840 to 1910 = by Rikki Hyde
The 3c Stamp of the US 1851-1857 Issue, revised = by Carroll Chase
Triangular Philatelics = by Chris Green
United States Cancellations 1845-1869 = by Hubert C. Skinner & Amos Eno
The United States One Cent Stamp of 1851 to 1861 = by Mortimer L. Neinken
The United States One Cent Stamp of 1851-1857 = by Stanley B. Ashbrook
The United States Postage Stamps of the 19th Century Vols. 1-3 = by Lester G. Brookman
The United States Ten Cent Stamps of 1855-1589 = by Mortimer L. Neinken
United States The 1851-57 Twelve Cent Stamp = by Mortimer L. Neinken
US Three Cent 1851 Essays for Postage Stamps (And Related Topics) = by Roy Weber
What Philately Teaches = by John N. Luff
World Forgery Catalogue = by G. Kock
Again, my library is open for your reference.
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Kim, you are a one-man philatelic library!
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That is awesome. Thanks.
Can you tell me what category is Album Weeds? It's been listed by a few members but I am not familiar with it and I don't know what category it should be placed under.
To answer your question - If you wish to send me a direct list via SOR message or to my email address in my profile, that would be fine as well. There is are a lot of references I need to go through to get them categorised so that we can make it a clear list available to members. While I'm working on that (which will be temporarily postponed due to my surgery next week), go ahead and continue posting on this thread. That way members can take advantage of the references materials others have to offer.
Again: For those who are inquiring of material offered by a member - please post your inquiry in its own thread under appropriate category on the discussion board with a reference to the owner(s) of the material. Then send a private message to the owner(s) of the material to let them know you have posted your inquiry. For the benefit of all members, the inquiry should be responded to within the thread on the discussion board.
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The full title is actually "Album Weeds or How to Detect Forged Stamps". So it is a book on early forgeries. It was compiled in 1882, so it only covers the early forgeries.
Kelly, keeping your upcoming surgery in prayer -- get well first!
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03:46:26pm
Oh that's perfect. I was stuck looking at the categories of Catalogues, Forgeries, General Reference and thinking huh? LOL Thanks for clarifying that.
And thank you for the prayers for next week. Every prayer is needed
Kelly
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Kim,
That is a very impressive library! I have a few of your reference books, but there is one I did not see in your list that I consider a top 5 in my very limited library:
Baxter - Printing Postage Stamps by Line Engraving (1939)
They can be had used on Amazon for $12 plus $4 shipping.
Perhaps drop a last minute Father's Day hint?
Lars
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Thanks, Lars! I'll keep it in mind.
My guess is that those Amazon books are the 1982 reprint. From what I understand, the 1939 1st edition is sort of a collector's item. While a brand new 1982 reprint can be easily had for under $20, the original 1939s are typically closer to $100. As far as I know, the content is the same.
So many catalogs and books to get, so little space and time (not to mention money).
There's a big civil war going on between my catalogs/books/journals and my stamps right now. The catalogs have the advantage of weight, but the stamps have the overwhelming numbers...
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Kim, you are correct that the price quoted is for the reprint, but the value is in the content! Having said that, with a bit of patience and persistence you may also be able to add a first edition to your library for not much more. There are 550 out there to be had! (I own #471 of 550). Buy-It-Now on eBay is $300 (or best offer) with FREE shipping for #51 of 550. What a deal!!!
But seriously, get the reprint and READ it. Then try to find a first edition for investment value.
Lars
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Lars, that's great that you got one of the 1st Editions! You are correct, that with patience you can definitely get one of the 1st Editions for under $50. The $300 BIN -- no comment.
I'm not the investing kind of person when it comes to collectibles. I'd almost certainly get one of reprints unless one of the 1st Editions shows up in a Penny Auction. Sigh... the good ol' days.
Thanks again for the suggestion!
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Dear All,
With the help of Bobby and Terry, we're ready to share our thoughts with you and invite any/all responses.
Members Name Contact Info Catalogs/Resources Available
Dan Cohen cohendaniel64@yahoo.com United States Cancellations
1845-1869 Skinner & Eno
We see the list being filled in with whatever catalog you might have available to share with others. Bobby & Terry will keep a weather eye out to make sure we all play nicely, and their participation is most welcomed.
CDJ suggests that the list should have a note/disclaimer reminding those who use it that it is a effort to help them find something, more or less themselves and not a place to dump every question that crosses their minds.The wording would have to be smoothed out so as to not scare newbies away, but still prevent abusive behavior, especially inadvertent over use.CDJ also suggests that "The program could be started with a specific time limit at which the members involved could decide if it was worth the effort."
So guys & gals, what do you think-should we continue to try a library function or not?
Dan C.
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Hi Dan,
See my post on the previous thread - glad to help if and when I can!
Randy
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How about a limit - such as a five stamp I.D. limit per contact......?
I would be willing to be the B.O.B./Revenue contact for U.S.;
I have a Scott Specialized, a Streamside catalog for fish and game stamps (by state),
a Troutman State Revenue Stamp Catalog and a few other misc. helpful books along the same vein.
B.O.B. is my passion - especially revenues!
We just need to let people know to be patient with their queries - some of us still work full-time and it might take a little while to reply.
Randy
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I think a listing of one's catalogs and the catalog years helps everyone know who has what. For example, on another site, a question was raised on the ID of a postal-fiscal stamp from Russia. The person who answered the question stated that those stamps were not listed in Scott. He had a 2007 catalog. In the 2011 catalogs, Scott did start listing Russian postal-fiscal issues. It helps everyone stay coordinated with the information being given out.
I also agree that members need to be considerate and not dump on everyone with alot of stamps needing identification, AND include a picture of the stamp. The catalogs have information to help ID stamps. I think people ought to try to ID a stamp themselves first, then ask when they can't find the answer. That also helps them learn how to use the catalogs.
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I am a member in another forum where members can list literature they own in their profile, similar to listing their collecting interests. I believe this was instituted for bragging rights as much as for enabling members to find other members who could help out with info. Generally speaking, I welcome identification questions that require more than just the Scott catalog posted openly on the discussion board. I always learn from these quesions. Emailing scans back and forth behind the scenes will not benefit other members as much. However, it is a member service and members helping other members is an important aspect of stamporama.
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Michael,
To your point-I think an article like that would be a wonderful addition to our library of articles, and if it's O.K. with Terry and Bobby, we could refer to it from our site (where ever that might be.) Just check with Ralph to be certain we aren't going over old ground.
Good man.
Dan C.
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@ michael78651
I can write this guide right here:
a) read the introduction to the catalog,
b) did you really read the introduction to the catalog?
c) OK, flip to the back of the catalog and use the alphabetical index and identifier;
d) No inscription on the stamp match what is listed? -- OK, use the illustrated identifier.
e) Still can't find it? Start over process at b. one more time -- Sorry, that's how you learn (there is no short cut to learning how to identify stamps, it just takes practice.) f) Nothing, yet? OK, post a question ...
Arno
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I love it! Shoot it over to Bobby & Terry for inclusion on the site somewhere.
Nice Arno.
Dan
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02 Feb 2013
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Arno,
I think you should start a new thread under 2 topics, the topic on identifying stamps and the one on catalogs. Title the threads something appropriate for the Topic such as "how to use a catalog" and "How to use catgalog to identify stamps"
Many of the recent questions I read in the past week would have been unnecessary if the collector had the basic knowledge you set out in you post. I remember when I was a beginner (oh so many years ago) and purchased my first catalog. I was a pretty bright kid, but it was still Greek to me! A basic "How to" like you set out would have been ever so helpful.
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02 Feb 2013
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Will this list and the article be available from the home page?
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Good one, Arno.
I think there could be a few more tips beyond the catalog. Not everyone will have a catalog. A similar process can be done with internet search engines. There also are stamp identifier books available. I was thinking of an article that covers more than just the catalogs.
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Bobby,
My short guide was obviously (?) to be taken with a grain of salt and a meant to be funny response to Michael's prior posting. We all know that working the Scott catalog is not as easy as that and there are some helpful hints that could be given (similar looking stamps could be air mails not listed with the regular issue etc.). More power to Michael for offering to put such a guide together! However, it is also true that some problems with finding a stamp in a catalog could actually be solved by reading the catalog.
Now, from my six year experience with stamporama this little side discussion about how to use catalogs within the discussion of what catalog resources are available is likely over. So, I will not follow your suggestion of opening a new discussion for this digression. However, it is also possible that another member responds. This is what we do. We digress. If not for Dan's initial digression in the perfin thread, we would not have this discussion etc. You need to build up some tolerance for that as a freshly minted moderator.
To get back to the original topic: For some years I have been collecting philatelic books as much as stamps. I have a full set of Scott and Michel catalogs for my country collections. I have most of the standard references for U.S. postmarks (post-1890 to present, i.e., no fancy cancels). That is about sixty volumes. I also have a good number of the standard references on U.S. WWII military mail, and U.S. and German WWI postal history (perhaps thirty books?). Knowing what I know, I can answer probably about 50% of question on U.S. postmark after 1890, about 30% of questions on US WWII, and about 40% of questions on US and German WWI. So, if you have a question in any of these areas, please ask and I may be able to help.
I have a bunch of other books, some areas that I wanted to collect, but did not get into after all (or yet), or just wanted to learn more about. So, I have a few books each in the following areas without claiming major expertise: US and WW meter mail, KuK WWI, Paquebots, German machine cancels, and foreign postal stationary.
Everything else is to random to list.
Arno
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A few years ago, in our little known FAQ section I started a FAQ on stamp identification for beginners. Stamp Identification FAQ Although everything is at a fairly basic level, it covers quite a bit of ground - catalogs, paper types, perfs, watermarks etc. As a FAQ it is intended to be a shared/collaborative effort, so any ideas to enhance or improve it would be most welcome.
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I'm thinking that a link to cogent articles.FAQ and such ought to be part of the Resourcs section. What do you all think?
Dan
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Dan-
I agree that articles should stay with articles. If people do add to the FAQ's, that would be good as well. Can there be a separate link under Resources that would bring us to the page informing people how to appropriately use the guide and then listing the members and their resources? Or is that what you are already thinking?
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That's what I had in mind-Terry-do you think we can do this? (Terry is our librarian for the Resource Board)
Dan
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Terry,
Lisa asks "Will this list and the article be available from the home page?"
What do you think?
Dan
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Terry,
Bobby suggests "I think you should start a new thread under 2 topics, the topic on identifying stamps and the one on catalogs. Title the threads something appropriate for the Topic such as "how to use a catalog" and "How to use catgalog to identify stamps"
Is this something we ought to consider as we set up the library?
Dan
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03 Feb 2013
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Just an observation:
My take is that the "persona" of Stamporama is meant to be a comfortable, relaxed environment where beginner, intermediate, and advanced collectors alike can ask questions and share information. This current discussion, sheparded by Dan is the perfect example of this. Regardless of what comes out of this discussion, whether it is a new FAQ, resource list, or database, I hope we leave this thread in place so future "new members" or looky-loos can see what this forum is all about.
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Dear Bobby,
Looky-loo's- I love that!
Dan
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I, like Arno, also welcome identification questions. I always do my best to assist on those whenever possible. Our "Can You Identify This?" area is usually one of the first places I check to see if I can help out. I suppose I enjoy 'the hunt'!
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Since I already provide answers to many questions concerning Machins and the use of the Machin Maniacs bible, "The Complete Deegam Machin Handbook" for the Machin Forum site, I think that I should volunteer to do the same here.
Actually, I have been doing that anyway when such queries pop up.
So put me down as the Machin Docent.
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"Machin Docent" - LOVE IT! A philatelist is never without the correct word for the right situation (even when the word is as archaic as "Docent" LOL).
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Charlie, That's pretty Docent of you to accept that assignment. LOL (sometimes I just crack myself up)
A few years ago I had the "complete Deegam----" but after getting a hernia from using that monster I sold it. I also have many other catalog's available to share with anyone that needs assistance. There are several Michel catalog's, mostly Europe, no German specialized though, a Zumstein, Facit, Yvert & Tellier, JSDA Japanese catalog (this is a wonderful catalog for anyone that collects Japanese stamps), Australia, New Zealand , the ubiquitos Scott's 2009 edition, even a very lousy Chinese catalog (pictures are B & W and hardly of word of English in it. In fact, if there is anyone out there that wants the Chinese catalog, just send me THE word and it's yours, free of charge. Just put your name and address on a $50 bill and send it to me. LOL, seriously NO CHARGE. FCFS.
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Interesting initiative, let's see what I can contribute:
almost complete set of Michel 2009/2010
Scott 2009
NvPH Netherlands specialized catalogue
OBP Belgium catalogue
Facit (Scandinavia), Sakura (Japan), Lape (Finland), Vlastos (Greece), RHM (Brazil), Unitrade (Canada) and perhaps a few more I cannot recall right now.
Who is going to make a nice list of all the things that are now being written here?
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I have Gibbons Russian Catalog 6th edition and Zagorsky Russia catalogs up to 2010. I will be willing to field any inquiries about russian stamps.
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Hi all
Besides my Tomkins GB perfin catalogue I also have Australian Commercial Perfins,Victorian Government Punctures (perfins)The Railway Letter Stamps of Great Britain & Ireland 1891-1947.Stanley Gibbons part 19 Middle East and a great little book on the Cape of Good Hope triangles (How to tell if your's is real.A 5 minute guide.Which came with a nice selection of facsimiles
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Greetigs All
I virtually have a library which contains numerous books, clippngs andsome cataloues.
I am not trying to make it look like I am bagging here but I have well over 300 books, numerous print-outs and a collection of clippngs, last count 25,000 pages plus (which I am down-sizing and recycling the paper) that I am trying to organize alphabetically.
To date ths has been an on-going task and will be for a while .
I am willing to share whatever information I have.
Chimo
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Here's what I own:
Scott 1996 US Specialized (print)
Scott 1999 full set(print)
Scott 2009 full set on DVDs
Scott 2003 US Specialized on DVD
Postage stamps of the United States 1847-1959(USPOD print)
Unitrade 2009 Canada Specialized (print)
Darnell Canada EFO catalog (print)
Australia Brusden White 1997 all volumes in one (print)
Minkus US catalog on CD
Stanley Gibbons Stamp Catalogue Commonwealth 1840-1952 (print)
Stanley Gibbons British Commmonwealth 2007 (DVD)
Indian Postage Stamp Catalogue 1947-2011 (CD)
India Post Independence Stamps by S.P.Gupta 1947-2001 (print)
France Ceres catalog on CD
I don't need recent catalogs as most of the information is available online and except for US and Canada I'm not following new issues of other countries.
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I can help with:
1. The Maxwell Catalog for Nicaragua
2. The Bertossa Catalog for Ecuador (up to 1950)
3. Michael Catalogs for Central America and parts of South America
4. A complete set of Album Weeds
5. Several general books on forgeries and and stamp collecting including Fundamentals of Philately by Williams.
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Here is my list:
Scott Classic Specialized Catalog - 2009
Scott Standard Catalogs Volumes 1-6 - 2013
Scott US Specialized Catalog - 2013
Gibbons Stamps of the World Catalog Volumes 1-5 - 2008
Gibbons Commonwealth & Empire Stamps Catalog - 2008
Gibbons Russia Catalog
Michel Gulf States Catalog - 2006
Michel German Specialized Catalog - 1995
Michel Western Europe Catalog - 1999
Michael Eastern Europe Catalog - 1998
Precancel Stamp Society Bureau Precancel Catalog - 1979
The Serrane Guide
Focus on Forgeries - Tyler
The Stamp Collector's Encyclopedia - Sutton
Scott Specialized Color Guides For United States Stamps
Linns Stamp Identifier
Postage Stamp Design - National Postal Museum
United States Postage Stamps (several volumes from the Post office Department
The Buxton Encyclopedia of Watermarks
A few dozen Linn's Stamp News, American Philatelist and Texas Philatelist magazines
plus some other items lying around...
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Here is my list:
Canada Unitrade - - 2013
Michel Deutschland Spezial - 1999
Gibbons Concise - - 2003
Michel Northrn Europe Edition - - 2002-3
KVPH netherlands Catalog - - 2002
Yvert Tellier France Catalogue - - 1999
Machin Collectors Club Specialised Machin CatalogYear??)
Zeppelin Post Katalog - - 2001
Edifil / Spain - - 2001
Bolaffi Vol. 1 - Italy - - 2000 and Bolaffi Vol. 2 San Marino and The Vatican - 2000
Thomasetti - Ludo Catalogue / Belgian Publibel Cards - -2003
Slogan Postmarks of canada by Cecil Coutts - - 2002
Hibernian Handbook & Catalogue of Ireland - - 2002
Canadian Revenue Catalogue by E.S.J Vandam - - 2009
There are other books but the list would be too long
Chimo
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Okay, All....
I have recorded a total of 87 reference entries from a collection of 11 members. I think this is a terrific start.
I am willing to maintain the listing going forward as members want to add or delete items, and as new members want to list their libraries.
I have compiled them all in an Excel spreadsheet. My question now would be where can we put this listing to the benefit of the membership? Where do we go from here? Can someone offer a suggestion on how this can be integrated into the web site?
Member Reference
dani20 United States Cancellations 1845-1869 by Skinner & Eno
musicman Scott U.S. Specialized Catalog
musicman Streamside Catalog for Fish & Game Stamps by State
musicman Troutman State Revenue Stamp Catalog
cdj1122 The Complete Deegam Machin Handbook
Jansimon Michel Catalog 2009/2010
Jansimon Scott Catalog 2009
Jansimon NvPH Netherlands Specialized Catalog
Jansimon OBP Belgium Catalog
Jansimon Facit Scandinavia Catalog
Jansimon Sakura Japan Catalog
Jansimon Lape Finland Catalog
Jansimon Vlastos Greece Catalog
Jansimon RHM Brazil Catalog
Jansimon Unitrade Canada Catalog
John Macco Gibbons Russian Catalog 6th Edition
John Macco Zagorsky Russia Catalogs thru 2010
snowy12 Tomkins Great Britain Perfin Catalog
snowy12 Australian Commerical Perfins Catalog
snowy12 The Railway Letter Stamps of Great Britain & Ireland 1891-1947
snowy12 Victorian Government Punctures (perfins)
snowy12 Stanley Gibbons part 19 Middle East
snowy12 Cape of Good Hope triangles - How to tell if your's is real
Saleem Scott 1996 US Specialized (print)
Saleem Scott 1999 full set(print)
Saleem Scott 2009 full set on DVDs
Saleem Scott 2003 US Specialized on DVD
Saleem Postage stamps of the United States 1847-1959(USPOD print)
Saleem Unitrade 2009 Canada Specialized (print)
Saleem Darnell Canada EFO catalog (print)
Saleem Australia Brusden White 1997 all volumes in one (print)
Saleem Minkus US catalog on CD
Saleem Stanley Gibbons Stamp Catalogue Commonwealth 1840-1952 (print)
Saleem Stanley Gibbons British Commmonwealth 2007 (DVD)
Saleem Indian Postage Stamp Catalogue 1947-2011 (CD)
Saleem India Post Independence Stamps by S.P.Gupta 1947-2001 (print)
Saleem France Ceres catalog on CD
bulldog Maxwell Catalog for Nicaragua
bulldog Bertossa Catalog for Ecuador (up to 1950)
bulldog Michel Catalogs for Central America and parts of South America
bulldog Album Weeds (Complete Set)
bulldog Fundamentals of Philately by Williams.
michael78651 Scott Classic Specialized Catalog - 2009
michael78652 Scott Standard Catalogs Volumes 1-6 - 2013
michael78653 Scott US Specialized Catalog - 2013
michael78654 Gibbons Stamps of the World Catalog Volumes 1-5 - 2008
michael78655 Gibbons Commonwealth & Empire Stamps Catalog - 2008
michael78656 Gibbons Russia Catalog
michael78657 Michel Gulf States Catalog - 2006
michael78658 Michel German Specialized Catalog - 1995
michael78659 Michel Western Europe Catalog - 1999
michael78660 Michael Eastern Europe Catalog - 1998
michael78661 Precancel Stamp Society Bureau Precancel Catalog - 1979
michael78662 The Serrane Guide
michael78663 Focus on Forgeries - Tyler
michael78664 The Stamp Collector's Encyclopedia - Sutton
michael78665 Scott Specialized Color Guides For United States Stamps
michael78666 Linns Stamp Identifier
michael78667 Postage Stamp Design - National Postal Museum
michael78668 United States Postage Stamps (Post office Department)
michael78669 The Buxton Encyclopedia of Watermarks
Bujutsu Canada Unitrade - - 2013
Bujutsu Michel Deutschland Spezial - 1999
Bujutsu Gibbons Concise - - 2003
Bujutsu Michel Northrn Europe Edition - - 2002-3
Bujutsu KVPH netherlands Catalog - - 2002
Bujutsu Yvert Tellier France Catalogue - - 1999
Bujutsu Machin Collectors Club Specialised Machin Catalog
Bujutsu Zeppelin Post Katalog - - 2001
Bujutsu Edifil / Spain - - 2001
Bujutsu Bolaffi Vol. 1 - Italy - - 2000
Bujutsu Bolaffi Vol. 2 - San Marino and The Vatican - 2000
Bujutsu Thomasetti - Ludo Catalogue / Belgian Publibel Cards - -2003
Bujutsu Slogan Postmarks of canada by Cecil Coutts - - 2002
Bujutsu Hibernian Handbook & Catalogue of Ireland - - 2002
Bujutsu Canadian Revenue Catalogue by E.S.J Vandam - - 2009
terry Scott World Catalog (6-volumes) 2013
terry Scott World Catalog (6-volumes) 2009 CD
terry Sanabria World Airmail catalog 1959-1960 CD
terry Sanabria World Airmail catalog 1966 & 1972 thru 1950 CD
terry French Colonies in the Far East Revenue Catalog 1990 CD
terry Klaseboer World Catalog Vol 1 & Vol 2 (Historical & Forgeries) DVD
terry Sanabria Air Post News Magazines (1935 thru 1947) CD
terry Silombra World Airmail Catalog (French) 1954 CD
terry Stanley Gibbons British Commonwealth thru 1952 (2006) CD
terry Unitrade Canada Catalog 2003
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If you post it in a Discussion Board, it'll disappear. How about adding a link on the Main Menu right after "Contact WebMaster". It could be called "Member Resources". When someone clicks on the link, they'll go to a page that has a brief introduction, and then the list. Were you also thinking of having each member's name hot so that if someone clicked on it, they would open the messaging system and be able to send a question directly to the selected member?
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I now have "Album Weeds, How to Detect Forged Stamps, 3rd Edition" to add to my list of reference material.
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Hey, Michael....
That is a great reference item. I also just obtained the Album Weeds 3rd edition on CD. I also have obtained the following on CD as well:
1) About Abyssinia's Stamps (The Philatelic History up through about 1930)
2) Aero-Stamp Collecting by Melville 1924
3) Catalogue de Timbres-Fiscaux by Forbin 3rd edition 1915
....the quintessential world revenue reference
4) Michel Ubersee Katalog Band 7 - Australien Ozeanien 2010
5) Vade-Mecum du Specialiste-Expert en Timbres-Poste by Fernand Serrane (2-vols)
....also known as the Serrane Guide
6) The Airposts of Colombia by F.W. Kessler 1936 edition
Lots of good reads!
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Just discovered this tread and think it is a great idea. I can add the following to the list:
The Expert's Book, Washington Franklin Issues 1908-1923. Paul Schmid
The Micarelli Guide to United States Stamps. Charles Micarelli
Encyclopedia of The Colors of United States Postal Stamps. Vol I-IV. R. H. White
The United States Postage Stamps of the 19th Century, 3 Vol. Brookman
The 1847 Issue of United States Stamps. Brookman
United States Postage Stamps of the 20th Century. Johl
United States Postage Stamps 1902-1935. Johl
United States Postage Stamps of 1869. Rose
Classic United States Imperforate Stamps. Rose
Post Marks On Post Cards. Richard Helbock
Standard Flag Cancel Encyclopedia. Frederick Langford
Encyclopedia of United States Stamps and Stamp Collecting. Rodney A. Juell & Steven J. Rod Editors.
I also have a large number of various pamphlets and other assorted reference material all having to do with Unites States stamps. If I can be of assistance, please feel free to ask.
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I'm happy to look up values or information. I have several very specialized HK and British Treaty Port references on hand and the entire Scott 2012, 2009, and 2007 catalogues, but the references I'm most asked about and which I reference the most in answering ID questions are:
Webb "The Philatelic and Postal History of Hong Kong and the Treaty Ports of China and Japan"
Proud "Postal History of Hong Kong"
Barefoot "British Commonwealth Revenues (2008)"
Stoneham "Great Britain Stamp Catalogue (14th Ed.)"
Booth "Collect GB First Day Covers (29th Ed.)"
Mellone "US First Day Cover Catalogue and Checklist (2007)"
Stanley Gibbons "Commonwealth and British Empire Stamps 1840-1970 (2011)"
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Peter
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Here is my library:
3 volume Brookman (19th Century Stamps)
Volume I of Johl (20th Century through 3rd Bureau)
Armstrong - Coil Issues 1906-1938
Armstrong - Definitives 1922-1938
Furman - 1999 Catalog of US Stamp Booklets
Youngblood - Stamps that Glow
Scott Specialized Color Guides
Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog (2005)
Hebert's Standard Plate Number Single Catalog (2000)
Pepper - Newspaper Stamps 1965-1895
Precancel Society Catalog (2005)
Beecher/Wawrukiewicz - US Domestic Postal Rates 1872-1999
Wawrukiewicz/Beecher - US International Postal Rates 1872-1996
Dietz - Confederate States Catalog (1959)
Baxter - Printing Postage Stamps by Line Engraving (1939) (VERY informative)
Luff - The Postage Stamps of the United States (1902)
Scott Catalogs:
Standard: 1905, 1928, 1945
Specialized US: 1928, 1945, 1959, 1972, 1990, 2008, 2011
Stanley Gibbons US: 2005 (part 22)
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I've been out awhile, so I missed this thread.
If Nigel posted his list, SOR might need to increase its website storage!
Is it too late to add my library? If not, do I simply post it here? I can separate it into 2 lists: catalogs, other reference works.
This is not a hard rule for me if anybody wants to ask questions from my library; but my personal preference is that any questions and answers be posted online when possible. I've learned quite a lot over the years by reading questions/answers posted by others. In addition, it gives others an opportunity to add onto or correct any replies I make. Also, posting makes it accessible to internet search engines -- drawing people to this site. Just my 1c worth.
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I have access to the Northern Philatelic Society's library. While being not comprehensive worldwide, it does have quite a bit of reference material especially in the US and Europe. Other areas of strength are Japan, Mexico and British Commonwealth.
We also have a Forbin catalog, a couple of Sanabria catalogs (1966), some Higgins and Gage catalogs, and a number of periodical collections some of which are yet to be cataloged and bound (or the other way around).
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For those revenue fans out there - I have the Springer catalogs editions 5-10.
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Arbeitsgemeinschaft Jugoslawien/Sudpost Philatelie – many but by no means all issues 1978-2003, 2009-10
Barefoot – Yugoslavia Revenues
Etzold – Yugoslav PO and Telegraph Office list 1931
Flech Handbook Yugoslavia 4 – 1921-41
Flech Handbook Yugoslavia 7 – Baranya/Banat, WW2, Postwar semipostals
Jugoposta – 2005-date
Milanovic – Semi-postals
Milenkovic 1981
Prirucnik 2 – SHS Bosnia/Croatia
Prirucnik 3 – SHS Croatia
Prirucnik 4 – SHS Slovenia
Prirucnik 7 – SHS Slovenia Postage Dues etc
Prirucnik 11 – Bosnia postmarks
SG Balkans 1998
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To add a few of my books here:
Jones Railway Parcel Post Cancellations of Belgium. 2003 ed.
The Postage Stamps of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. Nicholas Argenti, 1976.
The Nova Scotia Post: Its Offices, Masters and Marks, 1700-1867. J.J. MacDonald, 1985.
The Rare Stamp Guide Book: An Encyclopedia of the Rare Stamps of the World. 65th Ed. Vernon E. Baker, 1948.
Standard Handbook of Stamp Collecting. Richard McP. Cabeen. 1979 Revised Ed.
Stanley Gibbons British Empire Catalogue, 1952.
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I really enjoy reading through "The Rare Stamp Guide Book." Everything he has to offer is for "the small sum of $1."
Here are two advertisements amongst others in the book that will give you guys a chuckle.
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David (amsd) this one is for you
Offer Number Ten:
This is a Collection of TWENTY-THREE ALL DIFFERENT of the beautiful and popular Christmas Seals, including one from as FAR BACK AS 1909. This Collection of Seals is one of our most popular sellers, and rightly so, for it is both beautiful and educational, and makes an attractive showing when mounted. Send for this Collection today and you will have something you will be proud of to show your friends. The price is only $1 for the ENTIRE COLLECTION OF TWENTY-THREE ALL DIFFERENT. Price subject to change without notice. Please do not order C.O.D.
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Now here's Offer Number Twelve (this one's a biggie!):
This is a Large Foreign Collection consisting of OVER TWO HUNDRED DIFFERENT UNUSUAL STAMPS from all parts of the World. This Collection is full of portraits from practically every Country on the Globe, from the Far North of Siberia, to the Far South of Australia and the Indian Ocean; from the distant Holy Land, to the far-off South Seas; from the Deserts in North Africa to the diamond mines in South Africa; from War-torn China to the snake-infested jungles of India and the Malay Archipelago; from the cold Northern Wilds of Santa-Claus land to the Southern-most tip of South America; from the palm-fringed Islands in the Caribbean to the Oriental Cities and jungles in the Far East. No two stamps alike, all are different, genuine, and in fine condition. It might take You perhaps a lifetime to gather such a Fine Collection from the old correspondence of your neighbors and friends. Remember, this is a Collection of ALL DIFFERENT stamps, not just a common mixture of many duplicates. Among the famous stamps contained in this BIG Collection are:
1 - OVER A HUNDRED STAMPS from Old Countries of Europe before the war, such as Norway, Holland, Belgium, Austria, Czechoslovakia, France, Denmark, Poland, Danzig, Latvia, Lithuania, Bosnia, Serbia, Estonia, Jugoslavia, Greece, etc.
2 - Stamp issued during the very short reign of King Edward the Eighth of England, who left his throne to marry the American Mrs. Simpson. (The only portrait of this King ever put on a stamp).
3 - Large Blue Stamp 45 years old showing Columbus in sight of land.
4 - A BILLION MARK STAMP of Germany (1,000,000,000). Think of it! A THOUSAND MILLION MARKS is probably one of the largest denomination stamps ever issued.
5 - A beautiful large stamp from an Island in the Caribbean Sea.
6 - An old stamp issued in the 19th Century by the Empire of China, once a great nation.
7 - A Famous "Jubilee" Stamp of Great Britain.
8 - A stamp from Egypt, showing the Sphinx and Pyramid.
9 - An old stamp from Russia, issued before the Revolution, during the Czarist Regime.
10 - A stamp from far-off Ceylon in the Indian Ocean.
11 - A British stamp, almost 100 years old, (one of the World's Earliest Stamps).
12 - A stamp showing Adolph Hitler (it is assumed millions of these were destroyed).
13 - An odd stamp from the Interior of Africa.
14 - An early Canada stamp showing Queen Victoria when young.
15 - A seldom-seen stamp from a Native State in the interior of India.
16 - A stamp from a far-off South Sea Island.
17 - An old stamp from Spain before the Revolution.
18 - A stamp from the Far East Jungles of the Malay Archipelago, showing wild tiger ready for attack.
THINK OF IT! TWO HUNDRED ALL DIFFERENT STAMPS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD including many countries now out of existence, and the price of this Wonderful Collection is only $1. Send for this Collection today and you will have many, many evenings fun and education looking over all these stamps. We will refund if out. Please do not order C.O.D. Sent postpaid at your risk. Insurance 10c extra.
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When I read some of these advertisements, I can't help but think of my own collection. All the "specialised" items - making sure I have MNH, then there are the "perfect" cancellations. All the expenses put into mounting and creating beautiful displays for my collection. And yet, how often do I stop to just look at "simple beauty" as this advertisement suggests? "A wild tiger ready for attack," "Sphinx and Pyramid," etc. I simply put these into Approval Books and call it a day. Or I look at the Chinese stamps he so excitingly advertises and all I see is the insurmountable details listed by Scott in trying to identify one of them.
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Here's one last one for all you US Revenue collectors:
$1000.00
Here is your chance to get something which is seldom seen - a THOUSAND DOLLAR STAMP. Think of it! A Thousand Dollars is the highest priced stamp ever sold by the United States Government.
This is a large orange-colored stamp over 1 1/2 inches tall, used only from 1918 to 1934. To prevent theft of these high-value stamps the Government printed each one with a different number - no two alike - so in getting one of these you will have the only one of its kind in the world! It will be the showpiece of your collection.
We have been lucky enough to secure a small amount of these, taken from old documents, and will sell them as they come at only $1 each, while they last. If sold out your money will be promptly refunded. Sent postpaid, your risk. Insurance 10c extra.
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Granted $1 was a lot of money at the tail end of WWII, but I just find this book and its offers so fascinating. They also had a limited number of US, Foreign and Gold Coins. Apparently the person who owned this book took advantage of that offer because one of the offer coupons is ripped out at the end of the advertisement.
Hope you enjoyed this as much as I do If anyone wants to see some of the other advertisements in there, I'll post them.
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Kelly,
i got a great chuckle. Thanks for thinking of me.
Initially, I was thinking why is Kelly offering me seals here; odd place for it. If I hadn't read all the way to the end, puzzled, re-read, you would have had a lot of explaining to do why my dollar didn't get me my promised 23 all different seals.
Early seals were offered at a penny each, so the "value" had quadrupled in the intervening forty years.
Collectors should also note how much better seals retain their value, going at 4c each while stamps were being offered at two for a penny. So, who's the likely Charles Schwabb among us, I ask you.
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LOL - Poor David. I can see you now, sitting beside your mailbox awaiting those seals that will never arrive
Glad you enjoyed the post though. When I read that one advert, I had to post it for you.
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Kelly, so glad you did. It was enjoyable. and gives me an opportunity to practice working on responses to dashed expectations
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"Kelly, so glad you did. It was enjoyable. and gives me an opportunity to practice working on responses to dashed expectations"
I got that emotion out of my system with all the "lost" millions that Publisher's Clearinghouse never gave me!
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Slowly putting together a list of my reference works.
Here included are the following periodicals:
The Stamp Collectors Magazine - All issues covering 1865-1874.
The Philatelic Record - All issues covering 1879-1914.
American Journal of Philately - 10 issues from the 1868-1876.
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I have a lot of material, but reluctant to list as I am a little confused about why an online forum would encourage offline identification. Offline ID benefits one person, whereas online ID benefits everyone.
I'm not trying to be negative as I'm sure its a worthwhile undertaking to catalog what reference materials members have. Its just that this is the second time I've read through this thread and I'm still lost - I mean I get the offline ID bit, just wondering if there's more I'm missing.
I can think of a couple disadvantages to offline ID if anyone cares (besides the obvious already hinted at earlier in the thread):
1. It could be quite labor intensive in the long run (collectively so to speak) if different folks ask to ID the same things from different people.
2. Having answers online and available to search engines (e.g., Google) is a great way to get new members. In fact, searching for online answers to ID/forgery questions is one way I have developed the list of online links/favorites and the I currently have. Its also been an entree into other forums.
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The answer to this question is found in the recent Rambler newsletter. The goal right now is to compile the list of what members have. We are in the process of gathering this information which will eventually be placed in a very organised manner on a page of its own. Then when a member would like information that can be found in these materials, he or she may either post it on its own thread with a request to the owners of said reference to respond so that all may benefit. Or - privately message an individual but then post the correspondence on a thread so that all may benefit.
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Well, I didn't get a direct answer to my question on whether we should still post the list here, but since others have subsequently posted lists, I guess that means "yes"? I'll post catalogs and books separately.
Here are the catalogs:
ACS New Zealand Stamps (2010)
Afinsa Portugal (2009)
Aland Post (2010)
Alex Kazakhstan (2010 and 2010-2011 supplements)
Alex Uzbekistan (2007)
American Stampless Cover Catalog Vol. 1 (5th Ed)
American Stampless Cover Catalog Vol. 2 (4th Ed)
ATA Handbook #97: The Bicentennial of American Independence 1776-1976 Commemorated on Foreign Stamps
Australia Non-Denominated and Flat Rate Postal Stationery (2007)
Brookman US, UN, & Canada Stamps & Postal Collectibles (1997)
Canadian Stamps with Perforated Initials (2012)
Ceres Catalogue of Postage Stamps -- French Colonies, Vols. A-B (2001)
Chuang Catalogue of Chinese Stamps Issued in Taiwan (1996)
Datz Catalogue of Errors on U.S. Postage Stamps (2003)
Disney Stamp Catalogue (2006)
Domfil Scouting (2000)
Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog (2005)
Edifil Unified Catalog -- Stamps of Spain and Dependencies (2008)
FACIT 2002 Special {Scandinavia}
Fischer Poland Vol. 1
Furman Comprehensive Catalogue of US Stamp Booklets (1999)
Groth WWF Stamp-Catalogue (2001)
Harris Stamps of the US, UN, Canada and Provinces (1976)
KPC-Korean Postage Stamp Catalogue (2002)
Labbe Specialized Guide to Lundy Island Stamps (2008)
Lyapin Catalogue of the Postage Stamps of Russia 1856-1991 (2009)
Lyman British North America Postage Stamp Retail Catalogue (1972)
Majorov Russia Empire Stamp Catalogue (1989)
Марка Ukraine (2009)
Mellone US First Day Cover Catalogue & Checklist (2001)
Michel China (2009-2010)
Michel Egypt (2009)
Michel Europe, Vol. 1 Middle Europe (2006)
Michel Europe, Vol. 2 Southwestern Europe (2006)
Michel Europe, Vol. 3 Southern Europe (2006-2007)
Michel Europe, Vol. 4 Southeastern Europe (2006-2007)
Michel Europe, Vol. 5 Northern Europe (2006-2007)
Michel Europe, Vol. 6 Western Europe (2006-2007)
Michel Europe, Vol. 7 Eastern Europe (2006-2007)
Michel Germany (2005-2006)
Michel Germany Specialized, Vol. 1 (2013)
Michel Germany Specialized, Vol. 2 (2013)
Michel Germany Specialized in English, Part 1 (2007)
Michel Germany Specialized in English, Part 2 (2009)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 1 North & Middle America (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 2 Caribbean Islands (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 3 South America (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 4 North & East Africa (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 5 West Africa (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 6 South & Central Africa (2007)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 7 Australia & Oceania (2006)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 8 South & Southeast Asia (2006)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 9 Middle & East Asia (2006)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 9.1 China (2010)
Michel Overseas, Vol. 10 Near East (2008)
Milanovic Jugoslavia 1933-2007 (2008)
Minkus Standard Catalog of U.S. Stamps (2001)
NVPH Specialized Catalogue of Stamps of Netherlands & Overseas Territories (2001)
Posten Norway (2011)
RHM Stamp Catalogue of Brazil (2008)
SC 1857-1960 Catalogue of Postage Stamps of Russia, RSFSR, USSR (2004)
SC 1992-2010 Catalogue of Postage Stamps of Russia (2011)
Scott Classic Specialized Catalog of Stamps & Covers (2007)
Scott Specialized Catalogue of Canadian Stamps & Covers
Scott Specialized Catalog of United States Stamps & Covers (2013)
Scott Stamp Values U.S. Specialized by Grade (2010 Spring Edition)
Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue, Vols. 1-6 (2011)
SCSS Catalog of NASA Local Post Issues 1967-1977
SCSS Supplementary Catalog 1979-1982
SCSS Souvenir Sheet Catalog (1982)
Sellinger Inverted Center Stamps of the World Catalog (1993)
Sellos Postales Argentina (1998, 1998-2000 Supplement)
SG Catalogue of Commonwealth Plate & Cylinder Varieties 1952-1980
SG Collect Channel Islands Stamps (1983)
SG Commonwealth & British Empire Stamps 1840-1952 (2007)
SG Great Britain Concise Stamp Catalogue (1999)
SG Great Britain Specialised Stamp Catalogue Vol. 1: Queen Victoria (1979)
SG Great Britain Specialised Stamp Catalogue Vol. 3: Queen Elizabeth II Pre-decimal Issues (1980)
SG Great Britain Specialised Stamp Catalogue Vol. 4: Queen Elizabeth II Decimal Issues (1981)
SG King George VI Stamp Catalog (2001)
SG Postage Stamps of the U.S. Issued during the 20th Century 1901-1918 (1918)
SG Stamp Catalogue Part 1: Commonwealth & British Empire Stamps 1840-1952 (2007)
Soloviev Postage Stamps of Russia & USSR, Vol. 2 Zemstvo (2009)
Stamp Market Quarterly (Apr-Jun 2008)
Unitrade Specialized Catalogue of Canadian Stamps (2012)
USPS Guide to U.S. Stamps (1988)
USPS United States Stamps & Stories (1978)
VST Comprehensive Colour Catalogue of Australian Stamps (1999)
Walden Catalogue of Nuclear Explosions on Stamps
Yang Postage Stamp & Postal History Catalogue of Hong Kong (2004)
Yang Postage Stamp Catalogue of the People’s Republic of China (Liberated Area) (1991)
Yang Postage Stamp Catalogue of the People’s Republic of China (Part II) (2004)
Y&T Stamp Catalogue, Vol. 1 Stamps of France, Andorra, Europa, Monaco, U.N. (1987)
Y&T Stamps of France, Vol. 1 (2010)
My library is open for your reference.
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Here are the books (journals, articles, sales catalogs… not included):
The Adhesive Postage Stamp = by Patrick Chalmers
Album Weeds = by R. E. Earée
Argentina 1935-1951 Definitives Regular Issue Review = by Antonio Rubiera
The Australian Commonwealth King George Halfpenny = by Dix and Rowntree
Black Jacks of 1863-1867 = by Maurice F. Cole
Blue Mauritius = by Helen Morgan
Billig’s Handbook on Postmars Vol. 9: British Postmarks = by F. Hugh Vallancey
Bishop Marks = by Allan Oliver
The Brunswick Star = by James Arnot
Canada: Its Postage Stamps and Postage Stationery = by Clifton Armstrong Howes
Canadian Philately -- An Outline = by Burnett, Scrimgeour, and Willson
Canal Zone Postage Stamps = publ. by Canal Zone Postal Service
Cancellations and Killers of the Banknote Era 1870-1894 = by James M. Cole
A Catalog of Non-standard US Postmarks = by Stehle and DeRoest
Checklist from Field Guide to the Cinderella Stamps of Canada (May 2012) = R. G. Lafreniere
Chinese-English Glossary of Philatelic Terms = from Story-Post
Commonwealth of Australia the Line Engraved Issues of 1914… = by Maj. H. Dormer Legge
The Congress Book 2011 = ed. by Kenneth Trettin
Dealer’s Guide to Chemical Restoration of Postage Stamps = from National Stamp Service
Errors, Freaks and Oddities on U. S. Stamps = by Dr. Stanley B. Segal
Exploring the Fascinating World of Stamps = from South African Post Office
The First Philatelist? = by K. Bileski
Focus on Forgeries = by Varro E. Tyler
Gambia = by Frederick John Melville
GPS Forgery Manual
Great Britain’s First Postage Stamp = by Ernest S. Gladstone
Guide Lines to the Penny Black = by P. C. Litchfield
A Guide to GRADING and EXPERTIZING United States Stamps (2007) = by Williams A. Litle and Michael W. Sherman
Guide to Japanese Occupation Stamps (1942-45) = publ. by Singapore Stamp Club
A Guide to U.S. Design Numbers 1847-1947 = publ. by Professional Stamp Experts
Handbook on U.S. Luminescent Stamps (1972) = by Alfred G. Boerger
Harry F. Allen Collection of Black Jacks = by Maryette B. Lane
Heligoland = by Allan Oliver
History of the Postage Stamps of the United States = by John Kerr Tiffany
How to Detect Damaged, Altered, and Repaired Stamps = by Paul W. Schmid
An Introduction to Revenue Stamps = by Bill J. Castenholz
Letters of Gold -- California Postal History through 1869 = by Jesse L. Coburn
Linn’s World Stamp Almanac, 5th Edition = publ. by Amos Press
List of Post Offices in the United States 1862 = by Theron Wierenga
London Postmarks Used on Printed Matter and Parcels from 1860 = by Kurt N. Fernau, trans. by P. E. Robinson
Michel Stamp Catalogue -- An Introduction for English-speaking Readers = publ. by Michel
The Mystery of the Shilling Green = by Fred J. Melville
Mystic’s Guide to Stamp Collecting (rev5/11) = publ. by Mystic
New York Postmaster's Provisional = by Stanley M. Pillar
The 1d King George V Australian Commonwealth Stamps = by D. M. Neil
One Penny Stamps = from Her Majesty’s Stationery Office
Peeps at Postage Stamps = by Stanley Currie Johnson
The Postage Stamp in War = by Frederick John Melville
Postage Stamps of the United States 1847-1959 = publ. by US Post Office Department
The Posted Letter in Colonial & Revolutionary America = by Alex L. ter Braake
Reorganisation of the Post Office = from Her Majesty’s Stationery Office
Repairs of the 1841 One Penny Plates 1-40, Revised = by J. W. M. Stone
Simpson’s U.S. Postal Markings 1851-61 (2nd Ed) = by Thomas J. Alexander
Stamp Collecting as a Pastime = by Edward James Nankivell
The Stamp Collector -- A Guide to the World’s Postage Stamps = by Stanley Currie Johnson
The Stamps of Canada = by Bertram William Henry Poole
Standard Handbook of Stamp Collecting, Rev. Ed. = by Richard McP. Cabeen
SG Great Britain Numbers Issued 1840 to 1910 = by Rikki Hyde
The 3c Stamp of the US 1851-1857 Issue, revised = by Carroll Chase
Triangular Philatelics = by Chris Green
United States Cancellations 1845-1869 = by Hubert C. Skinner & Amos Eno
The United States One Cent Stamp of 1851 to 1861 = by Mortimer L. Neinken
The United States One Cent Stamp of 1851-1857 = by Stanley B. Ashbrook
The United States Postage Stamps of the 19th Century Vols. 1-3 = by Lester G. Brookman
The United States Ten Cent Stamps of 1855-1589 = by Mortimer L. Neinken
United States The 1851-57 Twelve Cent Stamp = by Mortimer L. Neinken
US Three Cent 1851 Essays for Postage Stamps (And Related Topics) = by Roy Weber
What Philately Teaches = by John N. Luff
World Forgery Catalogue = by G. Kock
Again, my library is open for your reference.
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10 Jun 2014
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Kim, you are a one-man philatelic library!
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10 Jun 2014
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That is awesome. Thanks.
Can you tell me what category is Album Weeds? It's been listed by a few members but I am not familiar with it and I don't know what category it should be placed under.
To answer your question - If you wish to send me a direct list via SOR message or to my email address in my profile, that would be fine as well. There is are a lot of references I need to go through to get them categorised so that we can make it a clear list available to members. While I'm working on that (which will be temporarily postponed due to my surgery next week), go ahead and continue posting on this thread. That way members can take advantage of the references materials others have to offer.
Again: For those who are inquiring of material offered by a member - please post your inquiry in its own thread under appropriate category on the discussion board with a reference to the owner(s) of the material. Then send a private message to the owner(s) of the material to let them know you have posted your inquiry. For the benefit of all members, the inquiry should be responded to within the thread on the discussion board.
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The full title is actually "Album Weeds or How to Detect Forged Stamps". So it is a book on early forgeries. It was compiled in 1882, so it only covers the early forgeries.
Kelly, keeping your upcoming surgery in prayer -- get well first!
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Oh that's perfect. I was stuck looking at the categories of Catalogues, Forgeries, General Reference and thinking huh? LOL Thanks for clarifying that.
And thank you for the prayers for next week. Every prayer is needed
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Kim,
That is a very impressive library! I have a few of your reference books, but there is one I did not see in your list that I consider a top 5 in my very limited library:
Baxter - Printing Postage Stamps by Line Engraving (1939)
They can be had used on Amazon for $12 plus $4 shipping.
Perhaps drop a last minute Father's Day hint?
Lars
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Thanks, Lars! I'll keep it in mind.
My guess is that those Amazon books are the 1982 reprint. From what I understand, the 1939 1st edition is sort of a collector's item. While a brand new 1982 reprint can be easily had for under $20, the original 1939s are typically closer to $100. As far as I know, the content is the same.
So many catalogs and books to get, so little space and time (not to mention money).
There's a big civil war going on between my catalogs/books/journals and my stamps right now. The catalogs have the advantage of weight, but the stamps have the overwhelming numbers...
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Kim, you are correct that the price quoted is for the reprint, but the value is in the content! Having said that, with a bit of patience and persistence you may also be able to add a first edition to your library for not much more. There are 550 out there to be had! (I own #471 of 550). Buy-It-Now on eBay is $300 (or best offer) with FREE shipping for #51 of 550. What a deal!!!
But seriously, get the reprint and READ it. Then try to find a first edition for investment value.
Lars
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Lars, that's great that you got one of the 1st Editions! You are correct, that with patience you can definitely get one of the 1st Editions for under $50. The $300 BIN -- no comment.
I'm not the investing kind of person when it comes to collectibles. I'd almost certainly get one of reprints unless one of the 1st Editions shows up in a Penny Auction. Sigh... the good ol' days.
Thanks again for the suggestion!
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