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Latin America/All : Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

 

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tuscany4me
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28 Sep 2012
12:22:42pm
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I purchased this last month I think. Wondering.... after browsing the topic of "Selling Fakes."

When I received it, it looked fake to me, but I like it. It looks as if someone "scanned" a smaller photo and then enlarged it to make this mini sheet. Note the "rope" going around the frame.

What do you think?

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michael78651

28 Sep 2012
07:28:35pm
re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

Looks nice.

Many countries have issued stamps this year honoring the Titanic and the event that took so many lives.

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28 Sep 2012
08:20:54pm
re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

Looks really nice - a great addition to a collection of Titanic issues.

In regards to the cinderella vs real stamps - I have a number of cinderella issues of "If Hitler had won the war" - of course they're not real but they make a nice addition to my Reich collection.

Sometimes people add postcards or things related to the topic of their collection, so whether it is a postage stamp, first day cover or a franked cover, the collection can also include postcards or cinderellas that add somewhat of an historical or just "artwork" to your collection. Likewise you'll see some collections which include both genuine and known forgeries. In my Nova Scotia collection, I collect both the NS issues and many different forgeries or genuine issues with forged cancellations - for me it just adds a different spin to my collection that makes it more complete in my mind.

This Titanic issue does look really nice

Kelly

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29 Sep 2012
12:27:51am
re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?



This is a beautiful 4 stamp sheet, issued by Grenada in 2011, commemorating the 100th anniversary of the Titanic. This sheet features 4 circular stamps depicting Titanic sinking, Captain Edward J. Smith, a family awaiting survivors and survivors arriving at the docks.

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29 Sep 2012
02:51:18am
re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

It is not just a rhetorical construct to ask what constitutes "real" in your mind.
It is genuine paper.
It was genuinely printed somewhere.
It commemorates a genuine incident that cost over a thousand innocent people their lives and can be connected to several different countries.
The results did really have an effect on the shipping industry worldwide, such as the Safety at Sea Conventions (SOLAS)and the standardization of several lifesaving principles.

It certainly is an attractive printing but there are several questions that should be considered and understood.
Is it a genuine postage stamp ?
Each collector is free to set the height of the bar that qualifies what they collect and recognize as legitimate postage issues for themselves.
While Grenada is a real Caribbean island with status as a legitimate entity, in my mind, to be genuine it should be on sale within that national boundary and actually available for citizens to use as postage. The proof of that would be actual examples of the minisheet used as regular postage on cover or singles removed from that sheetlet used on regular mail.
For almost fifteen years the APS struggled to act as an authority in determining which printings were postal paper and which were contrived souvenirs, ( The Black Blot Program. ) only to retire in defeat as the flood of the latter burst over the philatelic dikes.
So the better question would be; "Is it real to you ?"

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joshtanski
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29 Sep 2012
08:59:34am
re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

For Grenada, the modern stamps I've seen postally used in kiloware are the small bird series issued in 2000 (scott 3011-3024) or occasionally the large butterfly stamps of 1994 (scott 2375-2386B). The rest I do not recall seeing much, and also my sources of good genuine postally used kiloware have dried up over the past couple years.

Josh


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PeterG
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29 Sep 2012
10:10:39am
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Sources of good genuine postally used kiloware HAVE dried up to a good extent Josh, but you may raise a good question there. If any, the few that actually carried letters were probably sent to philatelists

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Bujutsu
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02 Oct 2012
01:03:34pm
re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

Grenada is notorius for issuing stamps en mass on any given subject. I think too, in the 1970s, that country was also 'black-blotted' by some of the major stamp papers / magazines at the time for that reason (?)

Chimo

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02 Oct 2012
04:36:27pm
re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

I wouldn´t wonder if they were

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tuscany4me

28 Sep 2012
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I purchased this last month I think. Wondering.... after browsing the topic of "Selling Fakes."

When I received it, it looked fake to me, but I like it. It looks as if someone "scanned" a smaller photo and then enlarged it to make this mini sheet. Note the "rope" going around the frame.

What do you think?

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michael78651

28 Sep 2012
07:28:35pm

re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

Looks nice.

Many countries have issued stamps this year honoring the Titanic and the event that took so many lives.

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28 Sep 2012
08:20:54pm

re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

Looks really nice - a great addition to a collection of Titanic issues.

In regards to the cinderella vs real stamps - I have a number of cinderella issues of "If Hitler had won the war" - of course they're not real but they make a nice addition to my Reich collection.

Sometimes people add postcards or things related to the topic of their collection, so whether it is a postage stamp, first day cover or a franked cover, the collection can also include postcards or cinderellas that add somewhat of an historical or just "artwork" to your collection. Likewise you'll see some collections which include both genuine and known forgeries. In my Nova Scotia collection, I collect both the NS issues and many different forgeries or genuine issues with forged cancellations - for me it just adds a different spin to my collection that makes it more complete in my mind.

This Titanic issue does look really nice

Kelly

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lpayette

29 Sep 2012
12:27:51am

re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?



This is a beautiful 4 stamp sheet, issued by Grenada in 2011, commemorating the 100th anniversary of the Titanic. This sheet features 4 circular stamps depicting Titanic sinking, Captain Edward J. Smith, a family awaiting survivors and survivors arriving at the docks.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
29 Sep 2012
02:51:18am

re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

It is not just a rhetorical construct to ask what constitutes "real" in your mind.
It is genuine paper.
It was genuinely printed somewhere.
It commemorates a genuine incident that cost over a thousand innocent people their lives and can be connected to several different countries.
The results did really have an effect on the shipping industry worldwide, such as the Safety at Sea Conventions (SOLAS)and the standardization of several lifesaving principles.

It certainly is an attractive printing but there are several questions that should be considered and understood.
Is it a genuine postage stamp ?
Each collector is free to set the height of the bar that qualifies what they collect and recognize as legitimate postage issues for themselves.
While Grenada is a real Caribbean island with status as a legitimate entity, in my mind, to be genuine it should be on sale within that national boundary and actually available for citizens to use as postage. The proof of that would be actual examples of the minisheet used as regular postage on cover or singles removed from that sheetlet used on regular mail.
For almost fifteen years the APS struggled to act as an authority in determining which printings were postal paper and which were contrived souvenirs, ( The Black Blot Program. ) only to retire in defeat as the flood of the latter burst over the philatelic dikes.
So the better question would be; "Is it real to you ?"

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joshtanski

29 Sep 2012
08:59:34am

re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

For Grenada, the modern stamps I've seen postally used in kiloware are the small bird series issued in 2000 (scott 3011-3024) or occasionally the large butterfly stamps of 1994 (scott 2375-2386B). The rest I do not recall seeing much, and also my sources of good genuine postally used kiloware have dried up over the past couple years.

Josh


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PeterG

29 Sep 2012
10:10:39am

re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

Sources of good genuine postally used kiloware HAVE dried up to a good extent Josh, but you may raise a good question there. If any, the few that actually carried letters were probably sent to philatelists

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Bujutsu

02 Oct 2012
01:03:34pm

re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

Grenada is notorius for issuing stamps en mass on any given subject. I think too, in the 1970s, that country was also 'black-blotted' by some of the major stamp papers / magazines at the time for that reason (?)

Chimo

Bujutsu

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PeterG

02 Oct 2012
04:36:27pm

re: Grenada Titanic Souvenir Sheet is it Real?

I wouldn´t wonder if they were

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