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Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I know there is another thread on creating album pages that I will search & show him the scans, but I don't want to overwhelm him with elaborate or pages designed from an adult perspective. I'd like to see him be able to create his own at his own level of ability.
Rough sketches or scans of simple designs would be welcomed so he can see them for himself.
Kelly
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Kelly, if you want to keep it VERY simple, you get a "blank" album that's basically pages of graph paper.. nothing more, nothing less. And allow him to arrange them as he sees fit.
If you're wanting him to print out pages via computer, simple variety:
Album Easy - http://www.thestampweb.com/.
If you want a more challenging page creator -
Scribus http://scribus.net/canvas/Scribus
I've only just started working with Scribus, so I can't say how good/bad it is yet.. as I only got my printer reworking yesterday, and haven't had time to test my page designs yet.
PS: Those stamps should be on their way to him (they went out this past Saturday.. I got sidetracked and forgot to send them earlier)
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07:49:52am
With children I believe that it is best to keep things simple. Avoid explaining more than the child at whatever age can handle. Minimize rules at first. Remember it is supposed to be fun and what I consider "fun" at my age is quite different from what an eight or ten year old child will enjoy.
When I start my youngest grand children, I just give then a blank notebook, a bunch of interesting but expendable stamps and a glue stick.
They will fuss with them and arrange them in ways that they find rewarding. As their interest grows they look over my shoulder and sooner or later they want a three ring binder and blank pages. Eventually they want to decorate the borders, trace maps, create front plates and add whatever makes stamping a pleasure in their minds.
Keep it simple and let them grow into a level that is appropriate for their age and demeanor. Try to avoid stressing that they are learning history and geography. They will as long as their hobby doesn't sound like an extension of old Mrs O'Grady's boring school lectures.
I have seen several earnest long time collectors stifle the excitement with what are virtually lectures about how to soak and sort stamps, how to mount them in the right place, how to root through a catalog to discover what the exact perforation and so-called value Scott or Gibbons wishes they were worth.
Those things all come with time as they become familiar with stamps and their interest expands, but only if they have been allowed to grow at their own pace. Oh, yes, children will learn and develop an interest by watching an older sibling or cousin far more than watching a stuffy old grampa.
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Some may or may not agree with me,but, I prefer to print up my own pages and have done so even before the computer age. Now that we are in the computer age, I do my pages using "Word". I prefer this system because it is easier for me personally.
I have used this system for my stamps, postcards and covers.
I have attached a scan with a sample from one of my military postcards albums to show you.
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To show a stamp page example, please see this scan.
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02:28:56pm
Thanks to everyone for your feedback. Charlie, what you said about avoiding the "school lecture" is a good point & one that I need to keep reminding myself of as I noticed myself doing that a few times. I get excited about his stamps too & want to tell him about what they are & realised he doesn't care. Lol
I found some blank pages I printed out years ago with a line border for a few parts of my old collection so he can use them if he wants. He's meticulous about putting together sets & he has a bag of hinges so when he asks, it's there & he can do whatever he wants with them.
Thanks again everybody, I appreciate it.
Kelly
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kelly, you may have hit it exactly: "here are some pages and hinges; let me know if you need any help."
"Now, about Antiginosh, a Gaelic-speaking section of ......
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03:27:58pm
Lol David - love your last remark - that is so me :-D
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And a little bit more about the River Class Frigates, of special fondness to me.
At the end of August I wrote a short note about them to post in my Coast Guard veteran's website;
" ... The 311s were originally designed as, or after, some British Patrol Frigates and put to use as seaplane tenders during WW II (AVPs). Probably many were CG manned. However their excellent sea-keeping qualities and long range due to the conversion of the AV gas tanks to shipboard use caused the CG to select many of them for it's ocean station needs in lieu of the DEs or DDs that were available in the mothball fleet after the war.
The first wood ship model, about 12 inches long, I ever made was of the USS Albuqueque PF-07. That was during the Korean War which she also took part in. I believed during WW II she was manned by Coasties in the Pacific. ...."
The US Coast Guard used these beauties all over the world and I remember watching the CGC Bering Strait and the CGC Matagorda as they left port for what we called a "Double Victor," when the cutter I was stationed on was in Honolulu .
Ocean Station Victor was a point about halfway between Hawaii and Japan. The cutters assigned would sail to the OSV point and maneuver in the assigned grid for thirty days, after which when relieved sail to Yokosuka for a week's R&R, then finally return to OSV for a second thirty days before returning to Honolulu, essentially a ninety day evolution. That way there was a rescue ship and radio beacon available in the trackless mid Pacific should a ship or aircraft require assistance.
I am sure the HMCS Antigonish performed similar missions during its liftime at sea.
The first time I noticed them I knew that these cutters looked familiar and soon I realized that they were similar to the USS Albuquerque and the 12" model I had put together and painted about twelve years earlier.
There were about 100 of these vessels built at US and Canadian shipyards for allied navies during WW II, and were often as North Atlantic convoy escorts to England and many of them took part in both the Korean War as well as the Vietnam Unpleasantness. Some were rented to the Soviets under the Lend Lease program.
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An interesting read Charlie.
I am still mounting my military mail and it will be quite some time yet before I am anywhere near close to completion. Of course, I am always finding new material for my collection too. I guess it goes with the turf. 
Let's face it, it is material like this that keeps me happy.
Chimo
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Hi Kelley:
I'd suggest you consider Bill Stiener's album pages CD. I bought one years ago, and it was just about the most useful money I've ever spent.
This way, you can start with pages just for the stamps you have, and add more as the collection grows. It's got an "instant gratification" factor that younger kids might appreciate.
Best
BG
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When I first started to collect stamps in 1929, when I was six years old, i used a loose leaf book. and just placed the country name on each page and hinged the stamps to each page.
My mother saw my interest in stamps, and in 1937 purchased a bound International Junior album. I was really involved with stamp collecting by the time I was thirteen. By 1940 the album was bulging, so I switched to the International Junior loose leaf albums. 1840-1940, and decided to just collect the first hundred years of stamps in used condition, unless I could not get them used.I ran a total of how many stamps I had in the album, and each year I updated the figure. As of Dec 31, 1992 I had 26,013 stamps. One binder could not hold all the stamps, so I purchased two more binders for a total of three, and that worked just fine.
In 1993, I started to sell stamps from my personal collection, and each time I removed stamps, I kept a record, and as of Dec 31, 2012 I have 22,811 stamps in the albums.
Several of the stamps I traded for at my stamp club, but mostly purchased what I needed.
Pages rapidly filled up. In some cases when I obtained a mint stamp, I placed it under the used stamp. I hinged all, so many times I took a mnh and hinged it.
Here is a picture of Australia.
Apparently pictures are still not downloading.
Richaard
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08:32:54pm
Keep trying Richard, I want to see some of your pages.
Bobby
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After spending the afternoon reviewing stamporama posts about self-made pages, I am toying with the idea, only for the reason that the info I want to include with the stamp obviously cannot be put into a stockbook, etc..(Note: this is simple cut and pasting from Wikipedia)
Any thoughts?
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@tuscany4me
That's the idea! I think you're coming down with the bug 
Before you know it, you will have binders lining your bookshelves with amazing historical nuggets from the far flung corners of the globe!!
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09:32:36am
Great job, Clayton! Album pages are just like stamp collecting. You do it how you want and in a way that makes you happy! My only recommendation would be to add a box (text box, drawing box) for each stamp so you can place it properly on the page.
Making your own pages can be very rewarding. Keep playing around with it and you'll find what works best for you!
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Okay....
My collection of pre-decimal Australian stamps is coming along very nicely. I have them housed in a beautiful set of Seven Seas album pages. So, I was thinking of moving on to start a collection of New Zealand stamps, say up through 1960.
I begin to look for some nice album pages & discovered that Seven Seas early pages 1855-1953 have been out of print for a long time. White Ace pages are really nice, but for New Zealand they don't start until 1953 as well.
However, I did find an old ratty set of the Seven Seas pages. So, with a little computer magic I created for my collection the marriage of White Ace and Seven Seas..
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Outstanding, Terry! Â 
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Those album pages that you guys made look awesome. Great work!
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I probably have about 1000 pages, about 500 are pre-printed White Ace, about 350 are White Ace blanks that I ran through my printer, and about 150 are blank stock pages (mostly for my non-US stuff). I use 67 lb Exact Vellum Bristol cardstock. It's acid free and creates a nice sturdy page like the White Ace pages. I use an EK Success 3/8" corner rounder (available from just about any scrapbooking store). That matches the rounding of the corners on the White Ace pages. I really like the flexibility to make my pages match my preferences.
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I'm looking for some ideas on how to create album pages for and by a 12 year old boy. He has just started collecting & is currently sorting his newly acquired stamps into a stockbook. He has some topicals such as Olympics & sports as well as some stamps from different countries. I would like to see him create his own, rather than having me do it on the computer for him, but I'm not very good at describing ways to do it & my collection is in varios with separate write-ups, so looking at & helping me with my collection is of no help to him.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I know there is another thread on creating album pages that I will search & show him the scans, but I don't want to overwhelm him with elaborate or pages designed from an adult perspective. I'd like to see him be able to create his own at his own level of ability.
Rough sketches or scans of simple designs would be welcomed so he can see them for himself.
Kelly
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re: Album page ideas
Kelly, if you want to keep it VERY simple, you get a "blank" album that's basically pages of graph paper.. nothing more, nothing less. And allow him to arrange them as he sees fit.
If you're wanting him to print out pages via computer, simple variety:
Album Easy - http://www.thestampweb.com/.
If you want a more challenging page creator -
Scribus http://scribus.net/canvas/Scribus
I've only just started working with Scribus, so I can't say how good/bad it is yet.. as I only got my printer reworking yesterday, and haven't had time to test my page designs yet.
PS: Those stamps should be on their way to him (they went out this past Saturday.. I got sidetracked and forgot to send them earlier)
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With children I believe that it is best to keep things simple. Avoid explaining more than the child at whatever age can handle. Minimize rules at first. Remember it is supposed to be fun and what I consider "fun" at my age is quite different from what an eight or ten year old child will enjoy.
When I start my youngest grand children, I just give then a blank notebook, a bunch of interesting but expendable stamps and a glue stick.
They will fuss with them and arrange them in ways that they find rewarding. As their interest grows they look over my shoulder and sooner or later they want a three ring binder and blank pages. Eventually they want to decorate the borders, trace maps, create front plates and add whatever makes stamping a pleasure in their minds.
Keep it simple and let them grow into a level that is appropriate for their age and demeanor. Try to avoid stressing that they are learning history and geography. They will as long as their hobby doesn't sound like an extension of old Mrs O'Grady's boring school lectures.
I have seen several earnest long time collectors stifle the excitement with what are virtually lectures about how to soak and sort stamps, how to mount them in the right place, how to root through a catalog to discover what the exact perforation and so-called value Scott or Gibbons wishes they were worth.
Those things all come with time as they become familiar with stamps and their interest expands, but only if they have been allowed to grow at their own pace. Oh, yes, children will learn and develop an interest by watching an older sibling or cousin far more than watching a stuffy old grampa.
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Hi All
Some may or may not agree with me,but, I prefer to print up my own pages and have done so even before the computer age. Now that we are in the computer age, I do my pages using "Word". I prefer this system because it is easier for me personally.
I have used this system for my stamps, postcards and covers.
I have attached a scan with a sample from one of my military postcards albums to show you.
Regards
Bujutsu
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To show a stamp page example, please see this scan.
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02:28:56pm
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Thanks to everyone for your feedback. Charlie, what you said about avoiding the "school lecture" is a good point & one that I need to keep reminding myself of as I noticed myself doing that a few times. I get excited about his stamps too & want to tell him about what they are & realised he doesn't care. Lol
I found some blank pages I printed out years ago with a line border for a few parts of my old collection so he can use them if he wants. He's meticulous about putting together sets & he has a bag of hinges so when he asks, it's there & he can do whatever he wants with them.
Thanks again everybody, I appreciate it.
Kelly
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kelly, you may have hit it exactly: "here are some pages and hinges; let me know if you need any help."
"Now, about Antiginosh, a Gaelic-speaking section of ......
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03:27:58pm
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Lol David - love your last remark - that is so me :-D
Kelly
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And a little bit more about the River Class Frigates, of special fondness to me.
At the end of August I wrote a short note about them to post in my Coast Guard veteran's website;
" ... The 311s were originally designed as, or after, some British Patrol Frigates and put to use as seaplane tenders during WW II (AVPs). Probably many were CG manned. However their excellent sea-keeping qualities and long range due to the conversion of the AV gas tanks to shipboard use caused the CG to select many of them for it's ocean station needs in lieu of the DEs or DDs that were available in the mothball fleet after the war.
The first wood ship model, about 12 inches long, I ever made was of the USS Albuqueque PF-07. That was during the Korean War which she also took part in. I believed during WW II she was manned by Coasties in the Pacific. ...."
The US Coast Guard used these beauties all over the world and I remember watching the CGC Bering Strait and the CGC Matagorda as they left port for what we called a "Double Victor," when the cutter I was stationed on was in Honolulu .
Ocean Station Victor was a point about halfway between Hawaii and Japan. The cutters assigned would sail to the OSV point and maneuver in the assigned grid for thirty days, after which when relieved sail to Yokosuka for a week's R&R, then finally return to OSV for a second thirty days before returning to Honolulu, essentially a ninety day evolution. That way there was a rescue ship and radio beacon available in the trackless mid Pacific should a ship or aircraft require assistance.
I am sure the HMCS Antigonish performed similar missions during its liftime at sea.
The first time I noticed them I knew that these cutters looked familiar and soon I realized that they were similar to the USS Albuquerque and the 12" model I had put together and painted about twelve years earlier.
There were about 100 of these vessels built at US and Canadian shipyards for allied navies during WW II, and were often as North Atlantic convoy escorts to England and many of them took part in both the Korean War as well as the Vietnam Unpleasantness. Some were rented to the Soviets under the Lend Lease program.
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An interesting read Charlie.
I am still mounting my military mail and it will be quite some time yet before I am anywhere near close to completion. Of course, I am always finding new material for my collection too. I guess it goes with the turf.
Let's face it, it is material like this that keeps me happy.
Chimo
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09:49:03am
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Hi Kelley:
I'd suggest you consider Bill Stiener's album pages CD. I bought one years ago, and it was just about the most useful money I've ever spent.
This way, you can start with pages just for the stamps you have, and add more as the collection grows. It's got an "instant gratification" factor that younger kids might appreciate.
Best
BG
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When I first started to collect stamps in 1929, when I was six years old, i used a loose leaf book. and just placed the country name on each page and hinged the stamps to each page.
My mother saw my interest in stamps, and in 1937 purchased a bound International Junior album. I was really involved with stamp collecting by the time I was thirteen. By 1940 the album was bulging, so I switched to the International Junior loose leaf albums. 1840-1940, and decided to just collect the first hundred years of stamps in used condition, unless I could not get them used.I ran a total of how many stamps I had in the album, and each year I updated the figure. As of Dec 31, 1992 I had 26,013 stamps. One binder could not hold all the stamps, so I purchased two more binders for a total of three, and that worked just fine.
In 1993, I started to sell stamps from my personal collection, and each time I removed stamps, I kept a record, and as of Dec 31, 2012 I have 22,811 stamps in the albums.
Several of the stamps I traded for at my stamp club, but mostly purchased what I needed.
Pages rapidly filled up. In some cases when I obtained a mint stamp, I placed it under the used stamp. I hinged all, so many times I took a mnh and hinged it.
Here is a picture of Australia.
Apparently pictures are still not downloading.
Richaard
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Keep trying Richard, I want to see some of your pages.
Bobby
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After spending the afternoon reviewing stamporama posts about self-made pages, I am toying with the idea, only for the reason that the info I want to include with the stamp obviously cannot be put into a stockbook, etc..(Note: this is simple cut and pasting from Wikipedia)
Any thoughts?
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@tuscany4me
That's the idea! I think you're coming down with the bug
Before you know it, you will have binders lining your bookshelves with amazing historical nuggets from the far flung corners of the globe!!
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Great job, Clayton! Album pages are just like stamp collecting. You do it how you want and in a way that makes you happy! My only recommendation would be to add a box (text box, drawing box) for each stamp so you can place it properly on the page.
Making your own pages can be very rewarding. Keep playing around with it and you'll find what works best for you!
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Okay....
My collection of pre-decimal Australian stamps is coming along very nicely. I have them housed in a beautiful set of Seven Seas album pages. So, I was thinking of moving on to start a collection of New Zealand stamps, say up through 1960.
I begin to look for some nice album pages & discovered that Seven Seas early pages 1855-1953 have been out of print for a long time. White Ace pages are really nice, but for New Zealand they don't start until 1953 as well.
However, I did find an old ratty set of the Seven Seas pages. So, with a little computer magic I created for my collection the marriage of White Ace and Seven Seas..
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Outstanding, Terry! Â
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Those album pages that you guys made look awesome. Great work!
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I probably have about 1000 pages, about 500 are pre-printed White Ace, about 350 are White Ace blanks that I ran through my printer, and about 150 are blank stock pages (mostly for my non-US stuff). I use 67 lb Exact Vellum Bristol cardstock. It's acid free and creates a nice sturdy page like the White Ace pages. I use an EK Success 3/8" corner rounder (available from just about any scrapbooking store). That matches the rounding of the corners on the White Ace pages. I really like the flexibility to make my pages match my preferences.
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