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Canada/Stamps : Canada # 701 Floating Flag variety?

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StampCommune
14 Aug 2012
08:39:58pm
While sorting through some Canada, I came across this pair that didn't look right to me. After closer examination, I realized the 10c Violet, "Passport" flag was not attached to it's mast. I kept examining the stamp trying to figure out how that happened....The entire upper deck ropes and framing was shifted to the left(or the ship was shifted to the right). Since the flag was part of the violet color pass, it makes it appear to be floating, heance the name I gave it, Floating Flag. The front ropes are not attached to the front, they hang off. The bottom stamp doesn't show any shift, which I would think it would being the same color...?
I asked Mike (CapeStampMan) to fook and see if Unitrade listed color shifts for this, but they don't. Anyone with any other Canadian specialized want to check to see if it is listed in there? Appreciated it.
Although color shifts aren't as a dramatic freak as others, this one caught my eye and interest due to the flag.
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14 Aug 2012
09:30:48pm
re: Canada # 701 Floating Flag variety?

Hi Grant,

I just looked it up in my Darnell EFO catalogue and they have this listed as a shifted impression. They value the coastal vessels, se-tenant, Shifted Impression at $300 mint and $100 used. The values are in Canadian funds.

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StampCommune
14 Aug 2012
09:42:57pm
re: Canada # 701 Floating Flag variety?

Cool. Now where's those other two, maybe I can stitch it back together..
Thanks Alyn, appreciate it.

Grant

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15 Aug 2012
07:58:25am
re: Canada # 701 Floating Flag variety?

No problem Grant.

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15 Aug 2012
08:45:57am
re: Canada # 701 Floating Flag variety?

Grant,

That's great news for you. Good find, you deserve it!!!!!

Mike

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15 Aug 2012
09:34:01pm
re: Canada # 701 Floating Flag variety?

Just as a FYI, folks, those "upper deck ropes" actually have names and at least general definitions.
A line or cable that runs from a mast, leading fore or aft, is a "stay". Thus on the Passport you can see a forestay running from the mast to the base of the jackstaff at the bow of the ship.
There are two further lines that must be to lift and lower what I assume is the ramp that seems to be hanging over the bow so that the river steamer can nose into the shoreline and, lowering that ramp, allow passengers to board and debark the ship without running the risk of damaging the side paddle wheel.
From the peak of the mast, the drawing shows what appear to be two "back stays" which would be taking a rearward strain to hold the mast vertical.
To either side of the mast are several "shrouds" which you can identify as the artist shows multiple ratlines that a sailor would use to climb to the midpoint although, since no crow's nest or lookout platform is apparent, there should seldom be a reason to climb to that point.
If there were a "stay" running aft from the top of the mast to the top forward part of the smoke stack it would likely be called a triatic stay, and on some later steam ships the vessel's radio antenna would be stretched, assuming the RS passport had a ship's radio in the mid 1800s.
The lines running from the smoke stack to the deck would be namedstays or shrouds and either fore or aft depending on precisely where they were attached.
The word "ropes" seems to have been seldom used to describe or label a part of the running or fixed rigging on most ships with the exception of the wires that look like some kind of safety railings running around the decks. Those are usually called the "Hand" rope and the lower one the "foot" rope.

Some terminology might vary significantly between ocean going sailors and great lakes or river sailors but generally there are mostly similarities.

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