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10 May 2012
04:32:19pm
One of my collecting interests is "Covers that traveled unusual routes".

When I describe these, most collectors immediately think of "mis-directed" covers -- ones that went where they weren't supposed to, or chased a traveller or military addressee all over the planet - but that's not what interests me.

I like the items that went where they were supposed to, but by a route that, with today's transportation, is not intuitive. Sometimes these (apparently) strange routes are the result of wartime disruptions. Other times, they can be due to the early versions of "hub and spoke" transport. Here's an example of one of those:

Sent from Brazil (I still haven't been able to decipher the town -- any help appreciated) to Haiti in 1924.

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Note the routing it took:

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Brazil: July 2(?)
Barbados (!!): August 20
New York: Sept 7
Port au Prince Haiti: Sept 17

On a map:

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It was a lot closer to its destination (a month earlier) when it was in Barbados!

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10 May 2012
04:39:53pm
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

Here's another one.

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This is actually a page from my exhibit on Stamporama of "Very Cool Covers" - an exhibit intended to show non-collectors of covers what it is that cover collectors find interesting about them. Here's the exhibit.

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10 May 2012
05:07:37pm

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Roy - Please post more of your collection. Very interesting!

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10 May 2012
06:45:51pm
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Intriguing covers Roy! It would great to see more if you can post them.

My guess for the Brazilian postmark would be Santa Maria in Rio Grande do Sul.

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joelgrebin

10 May 2012
09:52:59pm
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Yes Roy, I definitely like the sample cover showing the routes. You have others, please contact me. Modern town cancels as well.
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10 May 2012
10:38:43pm
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

Roy,
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Mike

11 May 2012
09:02:35pm
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

That is a great exhibit Roy, thanks for setting that up and sharing it with us.

Mike

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12 May 2012
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re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

Awesome exhibit

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25 May 2012
11:48:31pm
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

Not sure if this one qualifies:

Local mail from one address in Stafford Springs, CT, to another address in the same town. Processed (cancelled) at the mail factory in Hartford, Connecticut, August 18, 1985.

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Transit the next day in Orlando, Florida, August 19, 1985,

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then on to Utuado, Puerto Rico, August 24, 1985,

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and apparently delivered without further ado.

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StampCommune

26 May 2012
05:31:45pm
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

It's kind of funny...
Years ago they did what they had to do to get it there.
Today they do it...only they know why.

Sent something to someone locally recently here in Cape Coral, FL. When it was received it had a TAMPA, FL postmark, 100 MILES NORTH of us.

History does seem to repeat itself...LOL

Grant

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27 May 2012
12:05:32pm
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

Back in the 1980,s,before internet, I sent away for a 30 + kilo box lot from Denmark(advertised in Linns)Some of you might remember those ads,
I wish I would have kept the wrapper but it was falling apart by the time I got the box, It had ended up in Columbia South America instead of British Columbia Canada and it took 6 months before it arrived at the Vancouver airport.

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13 Jun 2012
12:32:52pm
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

More in line with Arno's cover and certainly more plebian than any of Roy's but the routing, aside from being wrong, makes no sense. One would need to overshoot NYC, its intended destination, by 643 miles (1,028 km). There are direct flights between Copenhagen (where it was cancelled, although the sender lives in Oegstgeest) and Indianapolis; but perhaps Dutch command of American geography is as pitiful as most Americans'.

David

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14 Jun 2012
12:06:02pm
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

I have one somewhat ratty cover that attracted my eye at a stamp show a few years ago, that was mailed from Bergen, Norway in early 1940 to a Lars Jensen who lived at an apartment just one or two blocks from where my grand parents lived in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.
It travelled east because of the hostilities between Germany and Great Britain, crossing the Soviet Union to Vladavostok and then across the Pacific by ship to San Francisco and further across the US to its destination.
Unfortunately my father's family were not long lived so I never discovered if Lars was a cousin or uncle, but perhaps now that the 1940 census is open to the public I will find the cover and see if I can make a connection.
These things are so very interesting.
Charlie Jensen
Lecanto, Florida

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14 Jun 2012
04:39:06pm
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

amsd, your cover is not postmarked in Copenhagen, Denmark. That would read København. Also the term "post code" has never been used in Danish postmarks. That would read "postnummer"


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14 Jun 2012
05:36:58pm
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I believe I've perfectly demonstrated my point on geography

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19 Jan 2015
05:16:59pm
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

I think that David's cover was postmarked in Gravenhage, Netherlands.

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20 Jan 2015
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re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

I gave the cover away several years ago to a cover collector, but I had sent for a sample issue of Gibbons' monthly stamp magazine. I forgot about my request, figuring that they either did not get my card, or were not going to send a sample to the USA due to the postage costs. Well, it finally did arrive six months later. It had an ancillary marking "Missent to Thailand". So, UK to Thailand to Texas.

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20 Jan 2015
09:59:01am
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

I am Siam I am

and, if it had a seal on it, it would be a tied-on Thai cover

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20 Jan 2015
10:06:40am
re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

I saw the resurrection of an old thread. I haven't really researched this one. Here's one that went all over the place. It started in Maine on July 29th of '05 and ended up in Lucerne by way of London then Forwarded to Paris and Geneva.

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Front of cover rotated 180 degrees (to read postmarks)
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10 May 2012
04:32:19pm

One of my collecting interests is "Covers that traveled unusual routes".

When I describe these, most collectors immediately think of "mis-directed" covers -- ones that went where they weren't supposed to, or chased a traveller or military addressee all over the planet - but that's not what interests me.

I like the items that went where they were supposed to, but by a route that, with today's transportation, is not intuitive. Sometimes these (apparently) strange routes are the result of wartime disruptions. Other times, they can be due to the early versions of "hub and spoke" transport. Here's an example of one of those:

Sent from Brazil (I still haven't been able to decipher the town -- any help appreciated) to Haiti in 1924.

Image Not Found


Note the routing it took:

Image Not Found

Brazil: July 2(?)
Barbados (!!): August 20
New York: Sept 7
Port au Prince Haiti: Sept 17

On a map:

Image Not Found

It was a lot closer to its destination (a month earlier) when it was in Barbados!

Roy

P.S. Like this stuff? Let me know -- I've got others!



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"BuckaCover.com - 80,000 covers priced 60c to $1.50- 7,000 new covers coming October 6."

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BuckaCover.com - 80,000 covers priced 60c to $1.50 - Easy browsing 500 categories
10 May 2012
04:39:53pm

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

Here's another one.

Image Not Found

This is actually a page from my exhibit on Stamporama of "Very Cool Covers" - an exhibit intended to show non-collectors of covers what it is that cover collectors find interesting about them. Here's the exhibit.

Roy


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Liz

10 May 2012
05:07:37pm

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re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

Roy - Please post more of your collection. Very interesting!

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nigelc

10 May 2012
06:45:51pm

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

Intriguing covers Roy! It would great to see more if you can post them.

My guess for the Brazilian postmark would be Santa Maria in Rio Grande do Sul.

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joelgrebin

10 May 2012
09:52:59pm

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Yes Roy, I definitely like the sample cover showing the routes. You have others, please contact me. Modern town cancels as well.
Thanks
Joel

joelgrebin@yahoo.com

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Roy,
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Mike
11 May 2012
09:02:35pm

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

That is a great exhibit Roy, thanks for setting that up and sharing it with us.

Mike

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lpayette

12 May 2012
01:30:44am

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

Awesome exhibit

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25 May 2012
11:48:31pm

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

Not sure if this one qualifies:

Local mail from one address in Stafford Springs, CT, to another address in the same town. Processed (cancelled) at the mail factory in Hartford, Connecticut, August 18, 1985.

Image Not Found

Transit the next day in Orlando, Florida, August 19, 1985,

Image Not Found

then on to Utuado, Puerto Rico, August 24, 1985,

Image Not Found

and apparently delivered without further ado.

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StampCommune

26 May 2012
05:31:45pm

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

It's kind of funny...
Years ago they did what they had to do to get it there.
Today they do it...only they know why.

Sent something to someone locally recently here in Cape Coral, FL. When it was received it had a TAMPA, FL postmark, 100 MILES NORTH of us.

History does seem to repeat itself...LOL

Grant

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lpayette

27 May 2012
12:05:32pm

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

Back in the 1980,s,before internet, I sent away for a 30 + kilo box lot from Denmark(advertised in Linns)Some of you might remember those ads,
I wish I would have kept the wrapper but it was falling apart by the time I got the box, It had ended up in Columbia South America instead of British Columbia Canada and it took 6 months before it arrived at the Vancouver airport.

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amsd

Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
13 Jun 2012
12:32:52pm

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

More in line with Arno's cover and certainly more plebian than any of Roy's but the routing, aside from being wrong, makes no sense. One would need to overshoot NYC, its intended destination, by 643 miles (1,028 km). There are direct flights between Copenhagen (where it was cancelled, although the sender lives in Oegstgeest) and Indianapolis; but perhaps Dutch command of American geography is as pitiful as most Americans'.

David

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12:06:02pm

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

I have one somewhat ratty cover that attracted my eye at a stamp show a few years ago, that was mailed from Bergen, Norway in early 1940 to a Lars Jensen who lived at an apartment just one or two blocks from where my grand parents lived in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.
It travelled east because of the hostilities between Germany and Great Britain, crossing the Soviet Union to Vladavostok and then across the Pacific by ship to San Francisco and further across the US to its destination.
Unfortunately my father's family were not long lived so I never discovered if Lars was a cousin or uncle, but perhaps now that the 1940 census is open to the public I will find the cover and see if I can make a connection.
These things are so very interesting.
Charlie Jensen
Lecanto, Florida

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14 Jun 2012
04:39:06pm

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

amsd, your cover is not postmarked in Copenhagen, Denmark. That would read København. Also the term "post code" has never been used in Danish postmarks. That would read "postnummer"


Peter

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14 Jun 2012
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I believe I've perfectly demonstrated my point on geography

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19 Jan 2015
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re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

I think that David's cover was postmarked in Gravenhage, Netherlands.

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20 Jan 2015
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re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

I gave the cover away several years ago to a cover collector, but I had sent for a sample issue of Gibbons' monthly stamp magazine. I forgot about my request, figuring that they either did not get my card, or were not going to send a sample to the USA due to the postage costs. Well, it finally did arrive six months later. It had an ancillary marking "Missent to Thailand". So, UK to Thailand to Texas.

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20 Jan 2015
09:59:01am

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

I am Siam I am

and, if it had a seal on it, it would be a tied-on Thai cover

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donhearl

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20 Jan 2015
10:06:40am

re: Covers that travelled unusual routes

I saw the resurrection of an old thread. I haven't really researched this one. Here's one that went all over the place. It started in Maine on July 29th of '05 and ended up in Lucerne by way of London then Forwarded to Paris and Geneva.

Front of cover
Image Not Found

Front of cover rotated 180 degrees (to read postmarks)
Image Not Found

the back of cover
Image Not Found

back of cover rotated 180 degrees
Image Not Found

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