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Europe/Great Britain : Great Britain: identification triangular cancels

 

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daveanddeb

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18 Apr 2012
04:08:23pm
Ok..so I admit it...Great Britain isn't my area of expertise...that's for sure. Actually, I started working on this area a few days ago and have been mostly sorting and watermarking to see what is what.

Does anyone have any idea of what these cancels mean? They are the only ones like this that I found out of over 1000 stamps that I sorted all about the same time period.

Thanks!

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19 Apr 2012
02:47:03pm
re: Great Britain: identification triangular cancels

I have been waiting for someone else to answer this with more definite information than I can offer, but since there has been no action, I will pass on what I can.

These are associated with bulk mail or printed matter (that's why you see them on the lowest denominations). What I am not sure about is whether they were generally used on printed matter mail, or are specific to mail inspected by an inspector who was to make sure that the mail met the qualifications for "Printed Matter". I suspect the latter is the true use -- so only some printed matter got the cancel. The rest would have received a machine cancel. The numbers and letters refer to printed matter sorting stations and are associated with codes for telegraph offices.

Roy

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19 Apr 2012
04:31:56pm
re: Great Britain: identification triangular cancels

Late fee cancels. Started around 18 hundred and frozen to death and ceased in 1930.
A charge made on mail posted after the normal collection hours in order to catch the last post.

Can this be true? I know a little more than that great guru of GB Mr Roy Lingen? Fraid not. Info supplied by Mr and Mrs Google and Professor Wikipedia. Ah well at least I'm British.

By the by Roy loved the tutorials. Nothing I didn't know says he, lying through his teeth.

All the best.
Tim2.

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daveanddeb

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19 Apr 2012
06:15:51pm
re: Great Britain: identification triangular cancels

Hi to the both of you! Thank you very much for the information. I have a feeling that these could be the start of a limited specialist collection...so I think I'll keep my eyes out for some more...cause you just never know!

Thanks again!

Dave

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10 Feb 2013
11:04:54am
re: Great Britain: identification triangular cancels

These are special cancels for use on bulk mail, which explains why all of Dave's examples are 1/2 penny stamps. Both hand and machine cancels exist:

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I don't know how British late fee cancels look like. They might be similar in appearance, as suggested by Tim2, but these are definitely bulk mail cancels.

Arno



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daveanddeb

http://www.americancollectiblesmuseum.org

18 Apr 2012
04:08:23pm

Ok..so I admit it...Great Britain isn't my area of expertise...that's for sure. Actually, I started working on this area a few days ago and have been mostly sorting and watermarking to see what is what.

Does anyone have any idea of what these cancels mean? They are the only ones like this that I found out of over 1000 stamps that I sorted all about the same time period.

Thanks!

DaveImage Not Found

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"Author: The Standard Catalog of Russian and Ukrainian Local Stamps (1992-1995)"

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19 Apr 2012
02:47:03pm

re: Great Britain: identification triangular cancels

I have been waiting for someone else to answer this with more definite information than I can offer, but since there has been no action, I will pass on what I can.

These are associated with bulk mail or printed matter (that's why you see them on the lowest denominations). What I am not sure about is whether they were generally used on printed matter mail, or are specific to mail inspected by an inspector who was to make sure that the mail met the qualifications for "Printed Matter". I suspect the latter is the true use -- so only some printed matter got the cancel. The rest would have received a machine cancel. The numbers and letters refer to printed matter sorting stations and are associated with codes for telegraph offices.

Roy

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19 Apr 2012
04:31:56pm

re: Great Britain: identification triangular cancels

Late fee cancels. Started around 18 hundred and frozen to death and ceased in 1930.
A charge made on mail posted after the normal collection hours in order to catch the last post.

Can this be true? I know a little more than that great guru of GB Mr Roy Lingen? Fraid not. Info supplied by Mr and Mrs Google and Professor Wikipedia. Ah well at least I'm British.

By the by Roy loved the tutorials. Nothing I didn't know says he, lying through his teeth.

All the best.
Tim2.

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daveanddeb

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19 Apr 2012
06:15:51pm

re: Great Britain: identification triangular cancels

Hi to the both of you! Thank you very much for the information. I have a feeling that these could be the start of a limited specialist collection...so I think I'll keep my eyes out for some more...cause you just never know!

Thanks again!

Dave

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"Author: The Standard Catalog of Russian and Ukrainian Local Stamps (1992-1995)"

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10 Feb 2013
11:04:54am

re: Great Britain: identification triangular cancels

These are special cancels for use on bulk mail, which explains why all of Dave's examples are 1/2 penny stamps. Both hand and machine cancels exist:

Image Not Found
Image Not Found

I don't know how British late fee cancels look like. They might be similar in appearance, as suggested by Tim2, but these are definitely bulk mail cancels.

Arno



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