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What is the acceptable philatelic term for a stamp printed directly
on a postcard or envelope?
I knew the origin of this stamp when I filed it in my "to do" box a few years ago.
Unfortunately those batteries have long since expired.
The issuing authority was likely Switzerland or the United Nations, but it is
an unpredictable world nowadays. Unable to identify it in my 2010 Scott.
Looking for help, please.
John Derry
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the usual name for this, is "Postal Stationary" and the are not list in Scott catalog you could only find theme in spécialised catalog from this contry, here it's Switzerland.
hope it's help...
Jacques
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Regarding postal cards, in the US, the standard method of collecting is the entire card. In Europe, "cut outs", or "cut squares" are acceptable.
With stamped envelopes, cut squares are collected in the US. Scott values the cut squares, but not when the design on the stamped envelope is beyond the upper right corner. Then, only an entire is valued.
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Blacque Jacques Shellaque and Michael:
Thank you both for your help. Yes, this came from Switzerland.
John
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Just to clarify... Scott lists cut squares for stamped envelopes only. They do not list cut squares for postal cards. In addition, except for the Great Britain Mulready envelopes, Scott only lists postal stationary for the United States, US area, and the United Nations.
The Mulready Envelopes are listed, because they were the first postal stationary.
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The P.P. stands for porte payé or postage paid. What you have (RE: "acceptable philatelic term") is a cut-out "PPI" or postage paid impression, which is a symbol indicating that the postage for the item has been paid in cash. I have also heard the term postage paid insignia for PPI. Usually these PPIs, which you commonly find on your everyday junk or mass mailings are pretty bland, but they can be personalized (like the ones used by the APS) and then may take the appearance of a stamp. Note that the "cancellation" is printed to further give the impression of a personal "stamped" mailing. So, no this is not a cut square, which would be the term for the cut-out stamp portion of government issued postal stationary.
Arno
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Responding Stamporama club members:
Thank you all for sharing your philatelic expertise with me and with others. I am indebted to you.
John Derry
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Arno, thanks for the explanation. You analogy to the APS personalized postage labels was a good clarifier.
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The past is a foreign country, they do things different there.
17 Apr 2012
02:37:30pm
Philatelists:
What is the acceptable philatelic term for a stamp printed directly
on a postcard or envelope?
I knew the origin of this stamp when I filed it in my "to do" box a few years ago.
Unfortunately those batteries have long since expired.
The issuing authority was likely Switzerland or the United Nations, but it is
an unpredictable world nowadays. Unable to identify it in my 2010 Scott.
Looking for help, please.
John Derry
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re: Switzerland: what is this P.P. imprinted stamp?
the usual name for this, is "Postal Stationary" and the are not list in Scott catalog you could only find theme in spécialised catalog from this contry, here it's Switzerland.
hope it's help...
Jacques
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05:29:38pm
re: Switzerland: what is this P.P. imprinted stamp?
Regarding postal cards, in the US, the standard method of collecting is the entire card. In Europe, "cut outs", or "cut squares" are acceptable.
With stamped envelopes, cut squares are collected in the US. Scott values the cut squares, but not when the design on the stamped envelope is beyond the upper right corner. Then, only an entire is valued.
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The past is a foreign country, they do things different there.
18 Apr 2012
02:05:49pm
re: Switzerland: what is this P.P. imprinted stamp?
Blacque Jacques Shellaque and Michael:
Thank you both for your help. Yes, this came from Switzerland.
John
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05:58:41pm
re: Switzerland: what is this P.P. imprinted stamp?
Just to clarify... Scott lists cut squares for stamped envelopes only. They do not list cut squares for postal cards. In addition, except for the Great Britain Mulready envelopes, Scott only lists postal stationary for the United States, US area, and the United Nations.
The Mulready Envelopes are listed, because they were the first postal stationary.
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re: Switzerland: what is this P.P. imprinted stamp?
The P.P. stands for porte payé or postage paid. What you have (RE: "acceptable philatelic term") is a cut-out "PPI" or postage paid impression, which is a symbol indicating that the postage for the item has been paid in cash. I have also heard the term postage paid insignia for PPI. Usually these PPIs, which you commonly find on your everyday junk or mass mailings are pretty bland, but they can be personalized (like the ones used by the APS) and then may take the appearance of a stamp. Note that the "cancellation" is printed to further give the impression of a personal "stamped" mailing. So, no this is not a cut square, which would be the term for the cut-out stamp portion of government issued postal stationary.
Arno
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The past is a foreign country, they do things different there.
24 Apr 2012
11:27:23pm
re: Switzerland: what is this P.P. imprinted stamp?
Responding Stamporama club members:
Thank you all for sharing your philatelic expertise with me and with others. I am indebted to you.
John Derry
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10:17:18am
re: Switzerland: what is this P.P. imprinted stamp?
Arno, thanks for the explanation. You analogy to the APS personalized postage labels was a good clarifier.
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