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United States/BOB & Other : Identification Circle M perfin

 

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oliver_black

01 Apr 2012
02:53:19pm
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I was puzzled by the "circle M" holes in this #1285. Any special meaning or purpose?
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michael78651

01 Apr 2012
02:57:58pm
re: Identification Circle M perfin

It will be a perfin to identify the company that used the stamp to prevent pilfering by employees. I don't know which company used that design.

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oliver_black

01 Apr 2012
03:13:03pm
re: Identification Circle M perfin

Just how would that mark preclude an employee or anyone else from using the stamp for "personal" purposes? Was it the USPS' responsibility to compare the perfin to the company's return address on the envelope? I don't understand the process.

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michael78651

01 Apr 2012
04:38:17pm
re: Identification Circle M perfin

The practice of punching the initials (perfins) of companies into the face of stamps started in Great Britain in 1869. The idea is to prevent petty pilfering and illegitimate use of the stamps owned by the company by its employees.

Postal services don't track the stamps. It is the companies that maintain the inventory and monitor usage of the stamps.

A similar thing was done with pre-canceled stamps where many companies printed the company name or initials on either on the top or bottom portion of the stamp.

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01 Apr 2012
04:45:22pm
re: Identification Circle M perfin

This "perfin" (perforated initial or insigna) was used by the offices of the "State of Michigan" on many US stamps. You have a completed design with 8 holes in the circle, they also use others perforator hou have 8 to 18 perforation to form the external circle. I have a few copies of the "18" circle perforator. Hope it help a little,

Jacques

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oliver_black

01 Apr 2012
11:57:28pm
re: Identification Circle M perfin

Thanks for the education. I just never took notice of the perfin category,even though it has been right before my eyes. Just discovered another on a #720 stamp -- The letters NY bisected by a large L.

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michael78651

02 Apr 2012
01:33:27am
re: Identification Circle M perfin

They are interesting, and you can find them on tons of stamps from all over the world. I like to find Swiss stamps with "Tobler" perfins!

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02 Apr 2012
03:38:54pm
re: Identification Circle M perfin

This perfin looks like it is from the State of Michigan in Lansing. Cataloged as M10.6 in the Catalog of United States Perfins 1979.

Bob

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19 Apr 2012
06:23:46pm
re: Identification Circle M perfin

I can see that I'm going to have to dig out all my foreign perfins now to provide more fodder for this discussion! :-)

Dave

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oliver_black

01 Apr 2012
02:53:19pm

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I was puzzled by the "circle M" holes in this #1285. Any special meaning or purpose?

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michael78651

01 Apr 2012
02:57:58pm

re: Identification Circle M perfin

It will be a perfin to identify the company that used the stamp to prevent pilfering by employees. I don't know which company used that design.

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oliver_black

01 Apr 2012
03:13:03pm

re: Identification Circle M perfin

Just how would that mark preclude an employee or anyone else from using the stamp for "personal" purposes? Was it the USPS' responsibility to compare the perfin to the company's return address on the envelope? I don't understand the process.

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michael78651

01 Apr 2012
04:38:17pm

re: Identification Circle M perfin

The practice of punching the initials (perfins) of companies into the face of stamps started in Great Britain in 1869. The idea is to prevent petty pilfering and illegitimate use of the stamps owned by the company by its employees.

Postal services don't track the stamps. It is the companies that maintain the inventory and monitor usage of the stamps.

A similar thing was done with pre-canceled stamps where many companies printed the company name or initials on either on the top or bottom portion of the stamp.

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timbres

01 Apr 2012
04:45:22pm

re: Identification Circle M perfin

This "perfin" (perforated initial or insigna) was used by the offices of the "State of Michigan" on many US stamps. You have a completed design with 8 holes in the circle, they also use others perforator hou have 8 to 18 perforation to form the external circle. I have a few copies of the "18" circle perforator. Hope it help a little,

Jacques

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oliver_black

01 Apr 2012
11:57:28pm

re: Identification Circle M perfin

Thanks for the education. I just never took notice of the perfin category,even though it has been right before my eyes. Just discovered another on a #720 stamp -- The letters NY bisected by a large L.

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michael78651

02 Apr 2012
01:33:27am

re: Identification Circle M perfin

They are interesting, and you can find them on tons of stamps from all over the world. I like to find Swiss stamps with "Tobler" perfins!

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Immediate Past President - West Essex Philatelic Society www.wepsonline.org
02 Apr 2012
03:38:54pm

re: Identification Circle M perfin

This perfin looks like it is from the State of Michigan in Lansing. Cataloged as M10.6 in the Catalog of United States Perfins 1979.

Bob

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daveanddeb

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19 Apr 2012
06:23:46pm

re: Identification Circle M perfin

I can see that I'm going to have to dig out all my foreign perfins now to provide more fodder for this discussion! :-)

Dave

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