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United States/Stamps : Modern rarity -- US CVP cataloging question

 

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Rhinelander
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05 Feb 2012
09:48:49pm
Before I ask my question you may all guess what, if anything, is special about this cover:

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This is the Washington, DC Machine 11, which makes this Scott # CVP21 on an unadressed cover. My Scott specialized 2002 (I really should get a more recent one) does not value this stamp as used, and an unused value ($150) is given only in italics. The machines No. 11 and 12 were only available to delegates to the 20th Universal Postal Congress at the Washington Convention Center between Nov. 13 and Dec. 14, 1989. Is there a value for the stamp in used condition now recorded? The transaction number is 00048, indicating that by December 1 not an awful lot of these stamps had been sold.

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06 Feb 2012
12:27:38am
re: Modern rarity -- US CVP cataloging question

Arno,

I have a 2010 Specialized and as of that year, there is still no amount in the used column.

Apparently, still insufficient info regarding a value...




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06 Feb 2012
10:47:31pm
re: Modern rarity -- US CVP cataloging question

Thanks, Randy. I do not plan to part from this cover. I was just curious if there was any additional information being made available over the last ten years. I also have an older, 2003, Michel US specialized which lists this stamp at 850 Euros. Because of the availability of good catalogs, CVP stamps have been more avidly collected in Germany and other European countries compared to the U.S. Collecting interest has faded quite a bit for these stamps, though (as far as I can tell). So, $100-200 strikes me as about right.

Scott gave this stamp a major "full rank" catalog number, but if the machines installed at the UPU congress really served demonstration purposes only, this decision maybe is not justified. On the other hand, the stamps apparently were valid postage so an actual cover from machines 11 and 12 still may turn up.

I paid essentially nothing for this cover, because the seller did not know what (s)he had. I did not know either, though, until I did some research. Any of the older CVP or early experiments with internet postage are RARE. Very few people used these stamps at the time.

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Rhinelander

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05 Feb 2012
09:48:49pm

Before I ask my question you may all guess what, if anything, is special about this cover:

Image Not Found

Now the question:

This is the Washington, DC Machine 11, which makes this Scott # CVP21 on an unadressed cover. My Scott specialized 2002 (I really should get a more recent one) does not value this stamp as used, and an unused value ($150) is given only in italics. The machines No. 11 and 12 were only available to delegates to the 20th Universal Postal Congress at the Washington Convention Center between Nov. 13 and Dec. 14, 1989. Is there a value for the stamp in used condition now recorded? The transaction number is 00048, indicating that by December 1 not an awful lot of these stamps had been sold.

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06 Feb 2012
12:27:38am

re: Modern rarity -- US CVP cataloging question

Arno,

I have a 2010 Specialized and as of that year, there is still no amount in the used column.

Apparently, still insufficient info regarding a value...




Randy

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06 Feb 2012
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re: Modern rarity -- US CVP cataloging question

Thanks, Randy. I do not plan to part from this cover. I was just curious if there was any additional information being made available over the last ten years. I also have an older, 2003, Michel US specialized which lists this stamp at 850 Euros. Because of the availability of good catalogs, CVP stamps have been more avidly collected in Germany and other European countries compared to the U.S. Collecting interest has faded quite a bit for these stamps, though (as far as I can tell). So, $100-200 strikes me as about right.

Scott gave this stamp a major "full rank" catalog number, but if the machines installed at the UPU congress really served demonstration purposes only, this decision maybe is not justified. On the other hand, the stamps apparently were valid postage so an actual cover from machines 11 and 12 still may turn up.

I paid essentially nothing for this cover, because the seller did not know what (s)he had. I did not know either, though, until I did some research. Any of the older CVP or early experiments with internet postage are RARE. Very few people used these stamps at the time.

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