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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Hinging Self-Adhesives

 

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Woodstock

26 Jan 2012
11:56:02am
If one were to affix a self adhesive stamp to an album page using a standard hinge on the backing sheet, wouldn't the stamp itself still be considered mint never hinged?

If not, then how would one describe a stamp that had never been either postally used or cancelled, having intact undisturbed gum and showing no evidence of having been hinged?

Hmmmm....

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26 Jan 2012
12:05:55pm
re: Hinging Self-Adhesives

I have been thinking about this as well as I'll be posting a bunch of new stuff in the auction soon. My thoughts...

Original paper backing with no hinges is MNH
Original paper backing with hinge mark is MH
Transfered to anoter paper (had to in the case of booklets) is Not Used NH.

Incidently, what is the letter desination for Not Used? Is it NU?

---Pat

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michael78651

26 Jan 2012
12:59:53pm
re: Hinging Self-Adhesives

The definition of "never hinged" relates only to the condition of the gum of an unused stamp. Therefore, if you use a hinge on the backing paper, you are not affecting the gum of the stamp. Therefore, the stamp remains "never hinged". If you attach a stamp to your album by affixing a hinge only to selvage that is attached to the stamp, the stamp remains "never hinged". If a stamp was issued without gum, the "never hinged" term does not apply, although most do use it anyway, because there is no gum to disturb by the application of a hinge to a stamp without gum.

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26 Jan 2012
01:40:27pm
re: Hinging Self-Adhesives

" ... If not, then how would one describe a stamp that had never been either postally used or cancelled, having intact undisturbed gum and showing no evidence of having been hinged? ..."

Hahahaha

Being interested in Postally Used, only, I am enjoying this discussion.

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26 Jan 2012
03:13:46pm
re: Hinging Self-Adhesives

"Absolution to all of you, my children."

Judy

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28 Jan 2012
04:42:54pm
re: Hinging Self-Adhesives

ultimately the answer is to change the definition of what is a mint condition stamp if a mint stamp needs to be collected with its backing paper.

in cases where terminology has not kept pace with technology, it's probably best to stick to descriptive terms until terms have been agreed on, e.g., "on original backing paper unhinged/hinged".

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Woodstock

26 Jan 2012
11:56:02am

If one were to affix a self adhesive stamp to an album page using a standard hinge on the backing sheet, wouldn't the stamp itself still be considered mint never hinged?

If not, then how would one describe a stamp that had never been either postally used or cancelled, having intact undisturbed gum and showing no evidence of having been hinged?

Hmmmm....

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PDougherty999

26 Jan 2012
12:05:55pm

re: Hinging Self-Adhesives

I have been thinking about this as well as I'll be posting a bunch of new stuff in the auction soon. My thoughts...

Original paper backing with no hinges is MNH
Original paper backing with hinge mark is MH
Transfered to anoter paper (had to in the case of booklets) is Not Used NH.

Incidently, what is the letter desination for Not Used? Is it NU?

---Pat

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michael78651

26 Jan 2012
12:59:53pm

re: Hinging Self-Adhesives

The definition of "never hinged" relates only to the condition of the gum of an unused stamp. Therefore, if you use a hinge on the backing paper, you are not affecting the gum of the stamp. Therefore, the stamp remains "never hinged". If you attach a stamp to your album by affixing a hinge only to selvage that is attached to the stamp, the stamp remains "never hinged". If a stamp was issued without gum, the "never hinged" term does not apply, although most do use it anyway, because there is no gum to disturb by the application of a hinge to a stamp without gum.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
26 Jan 2012
01:40:27pm

re: Hinging Self-Adhesives

" ... If not, then how would one describe a stamp that had never been either postally used or cancelled, having intact undisturbed gum and showing no evidence of having been hinged? ..."

Hahahaha

Being interested in Postally Used, only, I am enjoying this discussion.

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Madame

26 Jan 2012
03:13:46pm

re: Hinging Self-Adhesives

"Absolution to all of you, my children."

Judy

(hah!)

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George

28 Jan 2012
04:42:54pm

re: Hinging Self-Adhesives

ultimately the answer is to change the definition of what is a mint condition stamp if a mint stamp needs to be collected with its backing paper.

in cases where terminology has not kept pace with technology, it's probably best to stick to descriptive terms until terms have been agreed on, e.g., "on original backing paper unhinged/hinged".

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