Arno:
thanks for your comments on the Canal Zone machine slogan cancel. I like CZ postal history but failed to notice the four different varities of this design. I went back thru my CZ stuff and now have examples of all four on a page in my CZ cover album. thanks for the heads up!
You, however, made my blood boil on another page by calling the "steamboat" cover a piece of junk. Shame! you know better than that.
Mike cherrington (kovertx)
Interesting Arno. Thanks!
Mike & Doe, Glad to hear this information was helpful. Of course, the link to the auction is gone now, maybe I should have 'stolen' the auction picture to preserve it. It really is a beautiful cancel.
Sorry that I upset you, Mike, by saying that I am not seeing anything special in the steamboat cover. I actually do not know better, and if you can educate us -- in the other thread -- that would be wonderful. I'll take it that not all mail travelled by steamboat and the marking might be uncomon. However, if I was showing a Penny Black that was torn in half, most of us would agree -- nice stamp, but now junk. Why would this ratty cover still represent appreciable value? I don't get it ...
Perhaps there is a difference between "appreciable value" and "appreciable interest".
I have quite a few covers from various places that I visited around the world, sometimes with an interesting stamp or stamps that are of little monetary value.
Some I use when I give talks about the Merchant Marine or my military service and they seem to generate interest.
But dollar value ? I have no great expectations there.
Charlie Jensen
Lecsnto, Florida
I am slowly back filling some images in older threads that were stripped due to broken links to outside picture hosting services. Because discussions that were imported from the old discussion board cannot be edited, I cannot do better than adding the missing images at the bottom.
Here is the slogan cancel close-up, Cristobal, CZ, August 31, 1940, GATEWAY OF WORLD TRADE.
And for reference, all four different wordings:
it is a great service to fill in the images of these educational threads, and i thank you Arno for taking the time and effort to do so.
David
The attractive June 25, 1940, Ancon, Canal Zone, slogan cancel showing a map of the Panama canal and the inscription "THE PANAMA CANAL -
SHORT ROUTE TO WORLD MARKETS," which is currently offered in our auction by Mterrien begs for comment.
http://www.stamporama.com/auction/auction_main.php?action=40&id=RAxaZPmx3s1xI#PlaceBid
Actually, there are four varieties of this cancel All show a map of the Panama canal but differ in the inscription. In addition to SHORT ROUTE TO WORLD MARKETS, you may find GATEWAY OF WORLD TRADE, SHORTENS SEA ROUTES, and SPEEDS WORLD COMMERCE. These four slogans were introduced in 1937 and used on and off through the 1950s. The slogans were used in Ancon, Balboa, Balboa Heights, and Cristobal, for a total of sixteen possible combinations. It is a fairly common slogan, but obtaining all certainly will be challenging. I do not know how many cancelling dies were ordered; someone may or may not have already researched this question. One possibility is that these were 'travelling' postmarking dies which were rotated among the post offices such that the same slogan never was in use at the same time in two different post offices. Alternatively, there could have been more than one die each, which was rotated within each post office in alternation with yet other (seasonal etc.) slogans. Well, if you get into it, you could have a field day building a specialized collection.
Here is another example, August 31, 1940, Cristobal, CZ, GATEWAY OF WORLD TRADE.
(Message edited by rhinelander on February 13, 2011)
re: Canal Zone Slogan Cancels
Arno:
thanks for your comments on the Canal Zone machine slogan cancel. I like CZ postal history but failed to notice the four different varities of this design. I went back thru my CZ stuff and now have examples of all four on a page in my CZ cover album. thanks for the heads up!
You, however, made my blood boil on another page by calling the "steamboat" cover a piece of junk. Shame! you know better than that.
Mike cherrington (kovertx)
re: Canal Zone Slogan Cancels
Interesting Arno. Thanks!
re: Canal Zone Slogan Cancels
Mike & Doe, Glad to hear this information was helpful. Of course, the link to the auction is gone now, maybe I should have 'stolen' the auction picture to preserve it. It really is a beautiful cancel.
Sorry that I upset you, Mike, by saying that I am not seeing anything special in the steamboat cover. I actually do not know better, and if you can educate us -- in the other thread -- that would be wonderful. I'll take it that not all mail travelled by steamboat and the marking might be uncomon. However, if I was showing a Penny Black that was torn in half, most of us would agree -- nice stamp, but now junk. Why would this ratty cover still represent appreciable value? I don't get it ...
re: Canal Zone Slogan Cancels
Perhaps there is a difference between "appreciable value" and "appreciable interest".
I have quite a few covers from various places that I visited around the world, sometimes with an interesting stamp or stamps that are of little monetary value.
Some I use when I give talks about the Merchant Marine or my military service and they seem to generate interest.
But dollar value ? I have no great expectations there.
Charlie Jensen
Lecsnto, Florida
re: Canal Zone Slogan Cancels
I am slowly back filling some images in older threads that were stripped due to broken links to outside picture hosting services. Because discussions that were imported from the old discussion board cannot be edited, I cannot do better than adding the missing images at the bottom.
Here is the slogan cancel close-up, Cristobal, CZ, August 31, 1940, GATEWAY OF WORLD TRADE.
And for reference, all four different wordings:
re: Canal Zone Slogan Cancels
it is a great service to fill in the images of these educational threads, and i thank you Arno for taking the time and effort to do so.
David