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Canada/Covers & Postmarks : FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

 

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17 Nov 2009
12:59:00pm
I am working on a presentation for my stamp club, the BC Philatelic Society. Could someone with a recent edition of The Unitrade Specialized Catalogue of Canadian Stamps check the values for First Day Covers of Canada CE3 and CE4?

Actually, I could use values for MNH and used singles as well. My old catalogue shows a never-hinged premium of 50%. I would appreciate having values that take the current premium into account

Thanks,

Bob

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Liz

17 Nov 2009
02:33:11pm
re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Hi Bob;

According to the 2009 Unitrade catalogue here are the values for CE3 and CE4

CE3 NH% 50% *VF 7.50 *F 4.00 Add 50% to Mint Value if Never Hinged

Used VF 6.00 Fine 4.00
FDC $18.00


CE4 NH% 50% *VF 7.50 *F 4.00 Add 50% to Mint Value if Never Hinged

Used VF 6.00 Fine 4.00
FDC $175.00

You will find that in the Unitrade catalogue there is a NH% factor shown for most if not all stamps issued in 1948 and earlier years.

Liz

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Glorian

17 Nov 2009
02:33:27pm
re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Bob,
2009 Unitrade has FDC for E3 @ 18.00 and E4 @ 175.00.
For those who asked am feeling a bit better today.
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19 Nov 2009
09:50:19pm
re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Thanks Liz and Glorian,

My older Unitrade indicates that only 300,000 CE3s were issued, or one third the number of CE4s. Isn't it curious that the stamp values are identical?

It would be interesting to know more about the first day covers. It's hard to believe that there was an official FDC for CE4, given the highly political nature of the French accent error on CE3 which made it necessary. If there were an official FDC, it must not have been well advertised, hence the extreme difference in value from the FDC for CE3. Anyone know anything about this?

Bob

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10 Dec 2009
07:29:52pm
re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Pretty unlikely. I've been collecting this type of material for 15 years or so, and I've never seen either FDC. 300,000 is a very small amount of covers -- if one is listed on Stamporama, you'll find yourself in a bidding war with me! :-)

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12 Dec 2009
01:00:51pm
re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

FDC's of CE3 are not uncommon. One comes across them as part of complete sets of the 1946 Peace issue, either as singles or in combo with other values. Here are a couple of examples

CE3-fdc
Peace-fdc1
Peace-fdc2

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12 Dec 2009
02:10:07pm
re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Hmmm... A CE-4 FDC. As the German soldier from "Laugh In" would say, "Verrry eenteresting..." I assume, since this is an unofficial, unaddressed, very bland cover that you'll be offering it in the Stamporama Auction for a penny? What was that about the spelling of "ass-u-me"? :-)

Thanks for enlightening me, Roy. Would you mind if I used that image in future web pages or PowerPoint presentations?

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12 Dec 2009
04:51:36pm
re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Feel free to use the picture as you like.

As to the blandness of the cover, I believe, (but can't support the opinion) that the reissue was unannounced, and thus only those close to the Post Office and Philatelic Agency were aware of it and had the opportunity to create first day covers. This would account for the high catalogue value. I have never seen a cacheted example of a CE4 FDC.

I have (most of) a set of Arch and Maple Leaf issue FDCs of the 1930s and the same thing happened then. The issues were not announced in advance, and about the only FDCs in existence were created by an employee of the of the Post Office, a Mr. T.R. Legault, and are addressed to him, or his friend, Mr. Brophy.

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17 Nov 2009
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I am working on a presentation for my stamp club, the BC Philatelic Society. Could someone with a recent edition of The Unitrade Specialized Catalogue of Canadian Stamps check the values for First Day Covers of Canada CE3 and CE4?

Actually, I could use values for MNH and used singles as well. My old catalogue shows a never-hinged premium of 50%. I would appreciate having values that take the current premium into account

Thanks,

Bob

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Liz

17 Nov 2009
02:33:11pm

re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Hi Bob;

According to the 2009 Unitrade catalogue here are the values for CE3 and CE4

CE3 NH% 50% *VF 7.50 *F 4.00 Add 50% to Mint Value if Never Hinged

Used VF 6.00 Fine 4.00
FDC $18.00


CE4 NH% 50% *VF 7.50 *F 4.00 Add 50% to Mint Value if Never Hinged

Used VF 6.00 Fine 4.00
FDC $175.00

You will find that in the Unitrade catalogue there is a NH% factor shown for most if not all stamps issued in 1948 and earlier years.

Liz

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Glorian

17 Nov 2009
02:33:27pm

re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Bob,
2009 Unitrade has FDC for E3 @ 18.00 and E4 @ 175.00.
For those who asked am feeling a bit better today.
Glorian

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19 Nov 2009
09:50:19pm

re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Thanks Liz and Glorian,

My older Unitrade indicates that only 300,000 CE3s were issued, or one third the number of CE4s. Isn't it curious that the stamp values are identical?

It would be interesting to know more about the first day covers. It's hard to believe that there was an official FDC for CE4, given the highly political nature of the French accent error on CE3 which made it necessary. If there were an official FDC, it must not have been well advertised, hence the extreme difference in value from the FDC for CE3. Anyone know anything about this?

Bob

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10 Dec 2009
07:29:52pm

re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Pretty unlikely. I've been collecting this type of material for 15 years or so, and I've never seen either FDC. 300,000 is a very small amount of covers -- if one is listed on Stamporama, you'll find yourself in a bidding war with me! :-)

Bob

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12 Dec 2009
01:00:51pm

re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

FDC's of CE3 are not uncommon. One comes across them as part of complete sets of the 1946 Peace issue, either as singles or in combo with other values. Here are a couple of examples

CE3-fdc
Peace-fdc1
Peace-fdc2

Roy

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Bobstamp

12 Dec 2009
02:10:07pm

re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Hmmm... A CE-4 FDC. As the German soldier from "Laugh In" would say, "Verrry eenteresting..." I assume, since this is an unofficial, unaddressed, very bland cover that you'll be offering it in the Stamporama Auction for a penny? What was that about the spelling of "ass-u-me"? :-)

Thanks for enlightening me, Roy. Would you mind if I used that image in future web pages or PowerPoint presentations?

Bob

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12 Dec 2009
04:51:36pm

re: FDC value for Canada CE3 & CE4

Feel free to use the picture as you like.

As to the blandness of the cover, I believe, (but can't support the opinion) that the reissue was unannounced, and thus only those close to the Post Office and Philatelic Agency were aware of it and had the opportunity to create first day covers. This would account for the high catalogue value. I have never seen a cacheted example of a CE4 FDC.

I have (most of) a set of Arch and Maple Leaf issue FDCs of the 1930s and the same thing happened then. The issues were not announced in advance, and about the only FDCs in existence were created by an employee of the of the Post Office, a Mr. T.R. Legault, and are addressed to him, or his friend, Mr. Brophy.

Roy

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