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14 May 2009
05:57:15pm
As we all know, the old Dennison hinges were really one of the best out there, and they are no longer available, at least not a reasonable price, so would like to know if anyone knows where to find those "Green hinges" that I have been finding in albums that I am stripping stamps from. They seem to work just as well as the Dennison, but I don't recall seeing them advertised anywhere. Any advice or suggestions from anyone would be appreciated.
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15 May 2009
09:11:38pm
re: Green hinges...

Sadly, there don't seem to be any stamp hinges equal to the old Dennisons (that's Dennison with "son" at the end, not "sen". Dennisen hinges are wannbes that don't measure up).

However, you can still buy Dennison hinges if your pockets are deep enough. There are currently four or five offerings on eBay, including a Buy-It-Now at $18. That's a lot of money compared to the original price, but maybe not so much considering how good those hinges are compared to anything else that's available. I expect that there are going to be many packets of Dennison hinges offered for sale in coming years; they will come, of course, from the estates of collectors from the heyday of collecting.

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Liz

15 May 2009
10:18:25pm

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Here is a picture of a packet of the original Dennison hinges.

HingesDennison


Here is a picture of a packet of the Dennisen hinges.

HingesDennisen

Sorry I won't part with my packet of Dennison hinges. They are almost as old as I am :-)

Liz

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15 May 2009
10:23:45pm

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Now the big question -----

Is this packet of the the original Dennison hinge packets?

HingesDennison2

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15 May 2009
10:28:07pm

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The last packet scanned has the following on the back of the packet

No: 54002
Dennison Manufacturing Canada Inc.
Les Fabrications Dennsion du Canada Inc.
Bowmanville, Ont. L1C 1A2
MADE IN USA/FABRIQUE AUX E.U.

The original packet is No. 48-064
Dennison Manufacturing Co.
Framington, Mass 01701 USA

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15 May 2009
10:34:04pm

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One more note - the last packet of Dennison hinges scanned contains green hinges.

The Dennisen hinges (scan 2) contains white hinges.

I don't know what the original packet of 29 cent Dennison hinges contains. I don't want to open the packet.

Liz

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16 May 2009
12:18:37am
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I just looked in my box of "stamp supplies" and found four unopened packets of original Dennison hinges and one opened and partly used one. Two of them are Canadian, like this one:

hinges

I will have to decide what to do with these, because there is a greater chance that I will win the Irish Sweepstakes than use 4,000 -plus stamp hinges in this lifetime and the next (I generally mount at least five stamps per year in albums or on exhibit sheets).

I've been thinking about selling something in the Stamporama auction. Hmmmm…. Maybe I'll sell some hinges…. But first I'll keep my eye on those eBay lots.

Bob Ingraham

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16 May 2009
12:22:11am
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Note to Tim: I got an error message when I posted the previous message, telling me to quote the number "1242447542-25105". Well, I've quoted it. I have no idea why the image didn't go through. I'll try again:

hinges

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Liz

16 May 2009
01:18:33am

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Your packet with the No. 54002 is different than mine. Mine has a different packaging and the number on mine is on the back of the packet.

Is that one of your Canadian packets?

I remember hearing a long time ago (maybe 10 yrs. ago) that Subway Stamps purchased all the original equipment for Dennison hinges and had planned on producing stamp hinges. Was this another one of my many dreams, or does anyone else remember this ???




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16 May 2009
02:02:54am
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That is one of my Canadian packets. The hinges in it are green. Just different packaging, I guess.

Subway does produce "Dennis'" hinges, but they haven't been able to replicate the adhesive. According to a post on the rec.collecting.stamps.discuss Google group, the old Dennison hinges were/are coated with adhesive made from horse hooves, and that's no longer allowed under FDA rules. So, will Dennison-like hinges ever be made again? Neigh! :-) Collectors who have tried the Dennis' hinges aren't overly enthusiastic, and Subway itself recommends their use only on used stamps.

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16 May 2009
08:37:09am
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I believe you are right, Liz, but, if memory serves, the result wasn't what they had hoped for.

Intersting that the FDA would get involved in this. I assume that there's a Canadian counterpart.

I'm looking forward to getting announcements of hoove-enhanced hinges from Canada along with my other announcements of cheap drugs.

David

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Liz

16 May 2009
09:52:57am

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LOL - Sorry I'm not taking the hooves off the horses to make stamp hinges - LOL

Would deer hooves work? I have four of them (Mommy & 3 bambis) standing outside my window thinking about eating my flowering bushes.

Liz

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Woodstock

17 May 2009
07:28:49am
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I didn't see anyone mention the Dennison hinges in the green envelope, the ones that are not pre-folded. What's the general opinion of these little critters?

Bob

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17 May 2009
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I haven't seen or used those Bob so I cannot give an opinion of the ones in a green envelope.

As to Subway's recommendation that the Dennis' stamp hinges only be used on used stamps, I certainly would not use ANY stamp hinge on a mint stamp, but that's just my own personal preference.

Liz

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17 May 2009
11:11:18am
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An eBay auction of a packet of original Dennison hinges is going to end today at 1:50 p.m. EDT. The minimum bid is US $7.95 and there have been no bids. The lot # is 120419649059.

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17 May 2009
09:43:19pm
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I have Dennison hinges as well, with various different packaging including the green and black packages.

So for Bob (Woodstock), the answer is yes - they work and are the same hinges.


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Gerald

18 May 2009
09:44:22pm
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I saw Dennison hinges for sale at a shop in the Shinjuku Stamp Centre, Tokyo, on Sunday at 500 Yen per packet (a little over US$5.00 at present)....g

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Mike, The shirt says "Trust me I am a Philatelist".
14 May 2009
05:57:15pm

As we all know, the old Dennison hinges were really one of the best out there, and they are no longer available, at least not a reasonable price, so would like to know if anyone knows where to find those "Green hinges" that I have been finding in albums that I am stripping stamps from. They seem to work just as well as the Dennison, but I don't recall seeing them advertised anywhere. Any advice or suggestions from anyone would be appreciated.
Thanks,

Mike

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15 May 2009
09:11:38pm

re: Green hinges...

Sadly, there don't seem to be any stamp hinges equal to the old Dennisons (that's Dennison with "son" at the end, not "sen". Dennisen hinges are wannbes that don't measure up).

However, you can still buy Dennison hinges if your pockets are deep enough. There are currently four or five offerings on eBay, including a Buy-It-Now at $18. That's a lot of money compared to the original price, but maybe not so much considering how good those hinges are compared to anything else that's available. I expect that there are going to be many packets of Dennison hinges offered for sale in coming years; they will come, of course, from the estates of collectors from the heyday of collecting.

Bob Ingraham

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Liz

15 May 2009
10:18:25pm

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re: Green hinges...

Here is a picture of a packet of the original Dennison hinges.

HingesDennison


Here is a picture of a packet of the Dennisen hinges.

HingesDennisen

Sorry I won't part with my packet of Dennison hinges. They are almost as old as I am :-)

Liz

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15 May 2009
10:23:45pm

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Now the big question -----

Is this packet of the the original Dennison hinge packets?

HingesDennison2

Liz

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15 May 2009
10:28:07pm

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re: Green hinges...

The last packet scanned has the following on the back of the packet

No: 54002
Dennison Manufacturing Canada Inc.
Les Fabrications Dennsion du Canada Inc.
Bowmanville, Ont. L1C 1A2
MADE IN USA/FABRIQUE AUX E.U.

The original packet is No. 48-064
Dennison Manufacturing Co.
Framington, Mass 01701 USA

Liz

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Liz

15 May 2009
10:34:04pm

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re: Green hinges...

One more note - the last packet of Dennison hinges scanned contains green hinges.

The Dennisen hinges (scan 2) contains white hinges.

I don't know what the original packet of 29 cent Dennison hinges contains. I don't want to open the packet.

Liz

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16 May 2009
12:18:37am

re: Green hinges...

I just looked in my box of "stamp supplies" and found four unopened packets of original Dennison hinges and one opened and partly used one. Two of them are Canadian, like this one:

hinges

I will have to decide what to do with these, because there is a greater chance that I will win the Irish Sweepstakes than use 4,000 -plus stamp hinges in this lifetime and the next (I generally mount at least five stamps per year in albums or on exhibit sheets).

I've been thinking about selling something in the Stamporama auction. Hmmmm…. Maybe I'll sell some hinges…. But first I'll keep my eye on those eBay lots.

Bob Ingraham

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16 May 2009
12:22:11am

re: Green hinges...

Note to Tim: I got an error message when I posted the previous message, telling me to quote the number "1242447542-25105". Well, I've quoted it. I have no idea why the image didn't go through. I'll try again:

hinges

Bob

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Liz

16 May 2009
01:18:33am

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re: Green hinges...

Your packet with the No. 54002 is different than mine. Mine has a different packaging and the number on mine is on the back of the packet.

Is that one of your Canadian packets?

I remember hearing a long time ago (maybe 10 yrs. ago) that Subway Stamps purchased all the original equipment for Dennison hinges and had planned on producing stamp hinges. Was this another one of my many dreams, or does anyone else remember this ???




Liz

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16 May 2009
02:02:54am

re: Green hinges...

That is one of my Canadian packets. The hinges in it are green. Just different packaging, I guess.

Subway does produce "Dennis'" hinges, but they haven't been able to replicate the adhesive. According to a post on the rec.collecting.stamps.discuss Google group, the old Dennison hinges were/are coated with adhesive made from horse hooves, and that's no longer allowed under FDA rules. So, will Dennison-like hinges ever be made again? Neigh! :-) Collectors who have tried the Dennis' hinges aren't overly enthusiastic, and Subway itself recommends their use only on used stamps.

Bob

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16 May 2009
08:37:09am

re: Green hinges...

I believe you are right, Liz, but, if memory serves, the result wasn't what they had hoped for.

Intersting that the FDA would get involved in this. I assume that there's a Canadian counterpart.

I'm looking forward to getting announcements of hoove-enhanced hinges from Canada along with my other announcements of cheap drugs.

David

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Liz

16 May 2009
09:52:57am

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re: Green hinges...

LOL - Sorry I'm not taking the hooves off the horses to make stamp hinges - LOL

Would deer hooves work? I have four of them (Mommy & 3 bambis) standing outside my window thinking about eating my flowering bushes.

Liz

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Woodstock

17 May 2009
07:28:49am

re: Green hinges...

I didn't see anyone mention the Dennison hinges in the green envelope, the ones that are not pre-folded. What's the general opinion of these little critters?

Bob

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17 May 2009
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I haven't seen or used those Bob so I cannot give an opinion of the ones in a green envelope.

As to Subway's recommendation that the Dennis' stamp hinges only be used on used stamps, I certainly would not use ANY stamp hinge on a mint stamp, but that's just my own personal preference.

Liz

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17 May 2009
11:11:18am

re: Green hinges...

An eBay auction of a packet of original Dennison hinges is going to end today at 1:50 p.m. EDT. The minimum bid is US $7.95 and there have been no bids. The lot # is 120419649059.

Bob Ingraham

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17 May 2009
09:43:19pm

re: Green hinges...

I have Dennison hinges as well, with various different packaging including the green and black packages.

So for Bob (Woodstock), the answer is yes - they work and are the same hinges.


Randy

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Gerald

18 May 2009
09:44:22pm

re: Green hinges...

I saw Dennison hinges for sale at a shop in the Shinjuku Stamp Centre, Tokyo, on Sunday at 500 Yen per packet (a little over US$5.00 at present)....g

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