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It's easy to tell this is an offset printing, just check out the dots on the nose, or the toga button.
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No!
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Pray tell...what it is about the "dots on the nose" or the "toga button" that makes this an offset printing? It would really be a big help to explain. Or maybe you could offer a web link to direct someone who would like to learn about these things? Otherwise, there would appear to be a lack of learning and education that does nothing to advance a new collector's understanding of philately. I am reminded of something about teaching a man to fish.
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I don't want to start something here so just let me say "well said Terry" and leave it there. I will add that this site should be a site where you can learn about the hobby. Just making statements without giving a reason is only trying to impress the readers with your own ability and not trying to pass on any useful knowledge. As an ex-teacher I knew many people like that!! The kids always left their classes in a state of confusion!
"The most famous version of the "teach a man to fish" quote is: "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime". This proverb emphasizes the value of empowering individuals with skills and knowledge for long-term self-sufficiency, rather than providing temporary solutions. While often attributed to Chinese philosopher Lao Tzu or as an ancient Chinese proverb, its exact origin is debated, with some sources suggesting an appearance in a 19th-century English novel, ..."
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Agree with Terry and Harvey wrt lack of explanation and information.
Since the OP referred to Washington's nose, here's what Scott has to say. "Type Va - Characteristics are the same as type V except in the shading dots of the nose. The third row of dots from the bottom has four dots instead of six." That appears to be the case in the stamp presented. The OP says it's Scott 527, but that stamp is type V and is perforated. Type Va is Scott 528 if perforated. The illustrated stamp has margins too large to be a trimmed 528 so it's likely an original imperforate. The imperforate type Va is Scott 534. It's odd that the eBay seller has it listed as 482 when the Scott values for the offset printed varieties are much higher.
Types IV, V, Va, VI, and VII only occur on offset printings. Hope I got all that right.
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03:43:36pm
Thanks Tom for adding the information, that took a fair bit of time for you to do the research - greatly appreciated!
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I haven't looked at my Washington-Franklins recently. Turns out I have a block of Scott 534.
Here's a closeup of the upper left stamp.
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Thanks everyone!
That explains what theswedishtiger.com doesn't.
-Ari 
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@tommcf
You are right and I am wrong, well done!
This is what happens when I don't have my glasses on!
Again you are right!
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What is the meaning of your posting "???????"
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"?????" means I don't understand.
In this case, Ari did not understand why you did not contact the seller of the stamp in the listing you found to be incorrectly identified.
In other words, he is asking why you didn't let them know the correct ID for the stamp they are selling.
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Perhaps he was referring to the reference to "Theswedishtiger". Although it is a great site I use often, it's not as common a referral as Stampsmarter for general philatelic knowledge or Frajola's site for postal history.
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??????? = why can't you just answer the questions lighter, seriously dude!
-Ari
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?????? could mean a lot of different questions, the problem is I don't know which question you are asking.
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Okay, how about let them know, and hep out the philatelic community!
It takes 30 seconds to write a nice ebay message.
They are usually glad to hear it.
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But they are not always glad, they sometimes block you from bidding ever!
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Even tho I posted the wrong Scott number, this is a nice looking stamp!
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On ebay today there is a misidentification, said to be a 482, but really it's 527.
It's easy to tell this is an offset printing, just check out the dots on the nose, or the toga button.
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Pray tell...what it is about the "dots on the nose" or the "toga button" that makes this an offset printing? It would really be a big help to explain. Or maybe you could offer a web link to direct someone who would like to learn about these things? Otherwise, there would appear to be a lack of learning and education that does nothing to advance a new collector's understanding of philately. I am reminded of something about teaching a man to fish.
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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
06 Sep 2025
11:05:27am
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I don't want to start something here so just let me say "well said Terry" and leave it there. I will add that this site should be a site where you can learn about the hobby. Just making statements without giving a reason is only trying to impress the readers with your own ability and not trying to pass on any useful knowledge. As an ex-teacher I knew many people like that!! The kids always left their classes in a state of confusion!
"The most famous version of the "teach a man to fish" quote is: "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime". This proverb emphasizes the value of empowering individuals with skills and knowledge for long-term self-sufficiency, rather than providing temporary solutions. While often attributed to Chinese philosopher Lao Tzu or as an ancient Chinese proverb, its exact origin is debated, with some sources suggesting an appearance in a 19th-century English novel, ..."
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Agree with Terry and Harvey wrt lack of explanation and information.
Since the OP referred to Washington's nose, here's what Scott has to say. "Type Va - Characteristics are the same as type V except in the shading dots of the nose. The third row of dots from the bottom has four dots instead of six." That appears to be the case in the stamp presented. The OP says it's Scott 527, but that stamp is type V and is perforated. Type Va is Scott 528 if perforated. The illustrated stamp has margins too large to be a trimmed 528 so it's likely an original imperforate. The imperforate type Va is Scott 534. It's odd that the eBay seller has it listed as 482 when the Scott values for the offset printed varieties are much higher.
Types IV, V, Va, VI, and VII only occur on offset printings. Hope I got all that right.
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06 Sep 2025
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Thanks Tom for adding the information, that took a fair bit of time for you to do the research - greatly appreciated!
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I haven't looked at my Washington-Franklins recently. Turns out I have a block of Scott 534.
Here's a closeup of the upper left stamp.
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Thanks everyone!
That explains what theswedishtiger.com doesn't.
-Ari
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@tommcf
You are right and I am wrong, well done!
This is what happens when I don't have my glasses on!
Again you are right!
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What is the meaning of your posting "???????"
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@ 1899 -
"?????" means I don't understand.
In this case, Ari did not understand why you did not contact the seller of the stamp in the listing you found to be incorrectly identified.
In other words, he is asking why you didn't let them know the correct ID for the stamp they are selling.
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Perhaps he was referring to the reference to "Theswedishtiger". Although it is a great site I use often, it's not as common a referral as Stampsmarter for general philatelic knowledge or Frajola's site for postal history.
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??????? = why can't you just answer the questions lighter, seriously dude!
-Ari
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?????? could mean a lot of different questions, the problem is I don't know which question you are asking.
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Okay, how about let them know, and hep out the philatelic community!
It takes 30 seconds to write a nice ebay message.
They are usually glad to hear it.
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But they are not always glad, they sometimes block you from bidding ever!
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Even tho I posted the wrong Scott number, this is a nice looking stamp!
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