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Difficult to tell as your image is small, but it probably refers to the stamps being cut close to the printed edge, rather than central to the perforations.
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If there are no perforations down the side of the Booklet Pane when there should be perforations then the Pane is described as having "Trimmed Perfs"
However "Misscut" is the term used when the printer has, during the production process, cut the book in the wrong place.
Eg Your booklet with the 12.5p and 3.5p stamp columns could also be produced as a book of two columns
of 12.5p stamps or a book with two columns of 3.5p stamps by the printer cutting in the wrong place.
The book would then be described as "Misscut",
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Thank you Ian, I just got my Concise out and the first booklet appears to be correctly cut (X904l), but the other two are reversed, that is the left stamps should be on the right and vice versa. (SG X845l and X845n)
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Sheepshanks.
All three books are standard None have been "Miscut".
In the case of the 12.5p/3.5p Book, you could buy from the post office either the 12.5p column on the right or the left.
A "Miscut" Book would have 2 columns of 12.5p or 2 columns of 3.5p.
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Ian, thanks, would be good if SG put such an explanation (either side) in their catalogue.
Learned something again today, in fact a few things as Roy id'd some stamps for me.
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This is an example on how a book would be laid out prior to cutting.
One can see how a "Miscut" could result in 2 columns the same value.
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I have a rather large collection of GB Machin booklets and other GB stamps from the 1980's. At the time, for some reason, I belonged to a service that sent me the stamps as they were issued. I have enough to fill a medium sized stock book and one of these days I'll figure out what to do with them. It's great material so maybe at some time I'll continue the collection, probably by going backwards time wise. I find the Machins very confusing and really take my hat off to those of you who collect them!!
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There appears to be a difference of opinion Concise states the two in opposite positions ,try these two also detailed as misscuts
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Could you please put up a picture of the fronts of the books, the 12p x 10 and the 10p x 10 stamps.
Please confirm that one is £1.00 and the other is £1.20. If they are the forementioned monetary values then they are not "Miscuts",
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Further research shows that these two books are NOT "Miscuts" but from the scans they have "trimmed perfs".
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Are all booklets printed in left and right or in some cases just one position if I read correctly Concise in many cases just shows one position therefore if I have two with one in reverse is that a misscut,Rich
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To confuse you even more.
It all depends on the book sales value and whether the stamps are lined in the book vertically or horizontaly and what the original make up of the values should be.
It is also best to show the front of the book as this tells you what the make up of the book should be as well as what the stamps inside should be.
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Confusing is correct with these two the top of the Queens head is facing the values on the rear
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The two books of 25p stamps are books that would be bought at any Post Office.
There is nothing unusual about them.
Going back to your original post. I think the person that labelled some of your books "Miscut" actually means "Trimmed Perfs". I would take anything else they have "said" with a pinch of salt.
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Yes that seems to be solution thank you for your expert advice
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I do find these very confusing if you would take a look at a listing on E-Bay by Capital- Collectables a 50pMachin booklet #4 MCC Miscut sold Aug 10th
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I do not know who bought it but I would not have paid £39 with that photo as it does not show the booklet only the pane.
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On further examination I have been wrong. I now see why the booklets you have displayed have been called "Miscuts".
The coloured line in the margin inbetween the two rows of stamps has been designated as the guideline for cutting the booklet when in fact these lines should be on each edge of the booklet.
In the cases that you have shown the "Miscut" has shown little effect on the make up of the book whereas other such "Miscuts" are extremely striking and do not represent the actual selling price of the book. Of course these "Miscuts" are worth far more than the Booklets that have the correct value of stamps.
I am sorry to have misled you.
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Hi Very happy and pleased with your help so to recap are ones I have shown miscuts? because of the guide for cutting,
Rich
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Rich,
Yes other than the first three books shown.
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That is very good thank you again for your advice
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05:11:05pm
Recently received a GB Booklet collection which contains many with the following wording " Misscut" being a new collector of these booklets I am trying see what that means is it a visual detail ? see three samples wording as such any help would be great Rich
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Difficult to tell as your image is small, but it probably refers to the stamps being cut close to the printed edge, rather than central to the perforations.
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06:58:51pm
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If there are no perforations down the side of the Booklet Pane when there should be perforations then the Pane is described as having "Trimmed Perfs"
However "Misscut" is the term used when the printer has, during the production process, cut the book in the wrong place.
Eg Your booklet with the 12.5p and 3.5p stamp columns could also be produced as a book of two columns
of 12.5p stamps or a book with two columns of 3.5p stamps by the printer cutting in the wrong place.
The book would then be described as "Misscut",
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Thank you Ian, I just got my Concise out and the first booklet appears to be correctly cut (X904l), but the other two are reversed, that is the left stamps should be on the right and vice versa. (SG X845l and X845n)
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Sheepshanks.
All three books are standard None have been "Miscut".
In the case of the 12.5p/3.5p Book, you could buy from the post office either the 12.5p column on the right or the left.
A "Miscut" Book would have 2 columns of 12.5p or 2 columns of 3.5p.
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Ian, thanks, would be good if SG put such an explanation (either side) in their catalogue.
Learned something again today, in fact a few things as Roy id'd some stamps for me.
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02:49:43pm
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This is an example on how a book would be laid out prior to cutting.
One can see how a "Miscut" could result in 2 columns the same value.
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re: Machin Specials
I have a rather large collection of GB Machin booklets and other GB stamps from the 1980's. At the time, for some reason, I belonged to a service that sent me the stamps as they were issued. I have enough to fill a medium sized stock book and one of these days I'll figure out what to do with them. It's great material so maybe at some time I'll continue the collection, probably by going backwards time wise. I find the Machins very confusing and really take my hat off to those of you who collect them!!
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There appears to be a difference of opinion Concise states the two in opposite positions ,try these two also detailed as misscuts
Rich
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06:04:56pm
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Rich
Could you please put up a picture of the fronts of the books, the 12p x 10 and the 10p x 10 stamps.
Please confirm that one is £1.00 and the other is £1.20. If they are the forementioned monetary values then they are not "Miscuts",
Edit
Further research shows that these two books are NOT "Miscuts" but from the scans they have "trimmed perfs".
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Are all booklets printed in left and right or in some cases just one position if I read correctly Concise in many cases just shows one position therefore if I have two with one in reverse is that a misscut,Rich
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12:08:24pm
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To confuse you even more.
It all depends on the book sales value and whether the stamps are lined in the book vertically or horizontaly and what the original make up of the values should be.
It is also best to show the front of the book as this tells you what the make up of the book should be as well as what the stamps inside should be.
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01:54:47pm
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Confusing is correct with these two the top of the Queens head is facing the values on the rear
Rich
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02:26:27pm
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The two books of 25p stamps are books that would be bought at any Post Office.
There is nothing unusual about them.
Going back to your original post. I think the person that labelled some of your books "Miscut" actually means "Trimmed Perfs". I would take anything else they have "said" with a pinch of salt.
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02:38:02pm
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Yes that seems to be solution thank you for your expert advice
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04:38:00pm
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I do find these very confusing if you would take a look at a listing on E-Bay by Capital- Collectables a 50pMachin booklet #4 MCC Miscut sold Aug 10th
Rich
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06:16:35pm
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I do not know who bought it but I would not have paid £39 with that photo as it does not show the booklet only the pane.
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06:31:34pm
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On further examination I have been wrong. I now see why the booklets you have displayed have been called "Miscuts".
The coloured line in the margin inbetween the two rows of stamps has been designated as the guideline for cutting the booklet when in fact these lines should be on each edge of the booklet.
In the cases that you have shown the "Miscut" has shown little effect on the make up of the book whereas other such "Miscuts" are extremely striking and do not represent the actual selling price of the book. Of course these "Miscuts" are worth far more than the Booklets that have the correct value of stamps.
I am sorry to have misled you.
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Hi Very happy and pleased with your help so to recap are ones I have shown miscuts? because of the guide for cutting,
Rich
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06:05:21am
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Rich,
Yes other than the first three books shown.
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That is very good thank you again for your advice
Rich
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