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General Philatelic/Identify This? : another phosfo question

 

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bigcreekdad
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20 Aug 2025
04:34:27pm
Third row from bottom. The two stamps with no apparent tagging (Scott 596 and 598). While 598 in Unitrade has a "no tagging error" listed (T1), the 596 does not. Makes me wonder about both.
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20 Aug 2025
04:43:41pm
re: another phosfo question

Tagging can migrate, which is why you should not have them mixed in with other stamps. Can enough of the tagging get transferred to other stamps that, after a certain time, almost none remains? This might be a very stupid question! If it is it certainly wouldn't be my first... or my last!!

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20 Aug 2025
05:41:15pm
re: another phosfo question

Maybe a dumb question, but how could the migrating occur if the stamps are not touching? Kinda reminds me of the Exorcist.

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20 Aug 2025
05:53:18pm
re: another phosfo question

Good point!! I sort of assumed you had mounted them yourself. If they have be like this for a long time then I guess migration is out!

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21 Aug 2025
09:51:12am
re: another phosfo question

Hi Joe...I have no idea how long they've been in that sleeve. I got those, and a bunch of other interesting stuff, winning a "mystery box" in a Vance auction via SAN. I have no idea if I'll make a profit on what I can sell from the contents, but I have had way more fun with it than I paid for it.

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joesm

21 Aug 2025
02:02:09pm
re: another phosfo question

There are two issues of this group, one in 72-74 perf 12.5. The lower values are tagged, but my 50 center is not. I do not have any of the second issuing perf 13.5 so I cannot say if they are tagged or not.

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cathotel

23 Aug 2025
03:27:08pm
re: another phosfo question

My Unitrade catalogue somehow has gone missing, but I recall some years ago becoming excited when I discovered untagged copies of these issues (since that represents considerably greater value per Unitrade). Further research, and notes in Unitrade about the specific type of tagging initially used on the issues such that it faded or washed off with soaking, burst my bubble. Looking very carefully under good light and at an angle I discovered I could see a trace of a stripe where the tagging bars should have been, which I conclude proved they were tagged but faded. That said, there are legitimately untagged issues out there somewhere, but it likely would require a Greene certificate to convince a buyer.

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joesm

24 Aug 2025
08:06:04am
re: another phosfo question

That explains it if the tagging is subject to being soaked off or fading. Thanks for the info!

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24 Aug 2025
08:40:41am
re: another phosfo question

The stamps in my pic are mint w/full gum. so washing is out. Anyway to verify fading?

The stamps in question CV for $100.....no worth a cert.

oh well....as Nathanial said in "Last of the Mohicans"....."they stay where they lay".

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24 Aug 2025
11:31:11am
re: another phosfo question

If it was possible, would a scanner that scanned with UV light be an advange or not?


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24 Aug 2025
11:46:40am
re: another phosfo question

no idea and don't have one

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20 Aug 2025
04:34:27pm

Third row from bottom. The two stamps with no apparent tagging (Scott 596 and 598). While 598 in Unitrade has a "no tagging error" listed (T1), the 596 does not. Makes me wonder about both.
Any thoughts?








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20 Aug 2025
04:43:41pm

re: another phosfo question

Tagging can migrate, which is why you should not have them mixed in with other stamps. Can enough of the tagging get transferred to other stamps that, after a certain time, almost none remains? This might be a very stupid question! If it is it certainly wouldn't be my first... or my last!!

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bigcreekdad

20 Aug 2025
05:41:15pm

re: another phosfo question

Maybe a dumb question, but how could the migrating occur if the stamps are not touching? Kinda reminds me of the Exorcist.

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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
20 Aug 2025
05:53:18pm

re: another phosfo question

Good point!! I sort of assumed you had mounted them yourself. If they have be like this for a long time then I guess migration is out!

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bigcreekdad

21 Aug 2025
09:51:12am

re: another phosfo question

Hi Joe...I have no idea how long they've been in that sleeve. I got those, and a bunch of other interesting stuff, winning a "mystery box" in a Vance auction via SAN. I have no idea if I'll make a profit on what I can sell from the contents, but I have had way more fun with it than I paid for it.

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joesm

21 Aug 2025
02:02:09pm

re: another phosfo question

There are two issues of this group, one in 72-74 perf 12.5. The lower values are tagged, but my 50 center is not. I do not have any of the second issuing perf 13.5 so I cannot say if they are tagged or not.

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cathotel

23 Aug 2025
03:27:08pm

re: another phosfo question

My Unitrade catalogue somehow has gone missing, but I recall some years ago becoming excited when I discovered untagged copies of these issues (since that represents considerably greater value per Unitrade). Further research, and notes in Unitrade about the specific type of tagging initially used on the issues such that it faded or washed off with soaking, burst my bubble. Looking very carefully under good light and at an angle I discovered I could see a trace of a stripe where the tagging bars should have been, which I conclude proved they were tagged but faded. That said, there are legitimately untagged issues out there somewhere, but it likely would require a Greene certificate to convince a buyer.

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joesm

24 Aug 2025
08:06:04am

re: another phosfo question

That explains it if the tagging is subject to being soaked off or fading. Thanks for the info!

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bigcreekdad

24 Aug 2025
08:40:41am

re: another phosfo question

The stamps in my pic are mint w/full gum. so washing is out. Anyway to verify fading?

The stamps in question CV for $100.....no worth a cert.

oh well....as Nathanial said in "Last of the Mohicans"....."they stay where they lay".

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24 Aug 2025
11:31:11am

re: another phosfo question

If it was possible, would a scanner that scanned with UV light be an advange or not?


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bigcreekdad

24 Aug 2025
11:46:40am

re: another phosfo question

no idea and don't have one

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