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Looks like Cuba #259, but the perfs throw me and the color is a little off. According to the Cat, #259 is perf 12 and the color is brown. According to Colnect, "Postage stamps imperforate on one side come from the sheet margin." "Timbre Nacional" on Cuban stamps indicates they are revenue stamps, not postage stamps.
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I am not really sure, but the basic stamp appears to be from the 'Map of Cuba' set issued 1914-1915 (Scott catalog #259). You probably will not find this stamp overprinted in the Scott catalog. I believe the overprint 'TIMBRE NACIONAL' was often applied to regular stamps to re-purpose them for official or revenue use.
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You might also check out https://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp ... It has a conversation regarding this stamp.
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Maybe it is a free franking stamp for high government officials?
Timbre means stamp.
French: Timbre Tax is postage Due!
National Stamp? Official Stamp?
#O?
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It's a revenue stamp. More information here
ETA: Oops, Mel beat me to it above!
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06:16:30pm
I have a Cuba question as well. These two stamps shown below, sorry about the glare, have always confused me a bit. They sort of look like precancels but that makes no sense at all. Can anyone shed a bit of light on what they might be? By the way, there is nothing on the back!!!
Were Cuban stamps possibly overprinted and used in Trinidad?
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The larger image (my guess only) is not a stamp at all, it appears to be some sort of Exposition issue of some sort.
Does this help?
Common sense take the stamp out of the folder, this should remove the glare!
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07:53:35pm
Sorry, but no help at all!! The second is indeed a stamp, an airmail stamp, Scott # C156. The glare is not a problem, you can see what you need to see! My friend was photographing the stamps on her deck and I didn't want them to blow away!
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Joe...
There is no information linking Cuban stamps to Trinidad through overprints. My best guess is that it is associated with the cancel, or some sort of transit marking. It would be helpful to see the entire cover to figure this one out. Sorry....
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08:15:29pm
Thanks Terry, I have done major searching and, as you say, I can find nothing to connect stamps from Cuba and Trinidad! Unless one of our members has the appropriate cover this will remain a mystery! thanks for your help!!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad,_Cuba
There is a town called Trinidad in Cuba, so it might just be the town name in the cancel. The SOR system does not seem to like the comma in the URL to let me make it clickable.
Is Trinidad also just the Spanish for word Trinity? If so, it might be a common name in Latin American countries with a Catholic heritage.
Thanks,
Josh
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09:46:49pm
Thanks Josh, that never even occurred to me!! You're a genius!!!
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@Harvey
Sorry, some how I missed the point on this one.
Again sorry for my mistake!
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02:45:29pm
The point was very simple.
"Were Cuban stamps possibly overprinted and used in Trinidad?"
Obviously the explanation seems much simpler now that I have been told there is a town in Cuba called Trinidad. The second stamp is probably just showing a post mark for the town. The first one really doesn't look like a post mark. It might be very similar to a precancel for that town. I can't find a reference to Cuba producing precancels so maybe it is either an odd postmark or some mark connected to the towns administration. It would be nice to know but that might never happen! Thanks to those who are trying to help!!
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re: Cuba help
Looks like Cuba #259, but the perfs throw me and the color is a little off. According to the Cat, #259 is perf 12 and the color is brown. According to Colnect, "Postage stamps imperforate on one side come from the sheet margin." "Timbre Nacional" on Cuban stamps indicates they are revenue stamps, not postage stamps.
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re: Cuba help
I am not really sure, but the basic stamp appears to be from the 'Map of Cuba' set issued 1914-1915 (Scott catalog #259). You probably will not find this stamp overprinted in the Scott catalog. I believe the overprint 'TIMBRE NACIONAL' was often applied to regular stamps to re-purpose them for official or revenue use.
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You might also check out https://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp ... It has a conversation regarding this stamp.
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Maybe it is a free franking stamp for high government officials?
Timbre means stamp.
French: Timbre Tax is postage Due!
National Stamp? Official Stamp?
#O?
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re: Cuba help
It's a revenue stamp. More information here
ETA: Oops, Mel beat me to it above!
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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
06 Jul 2025
06:16:30pm
re: Cuba help
I have a Cuba question as well. These two stamps shown below, sorry about the glare, have always confused me a bit. They sort of look like precancels but that makes no sense at all. Can anyone shed a bit of light on what they might be? By the way, there is nothing on the back!!!
Were Cuban stamps possibly overprinted and used in Trinidad?
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re: Cuba help
The larger image (my guess only) is not a stamp at all, it appears to be some sort of Exposition issue of some sort.
Does this help?
Common sense take the stamp out of the folder, this should remove the glare!
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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
06 Jul 2025
07:53:35pm
re: Cuba help
Sorry, but no help at all!! The second is indeed a stamp, an airmail stamp, Scott # C156. The glare is not a problem, you can see what you need to see! My friend was photographing the stamps on her deck and I didn't want them to blow away!
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re: Cuba help
Joe...
There is no information linking Cuban stamps to Trinidad through overprints. My best guess is that it is associated with the cancel, or some sort of transit marking. It would be helpful to see the entire cover to figure this one out. Sorry....
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06 Jul 2025
08:15:29pm
re: Cuba help
Thanks Terry, I have done major searching and, as you say, I can find nothing to connect stamps from Cuba and Trinidad! Unless one of our members has the appropriate cover this will remain a mystery! thanks for your help!!
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re: Cuba help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad,_Cuba
There is a town called Trinidad in Cuba, so it might just be the town name in the cancel. The SOR system does not seem to like the comma in the URL to let me make it clickable.
Is Trinidad also just the Spanish for word Trinity? If so, it might be a common name in Latin American countries with a Catholic heritage.
Thanks,
Josh
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09:46:49pm
re: Cuba help
Thanks Josh, that never even occurred to me!! You're a genius!!!
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@Harvey
Sorry, some how I missed the point on this one.
Again sorry for my mistake!
1899
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02:45:29pm
re: Cuba help
The point was very simple.
"Were Cuban stamps possibly overprinted and used in Trinidad?"
Obviously the explanation seems much simpler now that I have been told there is a town in Cuba called Trinidad. The second stamp is probably just showing a post mark for the town. The first one really doesn't look like a post mark. It might be very similar to a precancel for that town. I can't find a reference to Cuba producing precancels so maybe it is either an odd postmark or some mark connected to the towns administration. It would be nice to know but that might never happen! Thanks to those who are trying to help!!
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