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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

 

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26 Jun 2025
07:48:09am
Image Not FoundImage Not Found. At first I didn't think so, but want some other opinions. Thanks in advance.

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26 Jun 2025
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re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

Sorry, looks regummed to me!

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26 Jun 2025
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re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

No need to be sorry....more important to get it right.

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26 Jun 2025
03:35:59pm
re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

I'm not seeing any of the small loose threads you normally see when perforations are separated. There also seems to be a deposit of excess gum around the edge of the stamp. I checked Unitrade to make sure this wasn't one of the very few stamps where the gum was put on after the perfs were done. There was at least one Newfoundland stamp where this happened but I don't know if this ever happened with Canada's stamps! Does anyone else know?

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26 Jun 2025
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re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

Regummed.

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26 Jun 2025
11:29:20pm
re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

Most definitely regummed, and pretty sure it's reperfed at left as well.

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27 Jun 2025
07:20:21am
re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

Thanks Folks. Obviously not good news to a seller, but the due diligence is mandatory if in doubt. In true MNH condition it would be a pretty pricey stamp.

Last follow up question......how much do these things (including re-perfing the one side) reduce value. Obviously, very subjective, but if you have a thought, please share it.

Thanks again.

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27 Jun 2025
07:32:05am
re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

I only buy used so I have no idea how you guys can tell. What are the tell-tale signs? As I'm looking at it, I don't see ANY gum.

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joesm

27 Jun 2025
08:09:35am
re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

I'm wondering why it was re-perfed. Was it done to get rid of some cancellation ink? It is definitely shifted left so the the perfs may be smooth just from handling. Is it a MH stamp where the hinge was soaked off and then re-gummed? It's hard to say.

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27 Jun 2025
09:16:49am
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Joe....can't tell if there was a hinge originally. Looks pretty clean...actually a nice job of re-gumming. I'll put it under Image Sleuth and see.

Just did that and still I cannot tell.

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27 Jun 2025
09:32:12am
re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

My guess reduce it by 75%, but only a guess

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27 Jun 2025
10:10:10am
re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

It's interesting what you run into. Turning it from whatever it was into MNH status raises the value but given that it is off center, I would think that it was a lot of work for little reward. It's fun, though, to figure these things out.

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27 Jun 2025
02:41:06pm
re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

bigcreekdad,

Only because you asked if I were selling it I would probably soak it to remove the gum - I have had little success selling stamps as disturbed gum or regum (big question is always "is the regum acidic?") Not sure what the trace markings under the right hand 20 are/

I would probably price it at 15 per cent of catalog if I wanted to sell it, 20 per cent if I might want to add it to my collection if it didn't sell.

That's just me - I'm just trying to get decent stamps into the hands of someone who will appreciate them. How I live doesn't depend on whether I make 5 cents or 10 cents an hour - playing with stamps is fun.


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27 Jun 2025
05:53:47pm
re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

Web I appreciate the response. I'm only trying to set a price so it doesn't sit. I'm retired and am doing this to take up dead time, and having been an on/off collector for over 60 years, I find it fun. I'm not saying I don't want to make a profit....they allow you to acquire more nicer stamps to sell.

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26 Jun 2025
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Image Not FoundImage Not Found. At first I didn't think so, but want some other opinions. Thanks in advance.

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26 Jun 2025
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re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

Sorry, looks regummed to me!

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26 Jun 2025
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re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

No need to be sorry....more important to get it right.

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re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

I'm not seeing any of the small loose threads you normally see when perforations are separated. There also seems to be a deposit of excess gum around the edge of the stamp. I checked Unitrade to make sure this wasn't one of the very few stamps where the gum was put on after the perfs were done. There was at least one Newfoundland stamp where this happened but I don't know if this ever happened with Canada's stamps! Does anyone else know?

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26 Jun 2025
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re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

Regummed.

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26 Jun 2025
11:29:20pm

re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

Most definitely regummed, and pretty sure it's reperfed at left as well.

Roy

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27 Jun 2025
07:20:21am

re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

Thanks Folks. Obviously not good news to a seller, but the due diligence is mandatory if in doubt. In true MNH condition it would be a pretty pricey stamp.

Last follow up question......how much do these things (including re-perfing the one side) reduce value. Obviously, very subjective, but if you have a thought, please share it.

Thanks again.

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27 Jun 2025
07:32:05am

re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

I only buy used so I have no idea how you guys can tell. What are the tell-tale signs? As I'm looking at it, I don't see ANY gum.

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27 Jun 2025
08:09:35am

re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

I'm wondering why it was re-perfed. Was it done to get rid of some cancellation ink? It is definitely shifted left so the the perfs may be smooth just from handling. Is it a MH stamp where the hinge was soaked off and then re-gummed? It's hard to say.

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27 Jun 2025
09:16:49am

re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

Joe....can't tell if there was a hinge originally. Looks pretty clean...actually a nice job of re-gumming. I'll put it under Image Sleuth and see.

Just did that and still I cannot tell.

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27 Jun 2025
09:32:12am

re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

My guess reduce it by 75%, but only a guess

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27 Jun 2025
10:10:10am

re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

It's interesting what you run into. Turning it from whatever it was into MNH status raises the value but given that it is off center, I would think that it was a lot of work for little reward. It's fun, though, to figure these things out.

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27 Jun 2025
02:41:06pm

re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

bigcreekdad,

Only because you asked if I were selling it I would probably soak it to remove the gum - I have had little success selling stamps as disturbed gum or regum (big question is always "is the regum acidic?") Not sure what the trace markings under the right hand 20 are/

I would probably price it at 15 per cent of catalog if I wanted to sell it, 20 per cent if I might want to add it to my collection if it didn't sell.

That's just me - I'm just trying to get decent stamps into the hands of someone who will appreciate them. How I live doesn't depend on whether I make 5 cents or 10 cents an hour - playing with stamps is fun.


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27 Jun 2025
05:53:47pm

re: Canada Scott 84....Re-gummed?

Web I appreciate the response. I'm only trying to set a price so it doesn't sit. I'm retired and am doing this to take up dead time, and having been an on/off collector for over 60 years, I find it fun. I'm not saying I don't want to make a profit....they allow you to acquire more nicer stamps to sell.

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