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What tools do you use?
I use a strong bright light, a merit gauge ruler in millimeters and a Precision U.S. Specialty Multi Gauge that is an Overlay. I also have references on hand in the form of books and catalogs.
Here is a list of references I use.
Scott U.S. Specialized catalog
United States Grills By WM. L. Stevenson
and
Notes On The Grilled Issues of The United States by Lester G. Brookman
There are some others.
Before anyone says well just count the points. If you do that one can get close. But close only counts in games of horse shoes, poison gas, artillery, hand grenades and atomic bombs.
Here is a case for the point. The measurements for an E grill are 11mm x 13mm with approximately 14 to 15 points x 17 points facing down and the measurements fro a Z grill are 11mm x 14mm with approximately 13 to 14 x 18 points that also face down. That my friends is only a difference of 1mm and can also be the difference between a stamp worth less than $20 or one that is worth thousands.
One mm is hard for most people to ID the difference with the naked eye let alone count the points. Which is just absurd to me especially when some grills on stamps aren't even complete or have gone under a press and can no longer be seen accept under strong magnification.
So what says all you SOR experts? Let's hear it.
Jeremy
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Sir
Some where years ago in an article (maybe Linn's) a magnifer used for counting strings in a fabic was used. The magnifier had a small wheel to turn and a pointer would move. The magnifier was small maybe 2"x2". The article said you could count the individual grills this way.
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That is a tool I have never heard of or seen. I feature how something like that would be very useful. Now my curiosity is peaked. I bet I can make a jig for that purpose. After all I have a metal lathe and a drill press with a milling vice. That is an easy project.
Thanks for sharing Dave.
Jeremy
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Sir
I just checked Ebay and found one that looks interesting.
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These are called linen testers. There are many types: plain, lighted, measurement devices etc. They are also used in commercial agriculture to scout for mites and insects. Very useful.
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Have you tried them on counting grills on stamps?
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I have one of these! Never used it on a gril though!
If I can find where it went...
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This is what I want to see on my Grill:-
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04:04:08pm
This question is for all of who think they are experts at identifying grills. What is your method's to positively beyond the shadow of any doubt ID any grill? Granted some are what they are. Such as the G grill used on the U.S. 1869 pictorial issues or an A grill that covers the entire stamp.
What tools do you use?
I use a strong bright light, a merit gauge ruler in millimeters and a Precision U.S. Specialty Multi Gauge that is an Overlay. I also have references on hand in the form of books and catalogs.
Here is a list of references I use.
Scott U.S. Specialized catalog
United States Grills By WM. L. Stevenson
and
Notes On The Grilled Issues of The United States by Lester G. Brookman
There are some others.
Before anyone says well just count the points. If you do that one can get close. But close only counts in games of horse shoes, poison gas, artillery, hand grenades and atomic bombs.
Here is a case for the point. The measurements for an E grill are 11mm x 13mm with approximately 14 to 15 points x 17 points facing down and the measurements fro a Z grill are 11mm x 14mm with approximately 13 to 14 x 18 points that also face down. That my friends is only a difference of 1mm and can also be the difference between a stamp worth less than $20 or one that is worth thousands.
One mm is hard for most people to ID the difference with the naked eye let alone count the points. Which is just absurd to me especially when some grills on stamps aren't even complete or have gone under a press and can no longer be seen accept under strong magnification.
So what says all you SOR experts? Let's hear it.
Jeremy
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Sir
Some where years ago in an article (maybe Linn's) a magnifer used for counting strings in a fabic was used. The magnifier had a small wheel to turn and a pointer would move. The magnifier was small maybe 2"x2". The article said you could count the individual grills this way.
Dave
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05:35:24pm
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That is a tool I have never heard of or seen. I feature how something like that would be very useful. Now my curiosity is peaked. I bet I can make a jig for that purpose. After all I have a metal lathe and a drill press with a milling vice. That is an easy project.
Thanks for sharing Dave.
Jeremy
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re: Grills
Sir
I just checked Ebay and found one that looks interesting.
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08:27:20am
re: Grills
These are called linen testers. There are many types: plain, lighted, measurement devices etc. They are also used in commercial agriculture to scout for mites and insects. Very useful.
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Have you tried them on counting grills on stamps?
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I have one of these! Never used it on a gril though!
If I can find where it went...
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05:50:17pm
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This is what I want to see on my Grill:-
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