It is not the give away that is the problem, it is the word free . Free means at no cost whatsoever.
Perhaps your wording should be "available for the cost of mailing, please send sae".
As an aside, last summer our local CO-OP was giving away a 12 pack of water if your till receipt went over a certain figure, when the till lady grabbed a pack and scanned it, I was charged an Eco fee, so I had her cancel saying, it's not free then.
Edit, ps trash means rubbish, rather than unwanted or damaged.
David,
Keep offering your free stamps. I have received several of your offers, Thank You!
This is silly to complain about free stamps, if you’re not interested don’t respond, quite simple.
Vince
While I guess I can see his point, I disagree. Free refers to the item.
1899,
It's your stuff, your rules. If someone wants it bad enough then let them eat a little crow and agrivate their carpal tunnel syndrome and send you a self addressed stamped envelope to receive the stuff you don't wan't. I don't have a problem with it. It is a way to establish a repore and friendship is the way I see it.
Maybe I'm missing something?
I also have no issues with the use of the english words trash and free. Let me put it into a perspective that maybe everyone can understand. I see 1899's use of those two words as tools to motivate those that want what he doesn't want to take some initiative and make an effort to correspond beyond the use of the internet. Heck make some covers and quit complaining.
Grow up and cut the man some slack.
Jeremy
PS 1899,
Those were some really nice wine stamps you offered up for free or the cost of a self addressed stamped envelope. Boo hoo
I believe everyone understands what free is and that there could be some cost or effort to get it. We have a site where we can offer up "free" items to anyone who wants to pick up. If I see something that is free that I would like and it's 20 miles away, and for this example, I get 20 mpg then it will cost me 2 gallons or at todays prices at the corner station or $6.70 to get the free item, not counting wear and tear, my time, etc. Not totally free, but I think we all understand.
Now, What I don't understand is what does your handle, 1899, mean?
Just so I'm not one sided mine is Stockflyer - an interest in the stock market and my time in the USAF.
1899 means the year 1899.
I also served in the USAF.
Maybe I'm having a bad morning, but I see this thread as a nothing burger.
When I offer "free" stuff, I pay the postage or suggest an appropriate donation to SOR.
I really appreciate what David is doing. When I give stuff away I always pay the postage and just send it as soon as I can, waiting for a SAE can be a real pain in the butt!
Sorry for being negative, but it seem common sense to me that the recipient should expect to ( or at least offer to) pay the delivery. Not to mention the immaterial cost of first class postage.
Now I will shut up.
I take the survey and the underlying question at face value: David is asking a question.
I find his description of "free" as fully truthful. Stamps are free; delivery is not.
I have availed myself of his offers, and find them wonderful: first, it keeps stamps out of the landfill; second, it's generous to us; and, third, I got a wonderful cover back with a rare tied Easter seal.
It's a win, win, win.
just another David
Why are we trying to redefine the English language?
"Free" means no cost or expense to the recipient. The item will be sent to the recipient by the offeror with no strings,
Or, you can offer an item to someone who will provide you with a SASE for the item to be returned,
Or, you can offer to send an item to someone if they make a donation to SoR or somewhere else.
The alternative is to offer to simply sell the item.
I see many offers made on StampORama that are generous and accepted by someone, obviously they are useful to the recipient. I don't see the point of beating up on 1899 for the offer he made or wording he used.
Yes, he probably could have used better phrasing, but he was being generous. If the item is not worth the cost of an SASE, then you can move on to the next thread. If you disagree with him, you can move to another thread.
Then, when you do, show us your generosity, and go make your own offers to the viewers here, phrased the way you think an offer should be made.
MikeL
Just a question. I really appreciate what David (@1899) is doing and asking for a stamped SAE is no problem, unless you are from outside the US. If I had some US forever stamps of newish issue would they work on the return envelope. I'm sure I have some floating around I could use. He offers some great stuff and I've been tempted a few times!
If anyone has any interest in Canada/Provinces I plenty of stuff that I doubt I will ever sell.
"If anyone has any interest in Canada/Provinces I plenty of stuff that I doubt I will ever sell."
SOR members can go to my Hipstamp store (Troutbum Stamps) to see my Canada/Provinces wares. I will gladly deep discount to SOR members so feel free to make what would appear otherwise lowball offers.
I also have pre 1950 Canada/Provinces unlisted stamps acquired in large lot auctions that I will likely never list as they are mostly common. However, if you need something to fill a hole in your collection, I will be happy to send to you at no charge. I'll leave it up to you, but you consider a small donation to SOR.
If you are going to submit some offers message me. My normal offer policy is to outright reject anything more than 40%. I will not apply this to SOR members.
David,
your free lots are THE BEST!
IU would always pay postage, and find it a shame if you stopped.
That lot you offered this morning was AWESOME!
To bad I was not fast enough though, but I have already saved the section you post in, and hope you keep doing so.
-Ari
If you don't like the free stamps, can you return them and ask for a refund of the not free shipping cost?
rrr...
@Terry & @Everybody
Terry posted that my free trash stamps are not really free as it requires $1.50 for postage to get my free trash stamp(s)!
So I'm asking for a survey of SOR members do you agree with or disagree with Terry?
(Special Note) If there are lots of agree, then I will stop offering free trash stamps and throw them away!
re: Informal Survey
It is not the give away that is the problem, it is the word free . Free means at no cost whatsoever.
Perhaps your wording should be "available for the cost of mailing, please send sae".
As an aside, last summer our local CO-OP was giving away a 12 pack of water if your till receipt went over a certain figure, when the till lady grabbed a pack and scanned it, I was charged an Eco fee, so I had her cancel saying, it's not free then.
Edit, ps trash means rubbish, rather than unwanted or damaged.
re: Informal Survey
David,
Keep offering your free stamps. I have received several of your offers, Thank You!
This is silly to complain about free stamps, if you’re not interested don’t respond, quite simple.
Vince
re: Informal Survey
While I guess I can see his point, I disagree. Free refers to the item.
re: Informal Survey
1899,
It's your stuff, your rules. If someone wants it bad enough then let them eat a little crow and agrivate their carpal tunnel syndrome and send you a self addressed stamped envelope to receive the stuff you don't wan't. I don't have a problem with it. It is a way to establish a repore and friendship is the way I see it.
Maybe I'm missing something?
I also have no issues with the use of the english words trash and free. Let me put it into a perspective that maybe everyone can understand. I see 1899's use of those two words as tools to motivate those that want what he doesn't want to take some initiative and make an effort to correspond beyond the use of the internet. Heck make some covers and quit complaining.
Grow up and cut the man some slack.
Jeremy
PS 1899,
Those were some really nice wine stamps you offered up for free or the cost of a self addressed stamped envelope. Boo hoo
re: Informal Survey
I believe everyone understands what free is and that there could be some cost or effort to get it. We have a site where we can offer up "free" items to anyone who wants to pick up. If I see something that is free that I would like and it's 20 miles away, and for this example, I get 20 mpg then it will cost me 2 gallons or at todays prices at the corner station or $6.70 to get the free item, not counting wear and tear, my time, etc. Not totally free, but I think we all understand.
Now, What I don't understand is what does your handle, 1899, mean?
Just so I'm not one sided mine is Stockflyer - an interest in the stock market and my time in the USAF.
re: Informal Survey
1899 means the year 1899.
I also served in the USAF.
re: Informal Survey
Maybe I'm having a bad morning, but I see this thread as a nothing burger.
re: Informal Survey
When I offer "free" stuff, I pay the postage or suggest an appropriate donation to SOR.
re: Informal Survey
I really appreciate what David is doing. When I give stuff away I always pay the postage and just send it as soon as I can, waiting for a SAE can be a real pain in the butt!
re: Informal Survey
Sorry for being negative, but it seem common sense to me that the recipient should expect to ( or at least offer to) pay the delivery. Not to mention the immaterial cost of first class postage.
Now I will shut up.
re: Informal Survey
I take the survey and the underlying question at face value: David is asking a question.
I find his description of "free" as fully truthful. Stamps are free; delivery is not.
I have availed myself of his offers, and find them wonderful: first, it keeps stamps out of the landfill; second, it's generous to us; and, third, I got a wonderful cover back with a rare tied Easter seal.
It's a win, win, win.
just another David
re: Informal Survey
Why are we trying to redefine the English language?
"Free" means no cost or expense to the recipient. The item will be sent to the recipient by the offeror with no strings,
Or, you can offer an item to someone who will provide you with a SASE for the item to be returned,
Or, you can offer to send an item to someone if they make a donation to SoR or somewhere else.
The alternative is to offer to simply sell the item.
I see many offers made on StampORama that are generous and accepted by someone, obviously they are useful to the recipient. I don't see the point of beating up on 1899 for the offer he made or wording he used.
Yes, he probably could have used better phrasing, but he was being generous. If the item is not worth the cost of an SASE, then you can move on to the next thread. If you disagree with him, you can move to another thread.
Then, when you do, show us your generosity, and go make your own offers to the viewers here, phrased the way you think an offer should be made.
MikeL
re: Informal Survey
Just a question. I really appreciate what David (@1899) is doing and asking for a stamped SAE is no problem, unless you are from outside the US. If I had some US forever stamps of newish issue would they work on the return envelope. I'm sure I have some floating around I could use. He offers some great stuff and I've been tempted a few times!
re: Informal Survey
If anyone has any interest in Canada/Provinces I plenty of stuff that I doubt I will ever sell.
re: Informal Survey
"If anyone has any interest in Canada/Provinces I plenty of stuff that I doubt I will ever sell."
re: Informal Survey
SOR members can go to my Hipstamp store (Troutbum Stamps) to see my Canada/Provinces wares. I will gladly deep discount to SOR members so feel free to make what would appear otherwise lowball offers.
I also have pre 1950 Canada/Provinces unlisted stamps acquired in large lot auctions that I will likely never list as they are mostly common. However, if you need something to fill a hole in your collection, I will be happy to send to you at no charge. I'll leave it up to you, but you consider a small donation to SOR.
If you are going to submit some offers message me. My normal offer policy is to outright reject anything more than 40%. I will not apply this to SOR members.
re: Informal Survey
David,
your free lots are THE BEST!
IU would always pay postage, and find it a shame if you stopped.
That lot you offered this morning was AWESOME!
To bad I was not fast enough though, but I have already saved the section you post in, and hope you keep doing so.
-Ari
re: Informal Survey
If you don't like the free stamps, can you return them and ask for a refund of the not free shipping cost?
rrr...