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Can you see what is wrong with these stamps?
At hindsight, I should have been warned. This same seller has a lot of those dubious 3rd reich "Schwarzungen" and other ultrarare overprints for sale. I think his printer is working overtime.
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Who is this "At hindsight, I should have been warned.", it's really the buyer who is responsible
Perhaps (just a suggestion, no offense intended) you should get a stamp cat. for the stamps you are interested in!
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It is a figure of speech and thank you for stating the obvious. I do have a catalogue, more than one actually, but even then it is easy to be misled.
If I had bought these stamps, I could only blame myself for not paying attention. What I wanted to express is that one should be warned if a seller has lots and lots of very rare overprints for very low prices. If it looks too good to be true, it often is not true.
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Glad I was able to help you!
Hope your future stamp collecting is great!!!
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I spy some Russian stamps from the 1920s. And maybe a few from Armenia...?
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True. Or at least that is what you are supposed to think.
Now take a close look at this stamp for instance:
There is something you easily overlook, but once you see it, you know this lot is not okay as it is not the only one.
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I guess you are referring to the fact that this is not a Russian but a Finnish stamp? One can easily be fooled by the almost identical design.
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Yes, I see them now. The one in the top row, far right is especially egregious.
As far as I can tell, it's the correct Russian stamp with the Z overprint. But the overprint is wrong. It should be violet with no frame around the Z...?
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Scan the reverse might be helpful?
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Most of the Ukrainian overprints are wrong too. Perhaps the form and size of the Odessa type overprint is okay, but it is applied to the wrong stamps. Soviet Union period or even on Ukrainian stamps. The Vienna issue was never officially released so why should it be overprinted?
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@1899: 1. What could we learn from that?
2. This is a picture from an auction site, how would I (or anyone else than the seller who is peddling these fakes) be able to this?
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Unknown, too bad we can't see the reverse side. You should ask the seller for more information.
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I do realize that there are some things you need to see the back of a stamp for but when the thing you're pointing out concerns the front of the stamp then posting the back serves no useful purpose in this discussion. I will admit that if I was posting a stamp for sale, especially if it was a bit pricey, I would show front and back so the potential buyer would see any potential problems there. For cheap items or large numbers of items I probably wouldn't bother. We are all different and, as I've said several times, the back of the stamp doesn't really concern me unless there was some type of damage there. Remember that one of the world's most expensive stamps has the names/initials of the owners on the back of the stamp! I wonder if Stanley Gibbons added their symbol (SG) there when they bought it.
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I said "Scan the reverse might be helpful?", what part of this is not understood?
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Not looking for a fight, but all of it actually. As long as you do not explain why it is important to see the backside of stamps like these, I am afraid I do not understand.
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This obsession with rear ends and backsides is starting to get me very concerned!!! 
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It's impossible to say what you would find looking at the reverse, no one can tell you in advance! Again it might be helpful to examine the reverse side!
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I can't tell you in advance, no one can tell in advance what will or will not show on the reverse!
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"I do not understand what the backside is going to help. Could you tell us what type of information the backside will tell us."
Maybe there's a written confession from the guy who faked the overprints.
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I have no idea!
It depends on the year of issue, country of issue, etc., info in the cat.
This is my stamps that I collect, so I have no idea.
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I did not ask that. What is said it might be helpful to see the reverse!
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While getting ready for this fun trident sorting job, I have been looking at what is available on the various selling sites. On the biggest Dutch site I found this lot. At first sight I thought it was pretty interesting, until I had a better look.
Can you see what is wrong with these stamps?
At hindsight, I should have been warned. This same seller has a lot of those dubious 3rd reich "Schwarzungen" and other ultrarare overprints for sale. I think his printer is working overtime.
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re: One has to be very careful...
Who is this "At hindsight, I should have been warned.", it's really the buyer who is responsible
Perhaps (just a suggestion, no offense intended) you should get a stamp cat. for the stamps you are interested in!
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It is a figure of speech and thank you for stating the obvious. I do have a catalogue, more than one actually, but even then it is easy to be misled.
If I had bought these stamps, I could only blame myself for not paying attention. What I wanted to express is that one should be warned if a seller has lots and lots of very rare overprints for very low prices. If it looks too good to be true, it often is not true.
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Glad I was able to help you!
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I spy some Russian stamps from the 1920s. And maybe a few from Armenia...?
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True. Or at least that is what you are supposed to think.
Now take a close look at this stamp for instance:
There is something you easily overlook, but once you see it, you know this lot is not okay as it is not the only one.
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re: One has to be very careful...
I guess you are referring to the fact that this is not a Russian but a Finnish stamp? One can easily be fooled by the almost identical design.
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Yes, I see them now. The one in the top row, far right is especially egregious.
As far as I can tell, it's the correct Russian stamp with the Z overprint. But the overprint is wrong. It should be violet with no frame around the Z...?
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Scan the reverse might be helpful?
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re: One has to be very careful...
Most of the Ukrainian overprints are wrong too. Perhaps the form and size of the Odessa type overprint is okay, but it is applied to the wrong stamps. Soviet Union period or even on Ukrainian stamps. The Vienna issue was never officially released so why should it be overprinted?
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@1899: 1. What could we learn from that?
2. This is a picture from an auction site, how would I (or anyone else than the seller who is peddling these fakes) be able to this?
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Unknown, too bad we can't see the reverse side. You should ask the seller for more information.
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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
11 Apr 2025
11:46:13am
re: One has to be very careful...
I do realize that there are some things you need to see the back of a stamp for but when the thing you're pointing out concerns the front of the stamp then posting the back serves no useful purpose in this discussion. I will admit that if I was posting a stamp for sale, especially if it was a bit pricey, I would show front and back so the potential buyer would see any potential problems there. For cheap items or large numbers of items I probably wouldn't bother. We are all different and, as I've said several times, the back of the stamp doesn't really concern me unless there was some type of damage there. Remember that one of the world's most expensive stamps has the names/initials of the owners on the back of the stamp! I wonder if Stanley Gibbons added their symbol (SG) there when they bought it.
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I said "Scan the reverse might be helpful?", what part of this is not understood?
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Not looking for a fight, but all of it actually. As long as you do not explain why it is important to see the backside of stamps like these, I am afraid I do not understand.
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Back when I had a bunch! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
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re: One has to be very careful...
This obsession with rear ends and backsides is starting to get me very concerned!!!
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It's impossible to say what you would find looking at the reverse, no one can tell you in advance! Again it might be helpful to examine the reverse side!
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I can't tell you in advance, no one can tell in advance what will or will not show on the reverse!
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"I do not understand what the backside is going to help. Could you tell us what type of information the backside will tell us."
Maybe there's a written confession from the guy who faked the overprints.
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I have no idea!
It depends on the year of issue, country of issue, etc., info in the cat.
This is my stamps that I collect, so I have no idea.
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I did not ask that. What is said it might be helpful to see the reverse!
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