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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Is this Vermillion?!

 

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08 Mar 2025
10:52:59am

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I've been looking through some postage dues, (AGAIN!) and have found these three 2cs that look Vermilliony.
My opions:
Top-Left Unlikely vermillion
Top-Right Seems like a rosy-deep claret
bottom That is the one I think is Vermillion! I have not seen this color before.
What do you all think? None of these three have watermarks, I've checked thoroughly.
These colors in the picture are the same as in the stamps. I used a high-def photo.
Thanks!
-Ari Cool
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08 Mar 2025
08:14:06pm
re: Is this Vermillion?!

High definition has nothing to do with colour, just detail. And even if it did, my computer display, and your computer display, and everyone else's displays, share little in common in terms of the way they display, and are set to display, colour. What seems to be carmine to you may appear to be vermillion to me, assuming I really know what how carmine is different than every other reddish colour.

I was very proud of the beautiful light tan background I used when I was first learning how to create web pages. I was so proud of my first web pages that when I visited my mother early in the 2000s, I took her to her local library to show them to her. I was shocked to see that my attractive tan background looked rather like spoilt mustard! As soon as I got home, I dumped the tan background and went to pure, sin-free white!

My collecting interests don't require me to identify minute variations in colour, so I don't bother. If I'm not sure what colour a stamp is, I just guess, mount it, write about it for a web page, scan it, and forget it. If I happen to find a face-identical stamp with an obviously different shade, I may (or may not) mount it in an album with its mate.

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08 Mar 2025
08:17:51pm
re: Is this Vermillion?!

High definition has nothing to do with colour, just detail. And even if it did, my computer display, and your computer display, and everyone else's displays, share little in common in terms of the way they display colour and are set to display colour. What seems to be carmine to you may appear to be vermillion to me, assuming I really know what how carmine is different than every other reddish colour, which I don't and probably never will.

I was very proud of the beautiful light tan background I used when I was first learning how to create web pages. I was so proud of my first web pages that when I visited my mother early in the 2000s, I took her to her local library to show them to her. I was shocked to see that my attractive tan background looked rather like spoilt mustard! As soon as I got home, I dumped the tan background and went to pure, sin-free white!

My collecting interests don't require me to identify minute variations in colour, so I don't bother. If I'm not sure what colour a stamp is, I just guess, mount it, write about it for a web page, scan it, and forget it. If I happen to find a face-identical stamp with an obviously different shade, I may (or may not) mount it in an album with its mate.

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08 Mar 2025
08:31:56pm
re: Is this Vermillion?!

Vermilion is an orange red, or red orange. This stamp is vermilion,

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08 Mar 2025
09:46:08pm
re: Is this Vermillion?!

I'll take a stab at it. Top left is vermillion. Top right is a little darker shade of vermillion. The bottom is carmine.

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09 Mar 2025
08:43:19am
re: Is this Vermillion?!

Well, in checking the Scott catalog 2017, the only vermillion postage due stamps ever issued were in 1894 and only the 1 cent and 2 cent of that issue also a 2 cent variety of 1914 (perf 10, watermarked?). If it's an 1894, it catalogs for 350.00. The 1930-31 issue, perf 11 was carmine. It's hard to see the color for sure from a scan. I hope that this helps.

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09 Mar 2025
08:28:40pm

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Thanks!
the top left does seem kinda vermilliony! (Is that word?)
I will mount it in ,y book as such then.
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10 Mar 2025
09:48:36am
re: Is this Vermillion?!

Looking in my album, I have the 1 and 2 cent of that issue. While lighter in color, I wouldn't call them necessarily vermillion either. Because they are perf 10, they are definitely of that set, so like yours, they must be a reddish shade of vermillion.

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08 Mar 2025
10:52:59am

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I've been looking through some postage dues, (AGAIN!) and have found these three 2cs that look Vermilliony.
My opions:
Top-Left Unlikely vermillion
Top-Right Seems like a rosy-deep claret
bottom That is the one I think is Vermillion! I have not seen this color before.
What do you all think? None of these three have watermarks, I've checked thoroughly.
These colors in the picture are the same as in the stamps. I used a high-def photo.
Thanks!
-Ari Cool
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08 Mar 2025
08:14:06pm

re: Is this Vermillion?!

High definition has nothing to do with colour, just detail. And even if it did, my computer display, and your computer display, and everyone else's displays, share little in common in terms of the way they display, and are set to display, colour. What seems to be carmine to you may appear to be vermillion to me, assuming I really know what how carmine is different than every other reddish colour.

I was very proud of the beautiful light tan background I used when I was first learning how to create web pages. I was so proud of my first web pages that when I visited my mother early in the 2000s, I took her to her local library to show them to her. I was shocked to see that my attractive tan background looked rather like spoilt mustard! As soon as I got home, I dumped the tan background and went to pure, sin-free white!

My collecting interests don't require me to identify minute variations in colour, so I don't bother. If I'm not sure what colour a stamp is, I just guess, mount it, write about it for a web page, scan it, and forget it. If I happen to find a face-identical stamp with an obviously different shade, I may (or may not) mount it in an album with its mate.

Bob

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08 Mar 2025
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re: Is this Vermillion?!

High definition has nothing to do with colour, just detail. And even if it did, my computer display, and your computer display, and everyone else's displays, share little in common in terms of the way they display colour and are set to display colour. What seems to be carmine to you may appear to be vermillion to me, assuming I really know what how carmine is different than every other reddish colour, which I don't and probably never will.

I was very proud of the beautiful light tan background I used when I was first learning how to create web pages. I was so proud of my first web pages that when I visited my mother early in the 2000s, I took her to her local library to show them to her. I was shocked to see that my attractive tan background looked rather like spoilt mustard! As soon as I got home, I dumped the tan background and went to pure, sin-free white!

My collecting interests don't require me to identify minute variations in colour, so I don't bother. If I'm not sure what colour a stamp is, I just guess, mount it, write about it for a web page, scan it, and forget it. If I happen to find a face-identical stamp with an obviously different shade, I may (or may not) mount it in an album with its mate.

Bob

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08 Mar 2025
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re: Is this Vermillion?!

Vermilion is an orange red, or red orange. This stamp is vermilion,

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joesm

08 Mar 2025
09:46:08pm

re: Is this Vermillion?!

I'll take a stab at it. Top left is vermillion. Top right is a little darker shade of vermillion. The bottom is carmine.

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joesm

09 Mar 2025
08:43:19am

re: Is this Vermillion?!

Well, in checking the Scott catalog 2017, the only vermillion postage due stamps ever issued were in 1894 and only the 1 cent and 2 cent of that issue also a 2 cent variety of 1914 (perf 10, watermarked?). If it's an 1894, it catalogs for 350.00. The 1930-31 issue, perf 11 was carmine. It's hard to see the color for sure from a scan. I hope that this helps.

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09 Mar 2025
08:28:40pm

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re: Is this Vermillion?!

Thanks!
the top left does seem kinda vermilliony! (Is that word?)
I will mount it in ,y book as such then.
Thanks!

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joesm

10 Mar 2025
09:48:36am

re: Is this Vermillion?!

Looking in my album, I have the 1 and 2 cent of that issue. While lighter in color, I wouldn't call them necessarily vermillion either. Because they are perf 10, they are definitely of that set, so like yours, they must be a reddish shade of vermillion.

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