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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

 

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bigcreekdad
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21 Feb 2025
04:20:29pm
It's either Scott 68a or 84. Scott #68 would be Die I. But 68a is a Die II variant, with a #3 Watermark (CCA). Scott 84 is also Die II, but has a #4 Wmk (Crown Script CA). Can anyone discern either of these watermarks....I sure couldn't see any watermark. I've got a darn headache!


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nigelc
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21 Feb 2025
04:54:12pm
re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Hi,

This appears to be die II watermark crown CA, SG 82a.

See the reversed "CA" at the left half-way down.

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21 Feb 2025
05:07:12pm
re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Silly question, but are you using a fluid to try and find the watermarks, or just a black background?

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21 Feb 2025
05:26:05pm
re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

You might try using ImageSeluth 1.2.0

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21 Feb 2025
05:45:32pm
re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Nigelc....thanks. I still can't see it

Sheepshanks....fluid.

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21 Feb 2025
05:59:38pm
re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Maybe this image will help.
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nigelc
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21 Feb 2025
06:17:56pm
re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Thanks sheepshanks. Happy

I like to hold stamps like this up to a bright light.

I'd expect to be able to see a Crown CA watermark from the front with the light behind it.

I don't use watermark fluid but I know many collectors rely on it.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!

21 Feb 2025
06:36:49pm
re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Nigel, you have incredible eye sight!! That's probably why I try not to do watermarks unless I absolutely have to!

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1899
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21 Feb 2025
09:31:48pm
re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

So I ran this thru Imagesleuth 1.2.0 see the scan.

It would be much much more better if you would of this, I expect a image of an image would return crude results.

Better as you have the stamp?

Hope this helps!

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22 Feb 2025
07:40:08am
re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Nigelc.....I could have looked at this all day without seeing this. My eyes must have been born before me. Amazing. Thanks!


1899....that's pretty impressive. I could not load Imagesleuth. wasn't trusted. Damn!

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22 Feb 2025
11:48:58am
re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Maybe soR members can help you out with your identification problems, it would take a little work.

Here are so tips from an old collector:

Cat. number, if using Scott the SIN number.

Used or mint.

Varieties list in Cat.

Hope this helps!


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bigcreekdad
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23 Feb 2025
08:41:57am
re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Finally got the program downloaded. Very neat tool. Thankyou 1899 for pushing it.

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bigcreekdad

21 Feb 2025
04:20:29pm

It's either Scott 68a or 84. Scott #68 would be Die I. But 68a is a Die II variant, with a #3 Watermark (CCA). Scott 84 is also Die II, but has a #4 Wmk (Crown Script CA). Can anyone discern either of these watermarks....I sure couldn't see any watermark. I've got a darn headache!


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nigelc

21 Feb 2025
04:54:12pm

re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Hi,

This appears to be die II watermark crown CA, SG 82a.

See the reversed "CA" at the left half-way down.

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sheepshanks

21 Feb 2025
05:07:12pm

re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Silly question, but are you using a fluid to try and find the watermarks, or just a black background?

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1899

21 Feb 2025
05:26:05pm

re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

You might try using ImageSeluth 1.2.0

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bigcreekdad

21 Feb 2025
05:45:32pm

re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Nigelc....thanks. I still can't see it

Sheepshanks....fluid.

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21 Feb 2025
05:59:38pm

re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Maybe this image will help.
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nigelc

21 Feb 2025
06:17:56pm

re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Thanks sheepshanks. Happy

I like to hold stamps like this up to a bright light.

I'd expect to be able to see a Crown CA watermark from the front with the light behind it.

I don't use watermark fluid but I know many collectors rely on it.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
21 Feb 2025
06:36:49pm

re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Nigel, you have incredible eye sight!! That's probably why I try not to do watermarks unless I absolutely have to!

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"As anyone who has ever been around a cat for any length of time well knows cats have enormous patience with the limitations of the humankind."
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1899

21 Feb 2025
09:31:48pm

re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

So I ran this thru Imagesleuth 1.2.0 see the scan.

It would be much much more better if you would of this, I expect a image of an image would return crude results.

Better as you have the stamp?

Hope this helps!

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bigcreekdad

22 Feb 2025
07:40:08am

re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Nigelc.....I could have looked at this all day without seeing this. My eyes must have been born before me. Amazing. Thanks!


1899....that's pretty impressive. I could not load Imagesleuth. wasn't trusted. Damn!

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1899

22 Feb 2025
11:48:58am

re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Maybe soR members can help you out with your identification problems, it would take a little work.

Here are so tips from an old collector:

Cat. number, if using Scott the SIN number.

Used or mint.

Varieties list in Cat.

Hope this helps!


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bigcreekdad

23 Feb 2025
08:41:57am

re: Another St. Lucia Watermark Puzzle

Finally got the program downloaded. Very neat tool. Thankyou 1899 for pushing it.

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