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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

 

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Al
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20 Feb 2025
06:34:58am
Ted compares software apps used to identify stamps by image.

I have used to Colnect (in part 2)





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20 Feb 2025
12:27:12pm
re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

Thanks Al for posting Ted's videos.
I guess Colnect is still the only way to go!
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20 Feb 2025
02:49:23pm
re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

@angore

I'm totally in the dark about these computer programs.

Do they really work?

How do they measure the perf's? Do they check all four sides for Perf's?

How do they detect watermarks?

Do they detect double transfers and etc., and more etc, plate varieties.

How do they figure out the printing method?

I might be interested if the program can really do these things.

Is it possible to check more than one stamp at a time?






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20 Feb 2025
03:16:34pm
re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

1899, David
It is an image identifier. There is no way to do what you are suggesting.
It is good enough to id a stamp you don't recognize, and that serves my needs.
As it turns out, it gives you a lot more than picture id!
rrr..., Ralph

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20 Feb 2025
04:13:55pm
re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

@rrraphy

You said "As it turns out, it gives you a lot more than picture id!" What?

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20 Feb 2025
06:22:51pm
re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

I you took the trouble to look at the video by Ted for Colnect, which is his top pick, (end of the second video) you would see as best as I recall; Picture id, description, cat #s (several catalogues as reference), issue year, production run, perforation, printing, and even some price ranges (I think).
But for me, identifying a stamp I cannot recognize is the most valuable. Once identified, you can check further in your own catalogue.
rrr...

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20 Feb 2025
06:46:34pm
re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

Sorry I did not know it was free!

Again sorry

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20 Feb 2025
07:32:55pm
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So I ran both programs.

Again sorry I thought there would be a charge my mistake, Ted was just showing basic infomation.

Too bad the U.S. program did not include the SIN number, then it would be much more usefull.

Then I watched the second program, mostly a waste of time except for the colnect program.


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Al
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21 Feb 2025
05:53:12am
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Colnect does not show Scott Numbers (Scott is a trademark) but it does show "Stamp Numbers" that happen to match Scott Numbers.

I have only used Colnect identifier since I use Colnect and it did usually find the stamp. I rarely now go through the printed catalog to identify stamps but mostly use the visual denomination approach with Colnect.

Typical stamp listing on Colnect

Image Not Found

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22 Feb 2025
09:47:04pm
re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

The reviews were quite interesting. One other stamp recognition tool that I have used in the past is the stamp identifier feature available as an option for the SoftPro EzStamp 8.0 application which I licensed a number of years ago and later enhanced with the stamp identifier application add-on. It does seem to be a useful tool but similar to the other applications often tries to recommend unrelated choices for scanned images. It does tend to include the desired stamp in the list of possibilities it offers but you do get quite a few unrelated stamp suggestions at times. I often found it very useful when attempting to recognize stamps in a Smithsonian Stamp for Every Country album which I completed a number of years ago and where in many cases I never knew the catalog numbers of items added to the album as they were picked from other country specific albums or worldwide albums which did not identify the Scott #'s for the stamps in the albums at the point of selection.

However, for Washington Franklin issue recognition the StampSmarter hosted article on Washington Franklin rotary press issue rarities is one of the best resources available.

Mario who is the principal behind the Softpro application has checked in on Stamporama from time to time and has offered assistance and guidance here occasionally using his user name of SoftPro.


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23 Feb 2025
01:02:17pm
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You said "However, for Washington Franklin issue recognition the StampSmarter hosted article on Washington Franklin rotary press issue rarities is one of the best resources available.", why?

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23 Feb 2025
04:02:00pm
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Mainly the detailed step by step approach that was provided plus the factual background provided for the rare items.

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24 Feb 2025
06:24:29am
re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

The software focuses on image - not watermarks, perfs, subtle visual differences, tagging, gum type, etc.

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24 Feb 2025
12:03:05pm
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"However, for Washington Franklin issue recognition the StampSmarter hosted article on Washington Franklin rotary press issue rarities is one of the best resources available."

I can't find this at stampsmarter, would you be so kind to point me to where this is listed?

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24 Feb 2025
02:19:14pm
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https://stampsmarter.org/learning/ID_WF% ...

Here's the link for the article I mentioned. I found it this time by doing a site search using the stampsmarter.org search engine for "rotary". There are a number of other articles on the site about the Washington-Franklin stamps.

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Al
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20 Feb 2025
06:34:58am

Ted compares software apps used to identify stamps by image.

I have used to Colnect (in part 2)





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20 Feb 2025
12:27:12pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

Thanks Al for posting Ted's videos.
I guess Colnect is still the only way to go!
rrr...

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20 Feb 2025
02:49:23pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

@angore

I'm totally in the dark about these computer programs.

Do they really work?

How do they measure the perf's? Do they check all four sides for Perf's?

How do they detect watermarks?

Do they detect double transfers and etc., and more etc, plate varieties.

How do they figure out the printing method?

I might be interested if the program can really do these things.

Is it possible to check more than one stamp at a time?






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Retired Consultant APS#186030
20 Feb 2025
03:16:34pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

1899, David
It is an image identifier. There is no way to do what you are suggesting.
It is good enough to id a stamp you don't recognize, and that serves my needs.
As it turns out, it gives you a lot more than picture id!
rrr..., Ralph

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20 Feb 2025
04:13:55pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

@rrraphy

You said "As it turns out, it gives you a lot more than picture id!" What?

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20 Feb 2025
06:22:51pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

I you took the trouble to look at the video by Ted for Colnect, which is his top pick, (end of the second video) you would see as best as I recall; Picture id, description, cat #s (several catalogues as reference), issue year, production run, perforation, printing, and even some price ranges (I think).
But for me, identifying a stamp I cannot recognize is the most valuable. Once identified, you can check further in your own catalogue.
rrr...

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20 Feb 2025
06:46:34pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

Sorry I did not know it was free!

Again sorry

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20 Feb 2025
07:32:55pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

So I ran both programs.

Again sorry I thought there would be a charge my mistake, Ted was just showing basic infomation.

Too bad the U.S. program did not include the SIN number, then it would be much more usefull.

Then I watched the second program, mostly a waste of time except for the colnect program.


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Al
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21 Feb 2025
05:53:12am

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

Colnect does not show Scott Numbers (Scott is a trademark) but it does show "Stamp Numbers" that happen to match Scott Numbers.

I have only used Colnect identifier since I use Colnect and it did usually find the stamp. I rarely now go through the printed catalog to identify stamps but mostly use the visual denomination approach with Colnect.

Typical stamp listing on Colnect

Image Not Found

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jbaxter5256

22 Feb 2025
09:47:04pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

The reviews were quite interesting. One other stamp recognition tool that I have used in the past is the stamp identifier feature available as an option for the SoftPro EzStamp 8.0 application which I licensed a number of years ago and later enhanced with the stamp identifier application add-on. It does seem to be a useful tool but similar to the other applications often tries to recommend unrelated choices for scanned images. It does tend to include the desired stamp in the list of possibilities it offers but you do get quite a few unrelated stamp suggestions at times. I often found it very useful when attempting to recognize stamps in a Smithsonian Stamp for Every Country album which I completed a number of years ago and where in many cases I never knew the catalog numbers of items added to the album as they were picked from other country specific albums or worldwide albums which did not identify the Scott #'s for the stamps in the albums at the point of selection.

However, for Washington Franklin issue recognition the StampSmarter hosted article on Washington Franklin rotary press issue rarities is one of the best resources available.

Mario who is the principal behind the Softpro application has checked in on Stamporama from time to time and has offered assistance and guidance here occasionally using his user name of SoftPro.


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23 Feb 2025
01:02:17pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

@jbaxter5256

You said "However, for Washington Franklin issue recognition the StampSmarter hosted article on Washington Franklin rotary press issue rarities is one of the best resources available.", why?

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23 Feb 2025
04:02:00pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

Mainly the detailed step by step approach that was provided plus the factual background provided for the rare items.

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Al
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24 Feb 2025
06:24:29am

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

The software focuses on image - not watermarks, perfs, subtle visual differences, tagging, gum type, etc.

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24 Feb 2025
12:03:05pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

@jbaxter5256

"However, for Washington Franklin issue recognition the StampSmarter hosted article on Washington Franklin rotary press issue rarities is one of the best resources available."

I can't find this at stampsmarter, would you be so kind to point me to where this is listed?

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24 Feb 2025
02:19:14pm

re: Ted Talks Stamps stamp identifier software comparison

https://stampsmarter.org/learning/ID_WF% ...

Here's the link for the article I mentioned. I found it this time by doing a site search using the stampsmarter.org search engine for "rotary". There are a number of other articles on the site about the Washington-Franklin stamps.

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