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United States/Covers & Postmarks : San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

 

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24 Jan 2025
12:23:32am
There are 3 types of cog wheel cancels.

The scan will explain the different types!

Would be interested if sor members have all 3 types?

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24 Jan 2025
10:28:09am
re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

I only have type 2 so far.

I'm actually more interested in Michigan Wheel of Fortune cancels as of late.

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24 Jan 2025
10:58:48am
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What's the background of those Wheel of Fortune, it would be nice to see one?

Are there different types?

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24 Jan 2025
12:11:11pm
re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Wheel of Fortune Cancels

The current "expert" in the area of Wheel of Fortune postmarks is Larry Rausch.

He offers a free download of his Handbook on these cancellations at the site of the Rochester Philatelic Society. This is an excellent resource, and Larry makes regular updates as new information is received.

http://www.rpastamps.org/wof.html

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I was not sure whether to post here or in a new thread. I assumed that anyone who saw this information would be more curious about these Wheel of Fortune cancellations if they saw it posted here rather than in a new thread.

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25 Jan 2025
08:00:08pm
re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Here are some San Francisco Cog Wheel Cancels in my collection.

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25 Jan 2025
08:08:28pm
re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Amazing stamps Vince, thanks for showing!! I have a couple (One type I and one type III, I think) but yours are incredible! I pick up fancy cancels when I have a chance and have some really nice ones. It would be a great area to collect but it could get a bit pricey!

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25 Jan 2025
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@vinman

Very nice and well done 3 types.

Years ago I heard there might be a type 4, but could not ever find out any info. Have you heard of type 4?


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25 Jan 2025
08:35:33pm
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Can you name this one for me. It's an interesting swirl pattern, I'm just curious if it has a name.
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25 Jan 2025
09:19:28pm
re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Your stamp was struct twice with a target/bullseye cancel that gives it a swirl look.

David, I haven’t heard of a fourth type.

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26 Jan 2025
08:42:01am
re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

"Your stamp was struct twice with a target/bullseye cancel that gives it a swirl look.
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I see it now, I never even thought of that! Thanks!
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27 Jan 2025
08:39:59pm

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Vincent!
I did not realize that either when I saw the stamp on Harvey's Post of The Page.
Here is a nice and strong bullseye cancel on a 159 6c.
I love collecting fancy cancels on better stamps, and fancy cancels in general.
I especially would like to acquire a Wheel of Fortune Cancel for my set.
-Ari Happy
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27 Jan 2025
09:00:51pm
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"I especially would like to acquire a Wheel of Fortune Cancel for my set."


Me too!! I'm bidding on one on E-Bay right now but it'll probably go too high. Did they come in more than one colour? The one I'm bidding on is black but I think I've seen a blue one somewhere! It's a great fancy cancel!!

"The Wheel of Fortune cancellation was a rubber stamp used to cancel postage from 1880–1887. The F.P. Hammond Company of Aurora, Illinois produced the stamp"

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27 Jan 2025
09:28:55pm
re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

As far as wheel of furtune cancels go, there are hundreds and hundreds used, mabe thousands!y

The rubber stamp companying numerous companies making the rubber stamps.

You should be able find a decent one cheap.

Many different designs for this cancel were made!

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28 Jan 2025
12:10:36pm
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"You should be able find a decent one cheap."


I'll do my best!! But remember some of you have access to ways of buying that I do not. If you are in a highly populated area you have local stamp auctions and shows. That's not always true in rural areas! Some of us just stay home and buy on line where deals may be harder to get on some things. Also as I grow older I am losing my patience, along with other things!Big Grin So waiting for a deal is not as easy!!!!

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28 Jan 2025
12:47:11pm
re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Harvey:

eBay search for Wheel for Fortune in category "Stamps".

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=whe ...

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28 Jan 2025
12:53:56pm
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I know how to do the search but the one dealer who seems to have the cheapest prices is one I have had a few bad experiences with. Also the prices do seem to climb for a lot of them over time. You have to be a bit careful to pick sellers you trust!

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28 Jan 2025
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I live in a small town but do not have any trouble finding stamps I desire, most of the time finding them are easy!

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29 Jan 2025
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Harvey,
eBay can be a good place to get that stuff.
I may get a W-O-F cancel there myself, but I kind of wanted one off cover...
I would never soak on off though!
Here is a slightly Bluer Bullseye cancel in my album.
Pretty nice, right?
It does seem more grey though.
-Ari Happy
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24 Jan 2025
12:23:32am

There are 3 types of cog wheel cancels.

The scan will explain the different types!

Would be interested if sor members have all 3 types?

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24 Jan 2025
10:28:09am

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

I only have type 2 so far.

I'm actually more interested in Michigan Wheel of Fortune cancels as of late.

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24 Jan 2025
10:58:48am

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

What's the background of those Wheel of Fortune, it would be nice to see one?

Are there different types?

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24 Jan 2025
12:11:11pm

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Wheel of Fortune Cancels

The current "expert" in the area of Wheel of Fortune postmarks is Larry Rausch.

He offers a free download of his Handbook on these cancellations at the site of the Rochester Philatelic Society. This is an excellent resource, and Larry makes regular updates as new information is received.

http://www.rpastamps.org/wof.html

Moderator:
I was not sure whether to post here or in a new thread. I assumed that anyone who saw this information would be more curious about these Wheel of Fortune cancellations if they saw it posted here rather than in a new thread.

Please move to a new thread if you feel I posted it here in error.

MikeL

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25 Jan 2025
08:00:08pm

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Here are some San Francisco Cog Wheel Cancels in my collection.

Type 1
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Type 2
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Type 3
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25 Jan 2025
08:08:28pm

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Amazing stamps Vince, thanks for showing!! I have a couple (One type I and one type III, I think) but yours are incredible! I pick up fancy cancels when I have a chance and have some really nice ones. It would be a great area to collect but it could get a bit pricey!

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25 Jan 2025
08:20:29pm

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

@vinman

Very nice and well done 3 types.

Years ago I heard there might be a type 4, but could not ever find out any info. Have you heard of type 4?


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25 Jan 2025
08:35:33pm

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Can you name this one for me. It's an interesting swirl pattern, I'm just curious if it has a name.
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25 Jan 2025
09:19:28pm

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Your stamp was struct twice with a target/bullseye cancel that gives it a swirl look.

David, I haven’t heard of a fourth type.

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26 Jan 2025
08:42:01am

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

"Your stamp was struct twice with a target/bullseye cancel that gives it a swirl look.
"


I see it now, I never even thought of that! Thanks!
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27 Jan 2025
08:39:59pm

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re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Vincent!
I did not realize that either when I saw the stamp on Harvey's Post of The Page.
Here is a nice and strong bullseye cancel on a 159 6c.
I love collecting fancy cancels on better stamps, and fancy cancels in general.
I especially would like to acquire a Wheel of Fortune Cancel for my set.
-Ari Happy
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27 Jan 2025
09:00:51pm

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

"I especially would like to acquire a Wheel of Fortune Cancel for my set."


Me too!! I'm bidding on one on E-Bay right now but it'll probably go too high. Did they come in more than one colour? The one I'm bidding on is black but I think I've seen a blue one somewhere! It's a great fancy cancel!!

"The Wheel of Fortune cancellation was a rubber stamp used to cancel postage from 1880–1887. The F.P. Hammond Company of Aurora, Illinois produced the stamp"

.

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27 Jan 2025
09:28:55pm

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

As far as wheel of furtune cancels go, there are hundreds and hundreds used, mabe thousands!y

The rubber stamp companying numerous companies making the rubber stamps.

You should be able find a decent one cheap.

Many different designs for this cancel were made!

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28 Jan 2025
12:10:36pm

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

"You should be able find a decent one cheap."


I'll do my best!! But remember some of you have access to ways of buying that I do not. If you are in a highly populated area you have local stamp auctions and shows. That's not always true in rural areas! Some of us just stay home and buy on line where deals may be harder to get on some things. Also as I grow older I am losing my patience, along with other things!Big Grin So waiting for a deal is not as easy!!!!

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28 Jan 2025
12:47:11pm

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Harvey:

eBay search for Wheel for Fortune in category "Stamps".

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=whe ...

Mike

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28 Jan 2025
12:53:56pm

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

I know how to do the search but the one dealer who seems to have the cheapest prices is one I have had a few bad experiences with. Also the prices do seem to climb for a lot of them over time. You have to be a bit careful to pick sellers you trust!

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28 Jan 2025
01:45:38pm

re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

I live in a small town but do not have any trouble finding stamps I desire, most of the time finding them are easy!

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29 Jan 2025
09:09:46pm

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re: San Franciso Cog Wheel Cancels 3 Types

Harvey,
eBay can be a good place to get that stuff.
I may get a W-O-F cancel there myself, but I kind of wanted one off cover...
I would never soak on off though!
Here is a slightly Bluer Bullseye cancel in my album.
Pretty nice, right?
It does seem more grey though.
-Ari Happy
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