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Asia/Other : A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

 

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Tim
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21 Nov 2024
03:13:05pm
I was at the Northern Philatelic Library today and one of my friends there was showing me a picture of a George V stamp from Wei-Hai-Wei that he had just bought. Now, this was all a surprise to me as I had never heard of Wei-Hai-Wei. I can't find it at all in Scott or on Stampworld. It is not a country that we at SOR have in our system.

So, can anyone tell me:

1. Does it exist in Scott? Am I just looking in the wrong place?
2. What is the best catalog to use to find information on it?


If anyone is interested I looked up Wei-Hai-Wei in Wikipedia and it was a British protectorate on a peninsular in China between 1898 - 1930. Here is the link to the Wikipedia article

Regards ... Tim


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21 Nov 2024
04:39:13pm
re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

Sg puts it at the end of Hong Kong in the catalogue. Here is the relevant page.
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21 Nov 2024
05:39:37pm
re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

Thank you Vic. Very much appreciated.


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21 Nov 2024
06:24:11pm
re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

The note at the start of SG's Hong Kong used abroad listing for the leased territory of Wei Hai Wei shown by Vic mentions a private local post.

This local post issued four stamps in the period 1898/99 and these are listed by SG in their China Catalogue in the section for Municipal Posts of Treaty Ports.

There is a note saying they list them there even though Wei-Hai-Wei wasn't a treaty port as the stamps are often collected with the treaty port issues.

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21 Nov 2024
06:45:06pm
re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

Hi Tim,

Barefoot's British Commonwealth Revenues catalogue lists seven George V revenue stamps issued for Wei-Hai-Wei so I suspect that one of these is your friend's stamp.

I see the first five of these are listed and shown on Colnect.

Barefoot notes that the other two are surcharges on two of these and that their status is uncertain.

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21 Nov 2024
07:00:45pm
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Thanks Nigel. Good information. I was rather blown away today to learn of a postal entity, I'll call it a country for want of a better term, that I'd never heard of. It was rather fun.

So, we should add it to the Stamporama system, because it is not there at the moment. To my way of thinking it should go under the "British Commonwealth and Colonies" Category. Does that sound good to you all?

Regards ... Tim

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22 Nov 2024
08:12:44am
re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

Hi Tim,

I agree that it's fun when an obscure stamp-issuing territory like this turns up. Happy

That's a very useful Wikipedia article with good maps and images including a George V 10 cents/3d Wei-Hai-Wei revenue stamp.

The British Commonwealth and Colonies category sounds appropriate to me.

Vic's scan highlights one thing that I believe the SG Part 1 catalogue does very well, identifying a lot of "used abroad" stamps.

SG seems to have been adding more of these over time so for example there are some very interesting India "used abroad" stamps used in Africa and the Middle East.

SG uses a "Z" prefix for these stamps' catalogue numbers.



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22 Nov 2024
05:51:44pm
re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

The country of Wei-Hai-Wei is now setup in our system.

Regards ... Tim

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22 Nov 2024
11:41:01pm
re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

You learn something new all the time in this hobby.

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24 Nov 2024
12:49:46pm
re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

If you want more information here are some resources you might want to look out for

I am the librarian of the Hong Kong Study Circle - all of these can be found at most good philatelic book sellers

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hope this helps and is a start of something new for you!

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24 Nov 2024
01:45:18pm
re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

@William(WillLack),

Thank you for sharing these publications. I found these online and have ordered them for inclusion in the collection at the Northern Philatelic Library.

Regards ... Tim

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Tim
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21 Nov 2024
03:13:05pm

I was at the Northern Philatelic Library today and one of my friends there was showing me a picture of a George V stamp from Wei-Hai-Wei that he had just bought. Now, this was all a surprise to me as I had never heard of Wei-Hai-Wei. I can't find it at all in Scott or on Stampworld. It is not a country that we at SOR have in our system.

So, can anyone tell me:

1. Does it exist in Scott? Am I just looking in the wrong place?
2. What is the best catalog to use to find information on it?


If anyone is interested I looked up Wei-Hai-Wei in Wikipedia and it was a British protectorate on a peninsular in China between 1898 - 1930. Here is the link to the Wikipedia article

Regards ... Tim


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21 Nov 2024
04:39:13pm

re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

Sg puts it at the end of Hong Kong in the catalogue. Here is the relevant page.
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21 Nov 2024
05:39:37pm

re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

Thank you Vic. Very much appreciated.


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21 Nov 2024
06:24:11pm

re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

The note at the start of SG's Hong Kong used abroad listing for the leased territory of Wei Hai Wei shown by Vic mentions a private local post.

This local post issued four stamps in the period 1898/99 and these are listed by SG in their China Catalogue in the section for Municipal Posts of Treaty Ports.

There is a note saying they list them there even though Wei-Hai-Wei wasn't a treaty port as the stamps are often collected with the treaty port issues.

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21 Nov 2024
06:45:06pm

re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

Hi Tim,

Barefoot's British Commonwealth Revenues catalogue lists seven George V revenue stamps issued for Wei-Hai-Wei so I suspect that one of these is your friend's stamp.

I see the first five of these are listed and shown on Colnect.

Barefoot notes that the other two are surcharges on two of these and that their status is uncertain.

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Tim
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21 Nov 2024
07:00:45pm

re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

Thanks Nigel. Good information. I was rather blown away today to learn of a postal entity, I'll call it a country for want of a better term, that I'd never heard of. It was rather fun.

So, we should add it to the Stamporama system, because it is not there at the moment. To my way of thinking it should go under the "British Commonwealth and Colonies" Category. Does that sound good to you all?

Regards ... Tim

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22 Nov 2024
08:12:44am

re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

Hi Tim,

I agree that it's fun when an obscure stamp-issuing territory like this turns up. Happy

That's a very useful Wikipedia article with good maps and images including a George V 10 cents/3d Wei-Hai-Wei revenue stamp.

The British Commonwealth and Colonies category sounds appropriate to me.

Vic's scan highlights one thing that I believe the SG Part 1 catalogue does very well, identifying a lot of "used abroad" stamps.

SG seems to have been adding more of these over time so for example there are some very interesting India "used abroad" stamps used in Africa and the Middle East.

SG uses a "Z" prefix for these stamps' catalogue numbers.



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Tim
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22 Nov 2024
05:51:44pm

re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

The country of Wei-Hai-Wei is now setup in our system.

Regards ... Tim

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22 Nov 2024
11:41:01pm

re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

You learn something new all the time in this hobby.

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WillLack

24 Nov 2024
12:49:46pm

re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

If you want more information here are some resources you might want to look out for

I am the librarian of the Hong Kong Study Circle - all of these can be found at most good philatelic book sellers

Image Not Found

Image Not Found

Image Not Found

Image Not Found

Image Not Found

Image Not Found

hope this helps and is a start of something new for you!

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Tim
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24 Nov 2024
01:45:18pm

re: A question on Wei-Hai-Wei and which catalog is best to use with it

@William(WillLack),

Thank you for sharing these publications. I found these online and have ordered them for inclusion in the collection at the Northern Philatelic Library.

Regards ... Tim

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