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General Philatelic/Identify This? : 3 questions instead of 3 post.

 

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abstractist

20 Nov 2024
11:42:19am
When it comes to post marks, I understand that R P O is Railway Post Office, but this is 1 I have never seen TRANSIT?

Also I have never seen a DUE 1 Cent on a post card?

And 1 pot marked World's Fair Portland, Oregon1905?

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20 Nov 2024
08:26:21pm
re: 3 questions instead of 3 post.

The "Transit" postmarks are made by the American company that also made the flag cancels. These were used for a short period of time to record when mail passed through a transit point. In this case Washington DC is a transit point between Forest Glen, MD to Atlanta, GA. These are avidly collected by machine cancel enthusiasts.

I can't figure out why there is a Due 1 cent marking on that postcard.

As far as the World's Fair cancel, this is a reuse of the cancel used for t he Saint Louis World 's Fair. These are somewhat scarce and desirable.

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20 Nov 2024
08:50:57pm
re: 3 questions instead of 3 post.

The "due 1 cent" marking is because at the time of posting it was not allowable to write on the back of a picture postcard in the US (you had to write only on the front of the card) and it was charged letter rate (2 cents at the time).

This clipped from some unknown source some years back. "Postcards with a divided back were permitted in the U.S. beginning on March 1, 1907. (Britain had already pioneered this in 1902.)"

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22 Nov 2024
08:56:50am
re: 3 questions instead of 3 post.

I'm curious about the 1c due on the card.

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22 Nov 2024
09:29:11am
re: 3 questions instead of 3 post.

"I'm curious about the 1c due on the card."


Webpaper is right.

Note that this is a British postcard, used in 1905 in the USA, after Europe changed their rules and before the US followed suit in 1907.

Prior to 1907, postcards in the US could only have the address written on one side, with the other side reserved entirely for the image. This meant any message had to be squeezed into small spaces around or on top of the picture.
In March 1907, postal regulations changed to allow "divided back" postcards - where the back could be split into two sections: the right side for the address and the left for messages. This was a major shift that:

Provided dedicated space for longer messages
Led to a "Golden Age" of postcards (1907-1915) with increased production and usage
Matched similar regulations already in place in European countries

The change helped establish postcards as a popular form of quick communication.

Roy

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22 Nov 2024
10:49:30am
re: 3 questions instead of 3 post.

Webpaper and Roy,

Thank you for drilling down on that. I've been picking up some postcards lately and do remember hearing along the way that there were periods of time where "split back" cards were important to meet postal regs regarding address placement etc.

We see one here in action.

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20 Nov 2024
11:42:19am

When it comes to post marks, I understand that R P O is Railway Post Office, but this is 1 I have never seen TRANSIT?

Also I have never seen a DUE 1 Cent on a post card?

And 1 pot marked World's Fair Portland, Oregon1905?

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20 Nov 2024
08:26:21pm

re: 3 questions instead of 3 post.

The "Transit" postmarks are made by the American company that also made the flag cancels. These were used for a short period of time to record when mail passed through a transit point. In this case Washington DC is a transit point between Forest Glen, MD to Atlanta, GA. These are avidly collected by machine cancel enthusiasts.

I can't figure out why there is a Due 1 cent marking on that postcard.

As far as the World's Fair cancel, this is a reuse of the cancel used for t he Saint Louis World 's Fair. These are somewhat scarce and desirable.

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In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

20 Nov 2024
08:50:57pm

re: 3 questions instead of 3 post.

The "due 1 cent" marking is because at the time of posting it was not allowable to write on the back of a picture postcard in the US (you had to write only on the front of the card) and it was charged letter rate (2 cents at the time).

This clipped from some unknown source some years back. "Postcards with a divided back were permitted in the U.S. beginning on March 1, 1907. (Britain had already pioneered this in 1902.)"

Hope that helps

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22 Nov 2024
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re: 3 questions instead of 3 post.

I'm curious about the 1c due on the card.

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22 Nov 2024
09:29:11am

re: 3 questions instead of 3 post.

"I'm curious about the 1c due on the card."


Webpaper is right.

Note that this is a British postcard, used in 1905 in the USA, after Europe changed their rules and before the US followed suit in 1907.

Prior to 1907, postcards in the US could only have the address written on one side, with the other side reserved entirely for the image. This meant any message had to be squeezed into small spaces around or on top of the picture.
In March 1907, postal regulations changed to allow "divided back" postcards - where the back could be split into two sections: the right side for the address and the left for messages. This was a major shift that:

Provided dedicated space for longer messages
Led to a "Golden Age" of postcards (1907-1915) with increased production and usage
Matched similar regulations already in place in European countries

The change helped establish postcards as a popular form of quick communication.

Roy

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APS 203949
22 Nov 2024
10:49:30am

re: 3 questions instead of 3 post.

Webpaper and Roy,

Thank you for drilling down on that. I've been picking up some postcards lately and do remember hearing along the way that there were periods of time where "split back" cards were important to meet postal regs regarding address placement etc.

We see one here in action.

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