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APS #220693 ATA#57179

15 Nov 2024
10:37:00am
I have a question about this stamp:

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Scott lists this as # 3 under India - Indian Feudatory States - Orchha, but the background should not be solid lines and the color should be carmine. At the bottom of the listing it has: "Essays similar to Nos 2-5 are in different colors."

OK, so maybe it's an essay. Then I checked SG Commonwealth and Empire catalog.

Stanley Gibbons has a similar stamp under India - Indian Feudatory States - Orchha # 5, but the background lines are supposed to be "short horizontal lines" and the color is supposed to be scarlet, Indian red, or carmine.

At the top of the listing is this: "A set of fours stamps, 1/2 a. red, 1 a. violet, 2 a. yellow, and 4 a. deep blue-green, in a design similar ... was prepared in 1897 with State authority but not put into use. These exist both imperforate and pin perforated."

I'm guessing this is one of the set of four described by SG. So it isn't an essay or a reprint but a special printing intended for philatelic use only.

Does that seem accurate?

Lars

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APS #220693 ATA#57179

15 Nov 2024
10:55:00am
re: India

CORRECTION: If this is part of that 1897 printing, it isn't a reprint or special printing because that was BEFORE any actual stamps were released. So this is part of that 1897 printing OR it's maybe a later forgery? I didn't see it in Serrane or Earee's Album Weeds.

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Jack

15 Nov 2024
12:13:44pm
re: India

"I'm guessing this is one of the set of four described by SG. So it isn't an essay or a reprint but a special printing intended for philatelic use only.

Does that seem accurate?"


Yes, that seems more or less accurate. Intended for use as postage but rejected by the State (Orchha).

SG says this:

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Scott calls them essays. Yours is one of the four - not a later forgery. Fairly common

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APS #220693 ATA#57179

15 Nov 2024
12:18:10pm
re: India

Thank you, Jack.

I wanted to use it in a section of stamps that were officially produced by not actually released for some reason or another, and this looks like a good example!

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Jack

15 Nov 2024
12:35:29pm
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Re: Orchha 1897 Issue

The India Post #45 (Jul-Sep 1975) has this say about this issue:

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APS #220693 ATA#57179

15 Nov 2024
01:11:36pm
re: India

That last bit did it for me:

"In the case of the 1a traces of the figure "1/2" can be seen under the "1" in the top left and bottom right corners ..."



Sure enough, you can easily see that in the top left and bottom right corners.

Thanks for the additional info!

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15 Nov 2024
01:46:24pm
re: India

Here is a sheet of Orcha Scott#2.

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Your stamp bears no resemblence to the original design. I would guess your stamp is an attempt at a reproduction or facsimilie.

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APS #220693 ATA#57179
15 Nov 2024
10:37:00am

I have a question about this stamp:

Image Not Found

Scott lists this as # 3 under India - Indian Feudatory States - Orchha, but the background should not be solid lines and the color should be carmine. At the bottom of the listing it has: "Essays similar to Nos 2-5 are in different colors."

OK, so maybe it's an essay. Then I checked SG Commonwealth and Empire catalog.

Stanley Gibbons has a similar stamp under India - Indian Feudatory States - Orchha # 5, but the background lines are supposed to be "short horizontal lines" and the color is supposed to be scarlet, Indian red, or carmine.

At the top of the listing is this: "A set of fours stamps, 1/2 a. red, 1 a. violet, 2 a. yellow, and 4 a. deep blue-green, in a design similar ... was prepared in 1897 with State authority but not put into use. These exist both imperforate and pin perforated."

I'm guessing this is one of the set of four described by SG. So it isn't an essay or a reprint but a special printing intended for philatelic use only.

Does that seem accurate?

Lars

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APS #220693 ATA#57179
15 Nov 2024
10:55:00am

re: India

CORRECTION: If this is part of that 1897 printing, it isn't a reprint or special printing because that was BEFORE any actual stamps were released. So this is part of that 1897 printing OR it's maybe a later forgery? I didn't see it in Serrane or Earee's Album Weeds.

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Jack
15 Nov 2024
12:13:44pm

re: India

"I'm guessing this is one of the set of four described by SG. So it isn't an essay or a reprint but a special printing intended for philatelic use only.

Does that seem accurate?"


Yes, that seems more or less accurate. Intended for use as postage but rejected by the State (Orchha).

SG says this:

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Scott calls them essays. Yours is one of the four - not a later forgery. Fairly common

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APS #220693 ATA#57179
15 Nov 2024
12:18:10pm

re: India

Thank you, Jack.

I wanted to use it in a section of stamps that were officially produced by not actually released for some reason or another, and this looks like a good example!

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Jack
15 Nov 2024
12:35:29pm

re: India

Re: Orchha 1897 Issue

The India Post #45 (Jul-Sep 1975) has this say about this issue:

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APS #220693 ATA#57179
15 Nov 2024
01:11:36pm

re: India

That last bit did it for me:

"In the case of the 1a traces of the figure "1/2" can be seen under the "1" in the top left and bottom right corners ..."



Sure enough, you can easily see that in the top left and bottom right corners.

Thanks for the additional info!

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15 Nov 2024
01:46:24pm

re: India

Here is a sheet of Orcha Scott#2.

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Your stamp bears no resemblence to the original design. I would guess your stamp is an attempt at a reproduction or facsimilie.

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