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grampadennis
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13 Sep 2024
12:44:37am

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I found this in a batch of US airmails. It looks like the C1 Curtiss Jenny but has only a trace of orange. I would appreciate some help in identifying what it really is. Thanks. Dennis

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13 Sep 2024
03:11:43am
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Color changeling due to oxidation / environmental exposure. Orange inks are notorious.

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joesm

13 Sep 2024
08:09:40am
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Definitely an oxidized C-1. It should be a nice bright orange. A dip in hydrogen peroxide may help revive it some. 2017 Sc: C-1 used 30.00. Good luck!

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smauggie
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13 Sep 2024
08:52:40am
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I do not recommend dipping stamps in hydrogen peroxide.

This is a far gentler method to remove sulfurization using hydrogen peroxide:

Cleaning Discolored Stamps

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grampadennis
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13 Sep 2024
12:53:31pm

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Watched the video on Cleaning Discolored Stamps and will give it a try. Thanks for the link.

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joesm

13 Sep 2024
05:34:24pm
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Love this idea better than a dip, although it has helped in the past. I'm going to look through what I have and see how it does.

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1899

01 Jan 2025
02:29:48pm
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@smauggie

"I do not recommend dipping stamps in hydrogen peroxide."

I do not disagre, but what happens if a stamp is dipped?

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joesm

01 Jan 2025
06:26:59pm
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In my experience, it either clears up the problem or it doesn't. I've never ruined one by dipping in peroxide but have cleaned up a few. I don't find those very often anymore.

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joesm

01 Jan 2025
06:32:04pm
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I tried smaugie's method on a stamp that I have. It didn't correct the issue, but then again a dip is less than 50/50 anyway. I would love to see the dipless method work on one.

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1899

02 Jan 2025
01:26:18pm
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@joesm

I know hydrogen peroxide comes in a % of it. I wonder if a higher % would work faster. I looked on line and found it comes in 2%, 3%, and 6%. What do you think?




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srolfsmeier
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02 Jan 2025
02:00:47pm
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I'm gonna repost this here from an earlier thread as it seems relevant.

tl;dr: a ten minute soak in a 3% solution is optimum.

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"'That's just it,' said the Hemulen in despair. 'It's finished. There isn't a stamp, or an error that I haven't collected. Not one. What shall I do now? ''Nature study!' declares the Hemulen. 'I shall botanize'. "
Benque

02 Jan 2025
03:02:50pm
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Dennis,
Please let us know how you make out, and what method you use.
Thanks!

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grampadennis
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02 Jan 2025
11:25:29pm

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I used the method from the video. Placing the stamp on paper towel over a glass of hydrogen peroxide. Worked pretty slick. The colour was almost completely restored.

Thanks for the tips.

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joesm

04 Jan 2025
08:01:38am
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1899: I would assume that 6% peroxide would work better but I'm not sure. Good point. I will have to try it when I find some more of these stamps.

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joesm

04 Jan 2025
08:09:26am
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Good to see that Dennis had good results using Smaugie's method. Also, it is good to know that 10 minutes in 3% is safe and works well also. Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is water with an extra oxygen molecule attached. It's an oxidizing agent and gives up the extra oxygen readily leaving water behind. Even sitting in a sealed container, 3% peroxide deteriorates so, since I go through little peroxide, likely the strength is greatly diminished and may be why my results vary.

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grampadennis

13 Sep 2024
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I found this in a batch of US airmails. It looks like the C1 Curtiss Jenny but has only a trace of orange. I would appreciate some help in identifying what it really is. Thanks. Dennis

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13 Sep 2024
03:11:43am

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Color changeling due to oxidation / environmental exposure. Orange inks are notorious.

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joesm

13 Sep 2024
08:09:40am

re: Help!!

Definitely an oxidized C-1. It should be a nice bright orange. A dip in hydrogen peroxide may help revive it some. 2017 Sc: C-1 used 30.00. Good luck!

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smauggie

13 Sep 2024
08:52:40am

re: Help!!

I do not recommend dipping stamps in hydrogen peroxide.

This is a far gentler method to remove sulfurization using hydrogen peroxide:

Cleaning Discolored Stamps

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grampadennis

13 Sep 2024
12:53:31pm

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re: Help!!

Watched the video on Cleaning Discolored Stamps and will give it a try. Thanks for the link.

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joesm

13 Sep 2024
05:34:24pm

re: Help!!

Love this idea better than a dip, although it has helped in the past. I'm going to look through what I have and see how it does.

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1899

01 Jan 2025
02:29:48pm

re: Help!!

@smauggie

"I do not recommend dipping stamps in hydrogen peroxide."

I do not disagre, but what happens if a stamp is dipped?

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joesm

01 Jan 2025
06:26:59pm

re: Help!!

In my experience, it either clears up the problem or it doesn't. I've never ruined one by dipping in peroxide but have cleaned up a few. I don't find those very often anymore.

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joesm

01 Jan 2025
06:32:04pm

re: Help!!

I tried smaugie's method on a stamp that I have. It didn't correct the issue, but then again a dip is less than 50/50 anyway. I would love to see the dipless method work on one.

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1899

02 Jan 2025
01:26:18pm

re: Help!!

@joesm

I know hydrogen peroxide comes in a % of it. I wonder if a higher % would work faster. I looked on line and found it comes in 2%, 3%, and 6%. What do you think?




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srolfsmeier

02 Jan 2025
02:00:47pm

re: Help!!

I'm gonna repost this here from an earlier thread as it seems relevant.

tl;dr: a ten minute soak in a 3% solution is optimum.

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"'That's just it,' said the Hemulen in despair. 'It's finished. There isn't a stamp, or an error that I haven't collected. Not one. What shall I do now? ''Nature study!' declares the Hemulen. 'I shall botanize'. "
Benque

02 Jan 2025
03:02:50pm

re: Help!!

Dennis,
Please let us know how you make out, and what method you use.
Thanks!

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grampadennis

02 Jan 2025
11:25:29pm

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re: Help!!

I used the method from the video. Placing the stamp on paper towel over a glass of hydrogen peroxide. Worked pretty slick. The colour was almost completely restored.

Thanks for the tips.

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joesm

04 Jan 2025
08:01:38am

re: Help!!

1899: I would assume that 6% peroxide would work better but I'm not sure. Good point. I will have to try it when I find some more of these stamps.

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joesm

04 Jan 2025
08:09:26am

re: Help!!

Good to see that Dennis had good results using Smaugie's method. Also, it is good to know that 10 minutes in 3% is safe and works well also. Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is water with an extra oxygen molecule attached. It's an oxidizing agent and gives up the extra oxygen readily leaving water behind. Even sitting in a sealed container, 3% peroxide deteriorates so, since I go through little peroxide, likely the strength is greatly diminished and may be why my results vary.

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