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United States/BOB & Other : Pre cancel Postage dues

 

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sheepshanks
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21 Aug 2024
04:34:20pm
Sorting through and mounting these today and found a bunch of pre-cancelled ones, so decided to make up a page just for them (thanks Clive/album easy).
Wondering if previous or even later issues had pre-cancels, anyone know?
Yes I know some of us fall into the category of nowt so weird as folks!
Edit. To add apparently they were not issued after 1934, according to the pre cancel society.
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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!

21 Aug 2024
04:52:37pm
re: Pre cancel Postage dues

The first couple series had lots of silent precancels including the famous NY string of pearls. I have a couple douzen precancels as we know them and as you have here. Most of them are from this set but I also have a few from the 1917 - 1925 set, one from the 1931 - 1932 set and several from the 1959 set even though the only ones of those I have are from Guam and Puerto Rico. So maybe the only ones done after 1934 were used in the protectorates. I'm just guessing though!

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21 Aug 2024
06:55:12pm
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There are the mute precancels called ring of pearls from New York. Here is an older post that covered that subject: https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ...

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21 Aug 2024
07:32:31pm
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I still don't understand the need to precancel a postage due.

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21 Aug 2024
09:12:05pm
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Ernie, I've often wondered that as well!!

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22 Aug 2024
06:28:50am
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I have many, many examples of precancels on the 1959 postage due series. They are mostly contract precancel devices, rather than locals, which seems to suggest this was done with the blessing of the postal service since these types of devices had to be acquired through a requisition to PO headquarters in Washington. The earlier postage dues have a lot more local precancel types that were produced by contract with a local supplier. The reason for this is that a lot of them were the result of experimentation in devising labor saving methodologies.

The main reason for precanceling the postage dues was to save time so the postmaster didn't need to cancel large quantities of these at the time of use. Remember that Postage Due stamps were also used to provide a receipt for payment of bulk mailings in addition to the traditional usage of showing additional postage was due. This could add up to rather large amounts of postage paid, so they would apply large multiples of these postage due stamps to the receipts (usually precanceled in some manner.)

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sheepshanks

21 Aug 2024
04:34:20pm

Sorting through and mounting these today and found a bunch of pre-cancelled ones, so decided to make up a page just for them (thanks Clive/album easy).
Wondering if previous or even later issues had pre-cancels, anyone know?
Yes I know some of us fall into the category of nowt so weird as folks!
Edit. To add apparently they were not issued after 1934, according to the pre cancel society.
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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
21 Aug 2024
04:52:37pm

re: Pre cancel Postage dues

The first couple series had lots of silent precancels including the famous NY string of pearls. I have a couple douzen precancels as we know them and as you have here. Most of them are from this set but I also have a few from the 1917 - 1925 set, one from the 1931 - 1932 set and several from the 1959 set even though the only ones of those I have are from Guam and Puerto Rico. So maybe the only ones done after 1934 were used in the protectorates. I'm just guessing though!

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21 Aug 2024
06:55:12pm

re: Pre cancel Postage dues

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There are the mute precancels called ring of pearls from New York. Here is an older post that covered that subject: https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ...

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21 Aug 2024
07:32:31pm

re: Pre cancel Postage dues

I still don't understand the need to precancel a postage due.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
21 Aug 2024
09:12:05pm

re: Pre cancel Postage dues

Ernie, I've often wondered that as well!!

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Philately starts where the catalogue ends. - ANONYMOUS
22 Aug 2024
06:28:50am

re: Pre cancel Postage dues

I have many, many examples of precancels on the 1959 postage due series. They are mostly contract precancel devices, rather than locals, which seems to suggest this was done with the blessing of the postal service since these types of devices had to be acquired through a requisition to PO headquarters in Washington. The earlier postage dues have a lot more local precancel types that were produced by contract with a local supplier. The reason for this is that a lot of them were the result of experimentation in devising labor saving methodologies.

The main reason for precanceling the postage dues was to save time so the postmaster didn't need to cancel large quantities of these at the time of use. Remember that Postage Due stamps were also used to provide a receipt for payment of bulk mailings in addition to the traditional usage of showing additional postage was due. This could add up to rather large amounts of postage paid, so they would apply large multiples of these postage due stamps to the receipts (usually precanceled in some manner.)

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