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15 Aug 2024
04:21:38am
My stamp club meetings all follow the same pattern. One person stand at the front and holds forth, while the members sit on rows of chairs and listen, more or less politely. A stand frame allows display of loads of album pages, and there's a coffee break when members can mill about and take a close look at the pages.

How could things be arranged to encourage more informal chat? Some people have prize winning and expensive exhibits, but I suspect several, like me, have much more modest collections. From time to time newcomers appear and then disappear, but I have no idea what or how they collect. And names are a bit of a problem - maybe it would be better if we all wore big name badges, like at business conferences in my former life. But people don't usually like this.

It's all a bit depressing. How can we inject a bit of life into this?
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Al
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15 Aug 2024
06:09:21am
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There are online videos the club could watch and discuss.

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I have no idea how large your club is but rows of chairs are death to having meaningful conversation and interaction. Round tables seating 5 or 6 people at a table invite conversation (whether you want to participate or not) It is a much more comfortable setting and everyone can still hear well and moving around the room is easier. When our company was sold and we got a new CEO that was the first thing he did. That and invite the people who interact to get things done to the meetings and seek out their opinions on things rather than asking their bosses opinions. He did not "run" the meeting - he channeled it and encouraged people to move around and talk out the problems rather than resorting to memos. it changed the entire workplace. Things that used to be discussed for months just happened in days or weeks. Some ideas failed and that was not a problem, just fix it. All the yelling and hollering and threatening disappeared. It was genius.

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15 Aug 2024
08:36:47am
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The first club I joined had a built-in social time. We would start with the business meeeting (15-20 minutes) then have half an hour or so to mull around, drink provided soda and eat provided cookies while we chatted and browed the items up for auction. There was also a post auction social time as the secretary totalled up lots for each successful bidder and one by one people went up to pay their lots while most others socialized.

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Al
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15 Aug 2024
09:11:25am
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Here is an ATA video. APS has some resources and you could check their website and contact them. Given many APS staff are at GASS, it may take some time to get a response.

https://youtu.be/f8Sz6jApPX8?si=Vfzahq9u ...

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15 Aug 2024
09:35:21am
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Give everyone a numbered ticket and do a drawing for a small prize. Doesn't even have to be stamp related. People LOVE winning ANYTHING.

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15 Aug 2024
12:25:45pm
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I belong to the local stamp club here in Guayaquil,Ecuador.They meet every Saturday from 10am to 1pm.
Almost every member only collects stamps from Ecuador and shows little interest in other areas.I have suggested that once a month a member shows some of their collection but this idea got a very lukewarm response.One of my interests is cinderellas and I try to show some of my collection.Again,little interest and one older member told me these are not stamps and dont,belong in a stamp collection !!
Meetings are usually a chance for members to chat and discuss almost every topic,especially politics.There is also a Whatsapp chat group where all non-stamp related chat is banned.Members just go to the weekly meetings for this now.....
I don,t visit as much as before,now probably once every month.
They do have monthly auctions and sometimes I find interesting items.
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14 Sep 2024
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I belong To a local stamp club here in South Australia,Salisbury Philatelic Society .We meet on the second and fourth Monday of every month , There around 50/60 active members ,we have circuit books ,an auction ,raffle and a display every meeting,usually all the raffle prizes are donated by members so there could be anything fruit,veggies ,eggs,books sometimes even stamps !!!Twice a year we have a monster auction which has 600/700 lots next one is in October,so if your in our neck of the woods drop by.
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15 Sep 2024
02:52:00pm
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At our local stamp Club meeting, before the philatelic auction consisting of material members put up for sale ( for themselves, or to donate the funds to the Club), we have a show and tell period, where members can show off and share information about some of their collection material.
We manage the topics in alphabetical order, one letter at a time, (so with 2 meetings per month, we run through the full alphabet annually).
Each presenter has a few minutes to describe what they brought along (my favorite part of the "show and tell"), they can answer questions, others members can contribute their knowledge on the topic, and then they pass the material around for members to look at.
We have typically about 20 active members with a wide range of collection interests, and the shown material can vary from just an interesting cover or stamps, a few collection pages.... all the way to a full collection. This makes for an interesting discussion period, and the passed along material can be seen at leisure, while the auction proceeds. We are lucky to have several advance collectors with superb material and unusual interests.
There will typically be around 5 presenters at every meeting, and it takes just a few minutes, to select from one's collection and prepare material to present.

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15 Sep 2024
07:11:44pm
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I love that idea. We've got to "jazz up" our meetings some and this is a great idea.

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16 Sep 2024
02:29:15pm
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Our next Club meeting (tonight) features the letter E, which gives me a chance to show off my Egypt collection. As I was preparing the material I planned to show and discuss, I came across a puzzling stamp variation for Egypt #1, and posted a query in the discussion board below (under Middle East) for anyone with expertise or an opinion.
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17 Sep 2024
06:33:25am
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Thanks for this. Our club has about 20 max attending, and a topic for each meeting. The last meeting was last week - emboldened by your posts, I ignored the topic, which was postcards - don't have any! I said I didn't want to come empty-handed to the party, so I took along one of my albums - engraved stamps of Austria and USA , and spoke about the work of two Austrian engravers - Lorber and Schirnbeck.. I put the album on a table and during the coffee break several members took a look, leafing through the pages. I'm hoping the show and tell approach works on the rest of the members, like it works with small children.

Next meeting is an alphabetic theme - G - I. I'll take along my Iceland album and treat them to a brief review of the collection so far.

I'm hoping that eventually more people will take an active part in the meetings - at present it's usually only 3 or 4.

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17 Sep 2024
08:47:06am
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We alternate between business/show and tell/buy and sell on second and auctions (just auctions) on fourth Thursdays. 8-12 on second; 12-18 on fourth, or thereabout. We invite members to bring lots and sell club consigned and donated lots via auction.

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17 Sep 2024
04:35:10pm
re: Stamp club meetings g

Our Club auctions (held at the end of our club meeting) often include material donated to the Club, that help fund our annual Holidays dinner at year end.
I have noticed that people have been increasing the donated material, as they are freed from trying to price and sell unwanted stuff, We all have lots and lots of stuff, that we will never look at again, and that someone else may find useful.
This includes album pages, binders, books, supplies, stamp accumulations, old (picked) collections on pages, covers, etc..
A box of around 5000 stamps has been doing it rounds lately. Members buy it, pick through it, throw some more material in, and place it back on the auction block, with proceeds always going to the Club. It is fun, has good stuff as well as common material...depends what you collect and don't collect, and each person is different. Remember, one's junk can be another's treasure. And your unwanted accumulation of say country X, can be a treasure for someone else. We have a member who picks stamps just for cancelations and periodically revisits the box, as new material is always added, and most of us who don't specialize in cancelations would never know how precious they may be to someone else.

Here is another idea. We pick up surplus Stamp catalogs from Library surplus (Public Libraries renew their reference catalogs periodically, (some times annually) and they usually have a redistribution protocol for unwanted old books, that favors non-profits and local clubs). Members can then easily buy catalogs from the Club for their own reference books at home, for very little money. (note that reselling commercially is prohibited).
Most of our collectors just need the older years and the structure and category numbers rather than the relative value assigned (who knows how?), so having a catalog at home for a few dollars is a real bargain. You could once buy chunks of pages from Scott catalogs on ebay, but this is no longer the case I think. In the past, the Club owned a set of catalogs that members could borrow, but it is logistically difficult and these books are heavy to lug around. Now they can own the volumes of interest to them.

rrr...

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17 Sep 2024
04:58:21pm
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Strider: re

"Next meeting is an alphabetic theme - G - I. I'll take along my Iceland album and treat them to a brief review of the collection so far."



Our next meeting is letter F, but my album collection for France, (an obvious choice) would be overwhelming so I will focus on some unusual aspects of my France collection...such as - precancelled 1893 France seldom seen...here is a link to an older post on the topic: https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ... , or for that matter all of France precanceled stamps (Y &T has its own category for it)), or France Liberation (locally or Post office issues of 1944) stamps with o/p, an area I am just beginning to collect and find fascinating.

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17 Sep 2024
05:51:51pm
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Our club meets are on a Saturday 1-3pm, monthly from October to May. Most get there a little early to help set up tables, auction items, displays. 4 chairs to a table and usually three members will sit and chat. Attendance around 15-20 most times.
Meeting starts with acceptance of last meeting minutes, then onto agenda for the day, various reports and new/future business.
A few members will do show and tell on various items and often a video on an aspect of philately or a power point presentation from one of us.
Usually an auction of items either donated to or purchased by the club, sometimes proceeds are split between sellers and club, but not always. Items that did not sell at the Winnipeg club will also be auctioned on occasion.
We have not set a theme as such for the members items, it's just what gets brought along.
For our October meeting I've been asked to talk about Stamporama and will take folks through the various parts of our wonderful site. I also have a power point presentation ready on the Hong Kong Machins for another meeting.
On occasion we hold a silent auction which relies on donated items, mostly stamp related but has included cookies and stained glass ornaments, proceeds to the club.

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15 Aug 2024
04:21:38am

My stamp club meetings all follow the same pattern. One person stand at the front and holds forth, while the members sit on rows of chairs and listen, more or less politely. A stand frame allows display of loads of album pages, and there's a coffee break when members can mill about and take a close look at the pages.

How could things be arranged to encourage more informal chat? Some people have prize winning and expensive exhibits, but I suspect several, like me, have much more modest collections. From time to time newcomers appear and then disappear, but I have no idea what or how they collect. And names are a bit of a problem - maybe it would be better if we all wore big name badges, like at business conferences in my former life. But people don't usually like this.

It's all a bit depressing. How can we inject a bit of life into this?

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Al
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15 Aug 2024
06:09:21am

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There are online videos the club could watch and discuss.

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15 Aug 2024
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re: Stamp club meetings g

I have no idea how large your club is but rows of chairs are death to having meaningful conversation and interaction. Round tables seating 5 or 6 people at a table invite conversation (whether you want to participate or not) It is a much more comfortable setting and everyone can still hear well and moving around the room is easier. When our company was sold and we got a new CEO that was the first thing he did. That and invite the people who interact to get things done to the meetings and seek out their opinions on things rather than asking their bosses opinions. He did not "run" the meeting - he channeled it and encouraged people to move around and talk out the problems rather than resorting to memos. it changed the entire workplace. Things that used to be discussed for months just happened in days or weeks. Some ideas failed and that was not a problem, just fix it. All the yelling and hollering and threatening disappeared. It was genius.

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15 Aug 2024
08:36:47am

re: Stamp club meetings g

The first club I joined had a built-in social time. We would start with the business meeeting (15-20 minutes) then have half an hour or so to mull around, drink provided soda and eat provided cookies while we chatted and browed the items up for auction. There was also a post auction social time as the secretary totalled up lots for each successful bidder and one by one people went up to pay their lots while most others socialized.

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15 Aug 2024
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Here is an ATA video. APS has some resources and you could check their website and contact them. Given many APS staff are at GASS, it may take some time to get a response.

https://youtu.be/f8Sz6jApPX8?si=Vfzahq9u ...

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Give everyone a numbered ticket and do a drawing for a small prize. Doesn't even have to be stamp related. People LOVE winning ANYTHING.

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15 Aug 2024
12:25:45pm

re: Stamp club meetings g

I belong to the local stamp club here in Guayaquil,Ecuador.They meet every Saturday from 10am to 1pm.
Almost every member only collects stamps from Ecuador and shows little interest in other areas.I have suggested that once a month a member shows some of their collection but this idea got a very lukewarm response.One of my interests is cinderellas and I try to show some of my collection.Again,little interest and one older member told me these are not stamps and dont,belong in a stamp collection !!
Meetings are usually a chance for members to chat and discuss almost every topic,especially politics.There is also a Whatsapp chat group where all non-stamp related chat is banned.Members just go to the weekly meetings for this now.....
I don,t visit as much as before,now probably once every month.
They do have monthly auctions and sometimes I find interesting items.
Anglobob

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14 Sep 2024
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re: Stamp club meetings g

I belong To a local stamp club here in South Australia,Salisbury Philatelic Society .We meet on the second and fourth Monday of every month , There around 50/60 active members ,we have circuit books ,an auction ,raffle and a display every meeting,usually all the raffle prizes are donated by members so there could be anything fruit,veggies ,eggs,books sometimes even stamps !!!Twice a year we have a monster auction which has 600/700 lots next one is in October,so if your in our neck of the woods drop by.
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re: Stamp club meetings g

At our local stamp Club meeting, before the philatelic auction consisting of material members put up for sale ( for themselves, or to donate the funds to the Club), we have a show and tell period, where members can show off and share information about some of their collection material.
We manage the topics in alphabetical order, one letter at a time, (so with 2 meetings per month, we run through the full alphabet annually).
Each presenter has a few minutes to describe what they brought along (my favorite part of the "show and tell"), they can answer questions, others members can contribute their knowledge on the topic, and then they pass the material around for members to look at.
We have typically about 20 active members with a wide range of collection interests, and the shown material can vary from just an interesting cover or stamps, a few collection pages.... all the way to a full collection. This makes for an interesting discussion period, and the passed along material can be seen at leisure, while the auction proceeds. We are lucky to have several advance collectors with superb material and unusual interests.
There will typically be around 5 presenters at every meeting, and it takes just a few minutes, to select from one's collection and prepare material to present.

rrr...

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I love that idea. We've got to "jazz up" our meetings some and this is a great idea.

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Our next Club meeting (tonight) features the letter E, which gives me a chance to show off my Egypt collection. As I was preparing the material I planned to show and discuss, I came across a puzzling stamp variation for Egypt #1, and posted a query in the discussion board below (under Middle East) for anyone with expertise or an opinion.
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17 Sep 2024
06:33:25am

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Thanks for this. Our club has about 20 max attending, and a topic for each meeting. The last meeting was last week - emboldened by your posts, I ignored the topic, which was postcards - don't have any! I said I didn't want to come empty-handed to the party, so I took along one of my albums - engraved stamps of Austria and USA , and spoke about the work of two Austrian engravers - Lorber and Schirnbeck.. I put the album on a table and during the coffee break several members took a look, leafing through the pages. I'm hoping the show and tell approach works on the rest of the members, like it works with small children.

Next meeting is an alphabetic theme - G - I. I'll take along my Iceland album and treat them to a brief review of the collection so far.

I'm hoping that eventually more people will take an active part in the meetings - at present it's usually only 3 or 4.

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re: Stamp club meetings g

We alternate between business/show and tell/buy and sell on second and auctions (just auctions) on fourth Thursdays. 8-12 on second; 12-18 on fourth, or thereabout. We invite members to bring lots and sell club consigned and donated lots via auction.

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re: Stamp club meetings g

Our Club auctions (held at the end of our club meeting) often include material donated to the Club, that help fund our annual Holidays dinner at year end.
I have noticed that people have been increasing the donated material, as they are freed from trying to price and sell unwanted stuff, We all have lots and lots of stuff, that we will never look at again, and that someone else may find useful.
This includes album pages, binders, books, supplies, stamp accumulations, old (picked) collections on pages, covers, etc..
A box of around 5000 stamps has been doing it rounds lately. Members buy it, pick through it, throw some more material in, and place it back on the auction block, with proceeds always going to the Club. It is fun, has good stuff as well as common material...depends what you collect and don't collect, and each person is different. Remember, one's junk can be another's treasure. And your unwanted accumulation of say country X, can be a treasure for someone else. We have a member who picks stamps just for cancelations and periodically revisits the box, as new material is always added, and most of us who don't specialize in cancelations would never know how precious they may be to someone else.

Here is another idea. We pick up surplus Stamp catalogs from Library surplus (Public Libraries renew their reference catalogs periodically, (some times annually) and they usually have a redistribution protocol for unwanted old books, that favors non-profits and local clubs). Members can then easily buy catalogs from the Club for their own reference books at home, for very little money. (note that reselling commercially is prohibited).
Most of our collectors just need the older years and the structure and category numbers rather than the relative value assigned (who knows how?), so having a catalog at home for a few dollars is a real bargain. You could once buy chunks of pages from Scott catalogs on ebay, but this is no longer the case I think. In the past, the Club owned a set of catalogs that members could borrow, but it is logistically difficult and these books are heavy to lug around. Now they can own the volumes of interest to them.

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Strider: re

"Next meeting is an alphabetic theme - G - I. I'll take along my Iceland album and treat them to a brief review of the collection so far."



Our next meeting is letter F, but my album collection for France, (an obvious choice) would be overwhelming so I will focus on some unusual aspects of my France collection...such as - precancelled 1893 France seldom seen...here is a link to an older post on the topic: https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ... , or for that matter all of France precanceled stamps (Y &T has its own category for it)), or France Liberation (locally or Post office issues of 1944) stamps with o/p, an area I am just beginning to collect and find fascinating.

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Our club meets are on a Saturday 1-3pm, monthly from October to May. Most get there a little early to help set up tables, auction items, displays. 4 chairs to a table and usually three members will sit and chat. Attendance around 15-20 most times.
Meeting starts with acceptance of last meeting minutes, then onto agenda for the day, various reports and new/future business.
A few members will do show and tell on various items and often a video on an aspect of philately or a power point presentation from one of us.
Usually an auction of items either donated to or purchased by the club, sometimes proceeds are split between sellers and club, but not always. Items that did not sell at the Winnipeg club will also be auctioned on occasion.
We have not set a theme as such for the members items, it's just what gets brought along.
For our October meeting I've been asked to talk about Stamporama and will take folks through the various parts of our wonderful site. I also have a power point presentation ready on the Hong Kong Machins for another meeting.
On occasion we hold a silent auction which relies on donated items, mostly stamp related but has included cookies and stained glass ornaments, proceeds to the club.

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