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I have a suggestion for them to list C T Os as just that stamps that were never intended to be used as postage, but were printed to fill stamp albums.
Some countries print stamps and they are just for resale to fill blank pages in albums, they should have a listing in a special section for each country that issues C T Os.
What do you think?
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The commercial value of CTOs is so insignificant that most experienced collectors ignore them most of the time, so they have no need for a catalogue. If collectors aren’t spending big bucks on CTOs, dealers are going to mostly ignore them too. Considering the flood of postally legitimate stamps that are issued, we should just feel pleased that publishers are still publishing and updating catalogues. And, of course, catalogues do list CTOs, in the sense that they note, in cases where stamps are available as CTOs and as useable stamps, that the value of CTOs is a given fraction of the value of the “legitimate” stamps.
I have collected many CTOs, usually in cases where I can only afford the CTO version of some stamps, or CTOs are the only stamps available. The early stamps of North Vietnam and many Russian stamps are cases in point.
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05:37:25pm
"in cases where stamps are available as CTOs and as useable stamps, that the value of CTOs is a given fraction of the value of the “legitimate” stamps."
Or, as is the case with Scott for Eastern European stamps, the catalogue note indicates that prices are for CTO and that "postally used copies are worth more". (if you can find anybody who will actually pay more).
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Are not most first day covers in reality CTO covers?
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I collect both Russia and Poland with cutoffs of 1985. In the last half of the collection there are many CTO's. I have replaced about half of them with mint since you rarely see an actual used stamp. The collection's value is mainly in the first half of each collection and the BOB. Also there are many fakes in the early overprints. Unfortunately a lot of the collections of these two countries consists of very attractive album fillers of negligible value.
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Sometimes the CTO's are the only stamps in circulation from a given country.
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Before Australia started including fake postmarks in the printing process. CTO stamps were issued as part of Specimen sets. With full gum, these are collectable and in demand.
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Another one in demand - have the stamp, now to try to find the reference again
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"Are not most first day covers in reality CTO covers?"
sorta, yes, and often no.
FDCs needn't be handbacks or their equivalents; many have gone through the mails, purposely.
That a FDC can be used postally makes it a different animal from a CTO, which is purposefully demonetized and impotent.
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I wonder why some countries fabricate CTOs as many do not have a postal system to actually use them.
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"I wonder why some countries fabricate CTOs as many do not have a postal system to actually use them."
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I have a suggestion for the people that publish stamp catalogs, you have categories like Mint, used, issues, an errors.
I have a suggestion for them to list C T Os as just that stamps that were never intended to be used as postage, but were printed to fill stamp albums.
Some countries print stamps and they are just for resale to fill blank pages in albums, they should have a listing in a special section for each country that issues C T Os.
What do you think?
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re: C T Os
The commercial value of CTOs is so insignificant that most experienced collectors ignore them most of the time, so they have no need for a catalogue. If collectors aren’t spending big bucks on CTOs, dealers are going to mostly ignore them too. Considering the flood of postally legitimate stamps that are issued, we should just feel pleased that publishers are still publishing and updating catalogues. And, of course, catalogues do list CTOs, in the sense that they note, in cases where stamps are available as CTOs and as useable stamps, that the value of CTOs is a given fraction of the value of the “legitimate” stamps.
I have collected many CTOs, usually in cases where I can only afford the CTO version of some stamps, or CTOs are the only stamps available. The early stamps of North Vietnam and many Russian stamps are cases in point.
Bob
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"in cases where stamps are available as CTOs and as useable stamps, that the value of CTOs is a given fraction of the value of the “legitimate” stamps."
Or, as is the case with Scott for Eastern European stamps, the catalogue note indicates that prices are for CTO and that "postally used copies are worth more". (if you can find anybody who will actually pay more).
Roy
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Are not most first day covers in reality CTO covers?
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I collect both Russia and Poland with cutoffs of 1985. In the last half of the collection there are many CTO's. I have replaced about half of them with mint since you rarely see an actual used stamp. The collection's value is mainly in the first half of each collection and the BOB. Also there are many fakes in the early overprints. Unfortunately a lot of the collections of these two countries consists of very attractive album fillers of negligible value.
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Sometimes the CTO's are the only stamps in circulation from a given country.
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Before Australia started including fake postmarks in the printing process. CTO stamps were issued as part of Specimen sets. With full gum, these are collectable and in demand.
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Another one in demand - have the stamp, now to try to find the reference again
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"Are not most first day covers in reality CTO covers?"
sorta, yes, and often no.
FDCs needn't be handbacks or their equivalents; many have gone through the mails, purposely.
That a FDC can be used postally makes it a different animal from a CTO, which is purposefully demonetized and impotent.
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I wonder why some countries fabricate CTOs as many do not have a postal system to actually use them.
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"I wonder why some countries fabricate CTOs as many do not have a postal system to actually use them."
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