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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

 

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14 Jun 2024
12:56:28pm
Leading the upcoming sale at New York’s Robert A. Siegel Auction Galleries is a 1-cent “Z-grill” stamp from 1868, a rarity in postage collecting that is expected to become the most valuable American stamp when it fetches between $4 million and $5 million. It will likely surpass the current U.S. stamp record established at Siegel Auctions in November with the $2 million sale of an Inverted Jenny, although the global stamp record remains at $9.5 million after the 2014 sale of a 1-cent magenta stamp from British Guiana.


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14 Jun 2024
06:21:56pm
re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

I remember when Bill Gross had that super rare/valuable Swiss stamp in his vault.

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15 Jun 2024
12:45:58am
re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

I listened to the top 100 items part of the auction online which was an interesting experience. The keynote item the Z grill with auction fees surpassed the $4 million dollar mark. Another stamp, also, sold for over $2 million dollars! Total for the auction was just over $15 million. I saw at least one item go for over three times its current catalog value.

On Saturday, the second part of the auction will be held. I have submitted bids for six items in which I have an interest where I am currently the high bidder but based on the prices that items have been reaching I don't really expect to win the items. If I do, I will fill several desired coil pair spaces in my collection and have to buy my wife several new furniture items and a gas grill as penance. Happy

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15 Jun 2024
06:29:54am
re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

Jerrel,

Best of luck on your bids!
Winning even one item from this auction would seemingly require one to bid far beyond current catalog value.

And hopefully, your wife will be appeased with your offer!

Happy Happy Happy

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15 Jun 2024
08:34:02am
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We can only hope.Big Grin

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15 Jun 2024
10:44:45am
re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

"And hopefully, your wife will be appeased with your offer!"


I was very lucky in that my wife was as much of a fanatical collector as I was/am!! No permission was ever need to add to our many collections. Both of us would much rather buy a stamp or a piece of glass or china than splurge on a luxury item like an item of clothing!
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15 Jun 2024
01:57:21pm
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Jerrell, that's exciting! Best of Luck with your bids. Everytlme I see your name I think of Superman's father. Haha

I would MUCH rather have the inverted Jenny rather than the Z grill.

I read that Mr. Gross decided to figure out how to make money investing in stamps after his mother bought a lot of stamps hoping that they would appreciate only to sell them for a loss down the road.

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15 Jun 2024
05:44:02pm
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Unfortunately my success rate was about what I expected, nada. I will see if I make any progress outside of the US during Robert Siegel's Evergreen sale next week.

I would agree that the invert would be the more interesting stamp over the Z grill. I would, also, say that the only certified US 164 has a less than attractive appearance. My personal unsatisfied search goals for most difficult to acquire would be the Syria 106c and Basel Canton 3L1 from Switzerland with the latter actually providing more apparently available copies for sale. There is an absolutely stunning copy in the Robert Siegel Auction's Evergreen sale next week that is a true non-hinged copy from 1845 which must be one of the rarest possible stamps in that condition.

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15 Jun 2024
05:51:14pm
re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

"I would, also, say that the only certified US 164 has a less than attractive appearance."


Funny thing, my US Liberty Stamp Album has a gap there!! So I guess that's one reason why I don't have it!! The other reason, I guess, would be it's Scott's 2016 price tag of $357 500!!

"I would agree that the invert would be the more interesting stamp over the Z grill."


Either would be nice, but I think I would prefer the Z grill. After all Homer Simpson passed up the invert!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6adZ7jQF ...
Also, as odd as it sounds, my album has a place for it!!!
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14 Jun 2024
12:56:28pm

Leading the upcoming sale at New York’s Robert A. Siegel Auction Galleries is a 1-cent “Z-grill” stamp from 1868, a rarity in postage collecting that is expected to become the most valuable American stamp when it fetches between $4 million and $5 million. It will likely surpass the current U.S. stamp record established at Siegel Auctions in November with the $2 million sale of an Inverted Jenny, although the global stamp record remains at $9.5 million after the 2014 sale of a 1-cent magenta stamp from British Guiana.


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14 Jun 2024
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re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

I remember when Bill Gross had that super rare/valuable Swiss stamp in his vault.

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15 Jun 2024
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re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

I listened to the top 100 items part of the auction online which was an interesting experience. The keynote item the Z grill with auction fees surpassed the $4 million dollar mark. Another stamp, also, sold for over $2 million dollars! Total for the auction was just over $15 million. I saw at least one item go for over three times its current catalog value.

On Saturday, the second part of the auction will be held. I have submitted bids for six items in which I have an interest where I am currently the high bidder but based on the prices that items have been reaching I don't really expect to win the items. If I do, I will fill several desired coil pair spaces in my collection and have to buy my wife several new furniture items and a gas grill as penance. Happy

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15 Jun 2024
06:29:54am

re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

Jerrel,

Best of luck on your bids!
Winning even one item from this auction would seemingly require one to bid far beyond current catalog value.

And hopefully, your wife will be appeased with your offer!

Happy Happy Happy

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15 Jun 2024
08:34:02am

re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

We can only hope.Big Grin

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15 Jun 2024
10:44:45am

re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

"And hopefully, your wife will be appeased with your offer!"


I was very lucky in that my wife was as much of a fanatical collector as I was/am!! No permission was ever need to add to our many collections. Both of us would much rather buy a stamp or a piece of glass or china than splurge on a luxury item like an item of clothing!
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15 Jun 2024
01:57:21pm

re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

Jerrell, that's exciting! Best of Luck with your bids. Everytlme I see your name I think of Superman's father. Haha

I would MUCH rather have the inverted Jenny rather than the Z grill.

I read that Mr. Gross decided to figure out how to make money investing in stamps after his mother bought a lot of stamps hoping that they would appreciate only to sell them for a loss down the road.

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15 Jun 2024
05:44:02pm

re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

Unfortunately my success rate was about what I expected, nada. I will see if I make any progress outside of the US during Robert Siegel's Evergreen sale next week.

I would agree that the invert would be the more interesting stamp over the Z grill. I would, also, say that the only certified US 164 has a less than attractive appearance. My personal unsatisfied search goals for most difficult to acquire would be the Syria 106c and Basel Canton 3L1 from Switzerland with the latter actually providing more apparently available copies for sale. There is an absolutely stunning copy in the Robert Siegel Auction's Evergreen sale next week that is a true non-hinged copy from 1845 which must be one of the rarest possible stamps in that condition.

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15 Jun 2024
05:51:14pm

re: Bill Gross to action US 1¢ Z grill of 1868

"I would, also, say that the only certified US 164 has a less than attractive appearance."


Funny thing, my US Liberty Stamp Album has a gap there!! So I guess that's one reason why I don't have it!! The other reason, I guess, would be it's Scott's 2016 price tag of $357 500!!

"I would agree that the invert would be the more interesting stamp over the Z grill."


Either would be nice, but I think I would prefer the Z grill. After all Homer Simpson passed up the invert!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6adZ7jQF ...
Also, as odd as it sounds, my album has a place for it!!!
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