This article from Stamp Smarter is very good as well. I seems that the best way to do this is to measure the thickness of the stamp with a good set of micrometer calipers. Can anyone recommend what I should buy? There also seems to be colour differences and also wet printings seem to be more prone to offset marks on the back. I definitely need to do some research. Can anyone tell me a sure fire way to tell?
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/Manuf_ ...
EDIT: If measuring the paper thickness is foolproof please recommend a good set of calipers. There are many on Amazon and most are reasonably priced!
Does anyone depend on the "flick test". I've spent some time flicking stamps and they all seem the same to me!! Maybe I just don't know how to flick!
I, also, seem to be "flick" impaired.
I find it pretty easy to differentiate by a frame width measurement.
I agree with bigcreekdad. I have a caliper that will measure the paper thickness to the desired level. However, measuring the width of the stamp design is much easier for me. The wet printings shrunk a bit in the horizontal direction, making the dry printed stamps about 0.5mm wider than their wet counterparts. The difference is very small, so some magnification to amplify the difference might be needed. Here is a sample:
Thanks to everyone for the information. I really understand the differences now! I think I'll order a got set of calipers soon and use that. The size difference is a real help as well as the difference in appearance of the stamps. The "flick test" really doesn't work for me!!
I never did understand all that measurement and colo and thickness stuff. I did, however, figure it out after handling several thousand of them. It becomes pretty apparent after a while, just by the “feel” and look of them. I know that’s not very helpful, but experience handling them is the truest way.
Allen
". I did, however, figure it out after handling several thousand of them. "
I’ve used the flick test on US Large Banknote issues but haven’t heard about using it for other issues.
I’ll say it’s not very scientific, I have other ways to identify the Large Banknote issues.
Stampsmarter. Org discuss other ways to identify these issues along with the flick test.
I just reread your earlier post about Stampsmarter.
Unitrade is quite helpful on Canadian stamps.
If you are going to measure paper thickness, you will need an fairly accurate device to see the small differences. The device that works very well for me is the SPI Dial Thickness Gauge, model number 13-151-6. I checked on the web and found a company named GoVets in Melbourne Beach, Florida that has a few on sale for US$65.00.
Thanks Terry, I'll definitely check into it!
I was trying to figure this out and ran into this older SoR thread that seems to be quite helpful!
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ...
re: Dry vs Wet printing
This article from Stamp Smarter is very good as well. I seems that the best way to do this is to measure the thickness of the stamp with a good set of micrometer calipers. Can anyone recommend what I should buy? There also seems to be colour differences and also wet printings seem to be more prone to offset marks on the back. I definitely need to do some research. Can anyone tell me a sure fire way to tell?
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/Manuf_ ...
EDIT: If measuring the paper thickness is foolproof please recommend a good set of calipers. There are many on Amazon and most are reasonably priced!
re: Dry vs Wet printing
Does anyone depend on the "flick test". I've spent some time flicking stamps and they all seem the same to me!! Maybe I just don't know how to flick!
re: Dry vs Wet printing
I, also, seem to be "flick" impaired.
re: Dry vs Wet printing
I find it pretty easy to differentiate by a frame width measurement.
re: Dry vs Wet printing
I agree with bigcreekdad. I have a caliper that will measure the paper thickness to the desired level. However, measuring the width of the stamp design is much easier for me. The wet printings shrunk a bit in the horizontal direction, making the dry printed stamps about 0.5mm wider than their wet counterparts. The difference is very small, so some magnification to amplify the difference might be needed. Here is a sample:
re: Dry vs Wet printing
Thanks to everyone for the information. I really understand the differences now! I think I'll order a got set of calipers soon and use that. The size difference is a real help as well as the difference in appearance of the stamps. The "flick test" really doesn't work for me!!
re: Dry vs Wet printing
I never did understand all that measurement and colo and thickness stuff. I did, however, figure it out after handling several thousand of them. It becomes pretty apparent after a while, just by the “feel” and look of them. I know that’s not very helpful, but experience handling them is the truest way.
Allen
re: Dry vs Wet printing
". I did, however, figure it out after handling several thousand of them. "
re: Dry vs Wet printing
I’ve used the flick test on US Large Banknote issues but haven’t heard about using it for other issues.
I’ll say it’s not very scientific, I have other ways to identify the Large Banknote issues.
Stampsmarter. Org discuss other ways to identify these issues along with the flick test.
I just reread your earlier post about Stampsmarter.
re: Dry vs Wet printing
Unitrade is quite helpful on Canadian stamps.
re: Dry vs Wet printing
If you are going to measure paper thickness, you will need an fairly accurate device to see the small differences. The device that works very well for me is the SPI Dial Thickness Gauge, model number 13-151-6. I checked on the web and found a company named GoVets in Melbourne Beach, Florida that has a few on sale for US$65.00.
re: Dry vs Wet printing
Thanks Terry, I'll definitely check into it!