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General Philatelic/Identify This? : I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

 

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abstractist

10 May 2024
05:03:07pm
Image Not FoundI got a box lot at an auction, and it in were some sheets of American stamps that have been roller cancelled, they still are fully gummed.

Was this a way that Post Offices would void out stamps that were not selling?

If so how did someone take them out of the Post Office?

Are they collectable?

What kind of price would these sell for?

I have around 20 sheets.

With 5 different stamps on the sheets.Image Not Found

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10 May 2024
06:37:29pm

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re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

Seems to me like they are CTO stamps, if they are, they are not worthless but the value should be very low.

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10 May 2024
07:08:48pm
re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

They may have been to pay for postage paid for return envelopes that some companies use to get you to reply to their ads.



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abstractist

11 May 2024
11:05:44am
re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

In my limited experience, I have never seen any C T O stamps from the U S A the ones I have seen are usually from countries that print millions of stamps that are not going to be used for postage, but are printed as page fillers for collectors.
And they usually cancel in a corner top, bottom, left or right and this would cancel 4 stamps at one time.

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11 May 2024
12:08:15pm
re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

DStamper is likely correct: payment for add'l postage on either reply mail or bulk or other partially pre-paid pre-cancelled (or service-inscribed) mail


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11 May 2024
12:14:25pm
re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

I have a couple sheets of US postage due stamps done this way. Could they be used as postage or is there some other explanation?

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MikeL

11 May 2024
01:18:14pm
re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

Business Reply Mail was often paid by postage due stamps on Post Office Department Forms. Over time, other stamps issues were used.

The following thread on Stamp Community Family Forum discusses these usages.

https://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp ...

In my post in that thread, I cited one example of the regulations from the PL&R and Postal Bulletins.

There was no requirement that postage due stamps be used, and apparently from that thread, a post office clerk had the option to utilize surplus, out-of-date/obsolete stamp issues for that purpose. The only criteria was there needed to be some proof of payment made.

I have seen discussions in the past (but cannot recall where) that the postal patron had the ability to bring his own unused stamps to the post office and have those canceled as part of his payment. Perhaps someone else can provide a citation for that process.

Mike L

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11 May 2024
05:46:38pm
re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

Here is an earlier post that probably gives you the answer.
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12 May 2024
12:43:12am
re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

I have a few hundred different 18 cents to 29 cents sheets all are canceled at the same Post Office. Not sure if they were to pay for postage due. or a collector had them canceled. I got a collection of canceled singles with full gum he would get singles and have them canceled.
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abstractist

10 May 2024
05:03:07pm

Image Not FoundI got a box lot at an auction, and it in were some sheets of American stamps that have been roller cancelled, they still are fully gummed.

Was this a way that Post Offices would void out stamps that were not selling?

If so how did someone take them out of the Post Office?

Are they collectable?

What kind of price would these sell for?

I have around 20 sheets.

With 5 different stamps on the sheets.Image Not Found

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10 May 2024
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Seems to me like they are CTO stamps, if they are, they are not worthless but the value should be very low.

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10 May 2024
07:08:48pm

re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

They may have been to pay for postage paid for return envelopes that some companies use to get you to reply to their ads.



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abstractist

11 May 2024
11:05:44am

re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

In my limited experience, I have never seen any C T O stamps from the U S A the ones I have seen are usually from countries that print millions of stamps that are not going to be used for postage, but are printed as page fillers for collectors.
And they usually cancel in a corner top, bottom, left or right and this would cancel 4 stamps at one time.

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Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
11 May 2024
12:08:15pm

re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

DStamper is likely correct: payment for add'l postage on either reply mail or bulk or other partially pre-paid pre-cancelled (or service-inscribed) mail


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"Save the USPS, buy stamps; save the hobby, use commemoratives"

juicyheads.com/link. ...

This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
11 May 2024
12:14:25pm

re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

I have a couple sheets of US postage due stamps done this way. Could they be used as postage or is there some other explanation?

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"As anyone who has ever been around a cat for any length of time well knows cats have enormous patience with the limitations of the humankind."
MikeL

11 May 2024
01:18:14pm

re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

Business Reply Mail was often paid by postage due stamps on Post Office Department Forms. Over time, other stamps issues were used.

The following thread on Stamp Community Family Forum discusses these usages.

https://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp ...

In my post in that thread, I cited one example of the regulations from the PL&R and Postal Bulletins.

There was no requirement that postage due stamps be used, and apparently from that thread, a post office clerk had the option to utilize surplus, out-of-date/obsolete stamp issues for that purpose. The only criteria was there needed to be some proof of payment made.

I have seen discussions in the past (but cannot recall where) that the postal patron had the ability to bring his own unused stamps to the post office and have those canceled as part of his payment. Perhaps someone else can provide a citation for that process.

Mike L

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11 May 2024
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re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

Here is an earlier post that probably gives you the answer.
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_ma ...

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12 May 2024
12:43:12am

re: I am puzzled about these sheet stamps!

I have a few hundred different 18 cents to 29 cents sheets all are canceled at the same Post Office. Not sure if they were to pay for postage due. or a collector had them canceled. I got a collection of canceled singles with full gum he would get singles and have them canceled.
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