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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Question about fake overprints

 

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Harvey
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14 Jan 2024
09:56:30pm
Let's say that you bought an overprinted stamp where the overprint was almost definitely fake. Let's also say that you did not have the un-overprinted stamp. Would you be tempted to put the overprinted stamp in the space reserved for the stamp with no overprint. Or is the added overprint considered to be major damage? Just want a few opinions!! This is not a major country for me and I'm a bit looser about what I do.
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14 Jan 2024
10:04:48pm
re: Question about fake overprints

I would add it in as a nice curiosity.

My collection has one facsimile in it until I can find the copy I want, so a little flexibility is ok in my opinion!

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Greaden

14 Jan 2024
10:13:45pm
re: Question about fake overprints

Fake overprints go straight into my Hall of Shame binder along with various works of Fournier and worse.

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15 Jan 2024
07:55:44am
re: Question about fake overprints

Joe,

do as you like. I wouldn't have thought to put a fake overprint in the empty spot reserved for its unoverprinted brethren. But, why not? Or, why?


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15 Jan 2024
12:50:39pm

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re: Question about fake overprints

I mark the stamp on the back and then mount it in the empty spot in my album, with a notation: "counterfeit" just above it.
Often, these are rare and expensive stamps that I am not likely to acquire at a decent price, so why not.
I also set up a separate page with more common counterfeits, when I have several in a series (think of some of the French classic counterfeits by Fournier and others), next to the ones I have with the real stamp in the slot. This serves as comparison. There are good references for France and Colonies, and unfortunately lots of forgeries, some quite excellent, of the basic stamps as well as the overprint versions.
For some French stamps, I only have the forgeries which can be expensive, (Example: the 1893 Precancelled series Y&T #1-10A and 11-23A), and even those are hard to find.
I have more problems with counterfeits of o/p on stamps of most of the Middle East countries. There, by definition, I assume that every stamp without a certificate, or from a reputable source is a fake! (so not Ebay!)
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Rare but unfortunately Counterfeits of France Pre-Cancelled Y&T #1-23A
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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
14 Jan 2024
09:56:30pm

Let's say that you bought an overprinted stamp where the overprint was almost definitely fake. Let's also say that you did not have the un-overprinted stamp. Would you be tempted to put the overprinted stamp in the space reserved for the stamp with no overprint. Or is the added overprint considered to be major damage? Just want a few opinions!! This is not a major country for me and I'm a bit looser about what I do.

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DaveSheridan

14 Jan 2024
10:04:48pm

re: Question about fake overprints

I would add it in as a nice curiosity.

My collection has one facsimile in it until I can find the copy I want, so a little flexibility is ok in my opinion!

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Greaden

14 Jan 2024
10:13:45pm

re: Question about fake overprints

Fake overprints go straight into my Hall of Shame binder along with various works of Fournier and worse.

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Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
15 Jan 2024
07:55:44am

re: Question about fake overprints

Joe,

do as you like. I wouldn't have thought to put a fake overprint in the empty spot reserved for its unoverprinted brethren. But, why not? Or, why?


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15 Jan 2024
12:50:39pm

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re: Question about fake overprints

I mark the stamp on the back and then mount it in the empty spot in my album, with a notation: "counterfeit" just above it.
Often, these are rare and expensive stamps that I am not likely to acquire at a decent price, so why not.
I also set up a separate page with more common counterfeits, when I have several in a series (think of some of the French classic counterfeits by Fournier and others), next to the ones I have with the real stamp in the slot. This serves as comparison. There are good references for France and Colonies, and unfortunately lots of forgeries, some quite excellent, of the basic stamps as well as the overprint versions.
For some French stamps, I only have the forgeries which can be expensive, (Example: the 1893 Precancelled series Y&T #1-10A and 11-23A), and even those are hard to find.
I have more problems with counterfeits of o/p on stamps of most of the Middle East countries. There, by definition, I assume that every stamp without a certificate, or from a reputable source is a fake! (so not Ebay!)
rrr...

Rare but unfortunately Counterfeits of France Pre-Cancelled Y&T #1-23A
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